Thursday, July 23, 2009

Retired Colonel Peters says if Bergdahl deserted The Taliban should kill him! Kill all journalists, kill Gitmo prisoners! WTF?

Propaganda video of captured US soldier released by Taliban

Fox news pundit calls Bergdahl a deserter the Taliban should kill

Fox News Contributor Ralph Peters: Taliban Should Kill Captured US ...

Retired Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters an ex army intelligence officer I have yet to find any proof of combat duty is willing to condemn PFC Bergdahl for desertion. He said if Bergdahl betrayed his fellow soldiers by deserting while in Afghanistan that he would not mind if the Taliban killed him and save the US time and money. I know Peters is a Faux news pundit but I refuse to believe him or anyone there will condemn a fellow American to serve their Political purpose.

Bergdahl was captured June 30th under what is still unknown circumstances. Two US officials said Bergdahl appears to have just wandered off his post unarmed. I also heard he just wandered into Town to visit Afghani's he thought had befriended him. I also heard he was drunk and wandered off base to be picked up by the Taliban. Also that he was grabbed by civilians and turned over to the Taliban. I am stunned to hear betrayal and desertion even from a Faux pundit.

I mean come on. This is Afghanistan. We are perceived as the invaders the infidels the enemy unwanted in their country. I can not envision anyone being that naive, that anti American that stupid as to go A.W.O.L. in Afghanistan. We heard the horror stories over the years. These people are among the most feared ruthless combatants in the world. Walk into their hands? Come on! Wandering into the Sahara Desert naked would be preferential.

Bergdahl is an American an American soldier an adventurer by those who know him. I refuse to believe he is totally stupid! Faux pundit Peters has an obvious proven pension for murder.A couple months back I remember him advocating the murder off journalists by our military. Peters calls for military killing of Journalists

In the past he has also advocated killing all the prisoners in Gitmo. I do not have to remind you that many were known to be innocent. Peters also suggested we kill all prisoners in GITMO

Many people including me want to see Berdhal rescued first and then find out the truth. Despite the idiocy expressed by Faux news pundits Bergdahl has a lot of Americans very concerned. Capture of US Soldier, 23, Shakes Small Idaho Town

Even President Obama has expressed his deep concern. 'Heartbroken' President Obama vows to bring back captured US ... You want to wonder why we are fighting the idiocy at Faux but you know they are the enemies of average Americans and everything Obama and our America. I am very concerned about the hate fear and disinformation they are spreading throughout America as to our demise many are buying into it!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Holte Ender said...

Is that the sort of officers we have in have in the military? Is that the sort of man our men and women are taking orders from?
I am all for free speech, I even think Fox News has a right to exist, free speech has to be responsible and not a crutch for lack of thoughtfulness.

betmo said...

i have no facts in this case- but the media has a reputation of spreading false propaganda and if they are smearing an american soldier who has been captured- there is something deeper to this story. remember when we used to tie yellow ribbons for hostages? apparently, faux news wants to dip them in blood. if former military folks are coming out against a captive- my guess is- he should be dead and not captured. secret ops assignment? we'll never know the truth.

Demeur said...

My guess is that there was some type of screw up in communications. Anybody with a half a brain wouldn't go wondering off in a war zone without having a buddy along.
Remember that gal who's convoy took a wrong turn. They had her back in short order. Too bad Berdahl isn't a gal.

Jolly Roger said...

The Klanservative Nazis of FOX don't give a damn about our soldiers, as they've happily cheered them into Chimpy's meat grinders for 8 years now. There is nothing surprising about this at all.

an average patriot said...

Hi Holte
No he is not standard. He is exceptionally stupid callous and ignorant. That is why he found a home at fox. It sickens me because people follow that crap. I am very peeved that the likes of him Coulter Rove all of them have a refuge to speak their idiocy!

an average patriot said...

Hi B
There very well could be more to this but we should wait and see. I refuse to believe anyone would be stupid enough to desert in Afghanistan. His town is doing he yellow ribbons but that ASS has a lot of nerve saying he deserted and the Taliban should do us a favor and kill him!

an average patriot said...

Hi Demeur
Yeah I remember her. They played her up big time as a hero too and she later told the truth. I refuse to believe anyone would be stupid enough to desert in Afghanistan and think the Taliban wouldn't torture and kill him.

an average patriot said...

Hi Jolly
I thought even on Fox that was way over the top callous and unpatriotic let alone unamerican. Then I saw the other stories. That guy is frigged!

Sarah Sofia Ganborg said...

Hi James,
sorry for not having answered your mail yet... and I've also not been 'round the net much... been renovating and renovating and renovating...!

Anyway, have been looking at your posts here and there a bit... and without the time to comment, but the last three ones I would like to just briefly comment on: thanks for bringing the post on Rwana. You know, I have a scene in one of my fiction books where my proofreader just got completely shocked and said "You just can't write something like that!" Well that's where parents hold their kids down so they won't move why they are getting their hands chopped off... and that sort of thing really does happen in african warfair but of course nobody wants to see it! And those who try and do something about it aren't very successful.
seems to be some deeprooted corruption at the bottom of all that...

and then the health post... I realize you guys want and need soemthing... and the request is more than resonable, but I once again have to say: Is the thing that you are all longing for and willing to finance with such big resources really worth anything?
Sorry, but I just have a totally black point of view on health care. I hardly ever see doctors saving lives, but I see millions "health cared" to death - usually slowly enough so it looks like it was the desease which did it and not the treatment.

The post above: I watched the video and I must say I was quite shocked. what did they do to him, to crack him up like that? or was he already cracked up before and was wandering around the desert because he's lost his senses? What happened prior to that did he have a nervous breakdown or did they torture him until he cracked up enough so they could shoot that video?

I can't understand at all that Lt.Col. Peters, ret., would come up with the idea that the guy deserted. Based on what? some real intel? Or that video? Because the video does if anything, proof the opposite!

if I was in charge I would have intelligence take a very close look at it. Because it totally stinks! there's nothing genuine about it. something has made this guy crack up completely and then the "good guys-talibutt-fucks" came to his aid and gave him food and shelter... they all totally agree that the Americans should leave... how nice... but yet they're still holding him hostage... oh come on, that's just too rediculous! - And it reminds me all too much of the sick games the communists have been playing during the cold war. they also were always so f¤cking reasonable when they came to the aid of someone, not at all crushing human rights or disobeying international law...

if there is anything I hate it's covert hostility. And those F¤ckers are bloody covert, in spite of their open approache with the provokative video!

My advice: examine the video properly and do get the truth out of his comrades and check out what the genral mood is. What has happened that isn't mentioned? All relevant info is missing and the video make no sense at all.

Sarah Sofia Ganborg said...

Okay, back again! Have just checked out the good old Lt. Col., couldn't resist it.
Quite interesting.
The first thing that comes to mind is why is he so female? you know like an old grandmother... and why did he retire at all? What's that story? Did he chicken out because he thought he'd put his life on the line anough times and not gotten anything out of it except for ungratefulness and a war machine that doesn't work? is that why he wandered over to the other side - the journalists?
because he's right about what he says about them. And he's one of them!!!

But I also have to say, that he probably was a good combat leader who would have gotten the job done. that's just the attitude required and if you don't have that, you and your man won't live. So I do understand that part of his attitude.

And I also will admit that I don't go easy on traitors either... actually... as scary as he might seem to you all, this guy is nice compared to me!

BUT: he's still totally out of line judging Bergdahl like that, because he obviously does not have any reliable intel. He doesn't have any access to that information either or to whoever is working on that case.
So why does he open his mouth at all?
Simple: he was an easy-to-get-ahold-of "expert". Expert of what? Because he doesn't know anything... so all he can offer are his rather strong opinions... And in this case he might very well be more a traitor than Bergdahl himself.

It also amazes me how he can that quickly come to such baseless accusations! Has he never worked with intelligence at all? I mean he talks about training preparing you for captivity etc. ... but either he himself didn't have any of it or he has zero cognitive abilities...

Anybody watching the hostage-video knows that there is something awfully wrong with both the video and Bergdahl. Somebody or something has gotten to him and done a perfect job cracking him up from the inside.

- If it was an incident prior to him getting captured - then flunk to his superiors for neither spotting, nor handling it.

- If he cracked up under duress... well the enemie knows what he's doing! Makes me think they've got a shrink working with them. Can't see Bergdahl's pupils... wonder what they've given him and why he's sitting there like that, all red in the face and then the oh so compassioned tone of the arabic voice... that's brainwash-job well done!

Back to the Lt. Col.: I don't think that he's doing so well either, at least as far as his mental condition is concerned.
Take a look at him! Quite a pathetic picture. Misses the action and lost the confront for solving problems himself. So he just judges others instead. Well that's also a way of making time pass...!

Read the article you linked to, James, and I must say that I do think he has many valid points in what he's saying. The problem is just that he's mentally very stuck and therefore doesn't see the optimal solutions. That is sadly the case with many people. Even though many can agree on what is wrong... those with too clouded a vision do unfortunately far to often lead the genuinely blind - just because they have gotten themselves into a position where they can scream loud enough.

Starbuck said...

I'll be the first to say that anything could be true in the case of the missing US Soldier in Afghanistan. There have been rumors that he simply walked off the base with some Afghans.

Rumors are just that, rumors. Ralph Peters, a former intelligence officer, should not be relying on what we like to refer to as "RUMINT" (Rumor Intelligence).

While I'm not saying that it's impossible to walk off a base with the locals, it's not really plausible. No one saw him and stopped him? Asked for ID? Asked for paperwork? A Soldier would NEVER be allowed to simply walk off a base on his own.

Again, I won't say that he couldn't have simply walked off, but it seems rather implausible without any hard facts to back it up.

an average patriot said...

You know Sarah! It is horrible but lopping off the kids hands was pretty bad but cutting off buttocks really got me. They do it with a smile too and are proud of it.
I don't think that ass LC ever saw action he is just a Repug ass foaming at the mouth!

an average patriot said...

Hi Sarah
I don't know what really happened to Bergdahl but calling him a deserter and saying the Taliban should kill him is asinine and typical right wing extremism.
The LC has a penchant to kill because he never had to. I wish they would put him out in the field.

an average patriot said...

Hi Starbuck
I guess Bergdhal could have walked off base but I refuse to believe anyone would be stupid enough to desert in Afghanistan!