Sunday, October 04, 2009

Pakistan is killing the Taliban and Afghanistan soldiers continue to kill their American helpers. WTF? Can't we get the message?

Pakistan plans key offensive against Taliban! What the hell is wrong with Afghanistan? Get the hell out America!
Pakistan Plans Key Offensive

US Officials Believe Pakistani Taliban Leader Dead Excellent! Baitullah Mehsud now Hakimullah Mehsud! Excellent Hakimullah didn't last long. What the hell is wrong with Afghanistan? Can't they see that it is obvious to the entire world that they are not fighting against the Taliban as they should be if they want to stay out from underneath stifling Sharia law? Do they not care how corrupt and inept they look?

Afghan soldier shoots dead two American troops Man WTF? They just returned from a joint operation with Afghanistan and the SOB shot the US soldiers dead wounding 2 others while they slept! Isn't it obvious? How many more have to die? Obama is looking at adding more US troops to this? WTF? Get the hell out America don't you get the message? Sharia law is proffered not Democracy!

I reiterate though it is a waste of time that like Afghanistan Pakistan is largely tribal but they want a central Government and freedom from the Taliban to continue to have their tribal customs and freedoms and are fighting for it! NATO go home! Scale back! Get out! We keep hearing how tough Afghani's are. Prove it! Pakistan has shown what they want and so has Afghanistan. Can't we take a friggen hint?
We keep hearing how we must get to Taliban moderates and Afghan moderates well get with it do it now and let them fight for their country. Moderate tribesmen in parts of militant-ravaged north-west Pakistan are challenging Taliban extremists threatening to overrun their area, in what will develop into a mass resistance movement.That is what Afghanistan must do!

America and NATO must get out! We have been there over 8 years, twice as long as WW2! If Afghanistan wanted freedom from the Taliban they would already be trained and fighting for it instead of just letting themselves be killed as pawns. Get rid of corrupt Karzai!

Why are the Afghan's not forming Lashkar's and killing the Taliban if they want their freedom from them? * Have a fair election, get rid of Karzai,Feed and supply Afghan's to fight if they want their freedom as Pakistan is and get out! That is the only answer not less or more troops.

Our soldiers did their job leave now with heads held high not our tails between our legs like in Saigon! Give food and supplies to the Afghans and if they want their freedom they will fight for it like the Pakistani tribes are. We should be helping Pakistan who has proved they want their freedom from Taliban and Sharia law. Don't add more troops this is Afghanistan graveyard of Nations. Cheat history get out now!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


One Fly said...

Then I see this morning eight more were killed. This madness is not going to stop Jim.

Middle Ditch said...

One Fly is right Jim. I can't see an end to it yet.

Demeur said...

As I've said this is a no win situation. And the word verify was subile how apperpo.

Dave Dubya said...

Sadly, it's about politics now. Obama will not stop the war until he is safely in his second term.

"Cut and Run" would be the GOP battle cry to take him down.

WeezieLou said...

while i've been a champion of "give obama a chance - look at what he inherited", i'm getting pretty pissed. yes, vital to focus on the rotting domestic economy, devastation caused b health care - but i've now kinda lost it with his and michelle's obsession with the olympics.

i generally read the NYTimes - the other day, i had the uxury of reading the print edition in depth. there was the usual column entitled (maybe 14' print) "names of the dead", lisitng 4 young men (total age of all 4 was 104) killed in Afghanistan. i looked through all the headlines in the front section - not a single one abt Afghan. or Iraq. talk abt WTF. i sent them a very professionally worded letter re: how they define "all the news that's fit to print". hmmmm.... haven't heard back...


Hi James,

Would just like to call your attention to reports we are getting where we sit, i.e., US/NATO troops fighting side by side with Afghan soldiers v Taliban...

Before that, just want to ask, how sure are we that it was indeed an Afghan soldier who shot dead two American troops?

On report I mentionned:

Fighting continued in the district on Sunday, though Nato forces remained in control of the outposts and a spokesman said the insurgents had "paid a heavy price".

Up to six Afghan soldiers and a policeman were killed, while 11 police officers, including the local chief and his deputy, were missing presumed captured.

The coalition blamed the attack on a "tribal militia", but it was immediately claimed by the Taliban, who said a council would decide the fate of 35 captives.

The assault was the deadliest since August 2008 when ten French paratroopers died in a battle near Surobi, east of Kabul.

Col Randy George, commander of US forces in the region, said: "This was a complex attack in a difficult area.

"Both the US and Afghan Soldiers fought bravely together.

"I am extremely proud of their professionalism and bravery." Steep mountain terrain, thick woodland and appalling roads have made Nuristan one of the most difficult provinces for international troops to patrol.

an average patriot said...

Tom it is not going to stop unless we get the hell out and let them fight but we friggen won't. They have us right where they want us and it pisses me off that we are going to feed them more of our youth!

an average patriot said...

Hi Monique! There will be no end unless we get the hell out! We are once again fighting for a corrupt Government. We will see to it that it will get much worse for us!

an average patriot said...

Demeur it just sickens me that they are too stupid to see that we can add a million and they have multiple millions of martyrs ready to get involved. This is their home turf. This is barely beginning as I have been saying for years now!

an average patriot said...

Dave you know I agree with you but Obama isn't going to see a second term. Anyway you look at it they are going to make this much worse than Vietnam trying not to repeat it. We are screwed!

an average patriot said...

Weezie glad to see you! I am pissed too! Everyone says he is over extended but he wouldn't be if someone tried to help him succeed instead of wanting to create his and our Waterloo!

an average patriot said...

Hi Anna
There were a couple posts hit at the same and a few incidents all at once. I will give you the link but this is the gist of the one I used.
An Afghan soldier on guard at a joint base with U.S. troops shot dead two American servicemen and wounded two others as they slept, a provincial official said on Saturday.

Shahedullah Shahed, spokesman for the governor of Wardak province west of Kabul, said the shooting took place after a combined team of Afghan and U.S. forces had returned from a joint operation late on Friday.

"The Americans were in the middle of sleep when an Afghan soldier on duty opened fire on them," Shahed said.

"We have no clue as to why he shot them."

A statement from NATO-led forces said two American soldiers died from injuries suffered in a "hostile attack" in eastern Afghanistan on Friday. A press officer for the Western troops said he could give no further details of the incident. (For more Reuters coverage of Afghanistan and Pakistan,

Larry said...

I don't see anything that has changed in this since King George was bombing everyone with oil.


Playing the devil's advocate here, James, but are we sure that the Al-Qaeda factions based in Afghanistan and fighting with the Talibans against the "moderates" and their Western allies, will stop within the Afghan-Pakistani borders if or when we leave?


US and British generals/commanders in Afghanistan think or believe that this "pacification" (let's call it that) operations in Afghanistan has a chance of succeeding if only there were sufficient troops deployed.

From a purely military viewpoint, I see their logic. You see in Northern Ireland, which is the size of Metropolitan Paris, there were 26,000 British troops deployed to fight a few hundred hardened Irish terrorists. So what could a few 10s of thousands of NATO troops do in a country the size of Afghanistan?

That said, we all know now that war is not the answer to insurgency, but war is and can only be the answer to terrorism.

Should we sit down with those terrorists and discuss peace with them? Problem is who precisely among the terrorists should we be dealing with. America tried doing this with the Talibans, it only got worse.

Very difficult problem indeed and not sure what the real answer is.

Incidentally, NATO military operations in Afghanistan are UN-mandated. As we speak, it is impossible for NATO to pull out without a go-signal from the UN. There is nothing they can do really officially.

an average patriot said...

Larry me friend nothing has changed and it will only get much worse as this all devolves!

an average patriot said...

Hi Anna I was thinking about you last night. I thought you were on a months hiatus or something? No they will not stop at the border. They have to be wiped out and that will not happen. There are a lot more of them than us!

an average patriot said...

Hi Anna! I know the UN is with us in wanting to succeed there but we could add a million troops and the extremists will dwarf that number with martyrs wanting us off their turf. Plus there are a lot more of them than us!


Hi James,

Yep, I'm surprised myself that I have got the time to blog. Actually, two things I heard on the radio and read in the papers got me really riled so I ranted. Presto, before I realised it, I was blogging from my car, parkings spaces, service stations, on the ferry, on Eurotunnel, etc. and wherever I could find a quiet spot.

My son actually gave me this wonderful gadget, a phone that could be hooked up to my laptop anywhere anytime that could capture the interned. So liberating -- ahem, I don't know if that's the right word.

Before, when I left home and work, I was cut off from the world because I didn't know how to use a comp which wasn't mine and never ever did like laptops until today. Hah! (Am still a techno ignoramus in many many ways.) Anyway, travel sked isn't as hectic as I thought it would be. So, here I am, even if only with posting snippets.


an average patriot said...

That's funny Anna! I am technologically challenged myself but I do find myself taking down notes and working on stories whenever I am listening to the radio which is whenever I am in the car. Ciao!