Tuesday, May 10, 2011

Palestinian factions, in Cairo, sign unity accord agree common enemy is Israel who does not want a two State solution

Senior Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal: Palestinians' common enemy is Israel

Palestinian factions, in Cairo, sign unity accord

I watched the video and Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad Al Maliki said Palestine would give Israel until September to come to an agreement and then they will go to the UN for recognition and recognition of the 1967 border between Israel and Palestine. That will never happen because the US will stop it. We are to blame as much as Israel that there is not and will not be a two state solution. Palestine wants to also share Jerusalem and Israel never will, they think it is all their's, end of discussion. Netanyahu does not want peace and Israel will never stop building settlements.

Israel in their eyes are the only ones that matter and they do not want our 2 State solution period:

I wrote about it numerous times, to hell with Israel they are the problem. Netanyahu does not want peace until he gets everything he wants which includes all of Jerusalem. We have to take care of our own and let them hang themselves. Ahmadinejad was right in one thing when he said years ago that is Europe and the US felt so bad for what happened to the Jews in ww2 they should have given them part of their country. We would have no problem then.

The movement to rightly recognize Palestine has continued to grow as Bolivia became the third country and Ecuador the fourth to recognize a state of Palestine."Bolivia and Ecuador recognizes the Palestinian state on the 1967 borders, like Brazil and Argentina," the Palestinian Ma'an news agency reported Bolivian president Evo Morales as saying during a visit to Brazil.Uruguay as expected followed suit! All this despite efforts by Israel, Israeli groups, and the US despite their feigned efforts to form a two State union.

I reiterate, Palestinian's have bent backwards: Lack of a peace solution to the Israeli crisis we created keeps being blamed on the Palestinians and I for one am quite sick of it! remember this? Israel could lease Palestinian lands in exchange for Palestinian statehood: report I am thinking this can be done after all my apprehension. With Palestine rebuffing Iran, Iran would be the one left out in the cold.

Palestinian refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state shows they are not serious about two-state solution. What about Israel's refusal to go back to 1967 borders where they should be? to stop building settlements? or to let Palestine have a homeland free of Jews if they want? What about UN resolution 181 established in 1947? That should be made binding and without a vote by Israel.

remember this? PLO wants map from US with future Israeli border Can you blame them? No bargaining make Israel adhere to UN resolution 181, no alternative! It is more than fair and equitable.

The only thing to do is to force the instigating war mongers Israel to adhere to 181 or leave them to their own demise and Iran would see to it. You know, first reading how Israel and Palestine was allotted their territories in 1948 I do not condone that Israel has not been forced to adhere to that resolution. We, the US Britain and Europe especially are as guilty as Israel for not insisting Israel adhere to UN Resolution 181

"In the eyes of Palestinians, the occupation began in '48 and not in '67," Ya'alon told Army Radio. "Not only Hamas thinks this – Abu Mazen [Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas does too." I think that too! I refuse to believe we took it upon ourselves to displace the Palestinians and give their land to the Jews in 1948 because we felt bad for them.

I hate to say it but I agree with Ahmadinejad that if Europe and the US felt so bad about what happened to Jews during WW2 then they should have given them part of their country. If they did we would not be in this situation. There will never be peace in the middle east unless there is an agreement to go back to UN Resolution 181 that was established in 1947.

We should in fact take care of Jewish American's and American's and our interests in Israel and otherwise tell them in no uncertain terms they are on their own if they continue to instigate war not peace and expecting us to come to their rescue. I love the way this is gaining momentum and I finally believe there is a chance for a two State solution but not peace in the Middle East. * The ball is in Israel's court not the world court where it should be!

Palestinians for their part are doing their share for peace but it is futile: They are willing to let Israel control the wailing wall and just want East Jerusalem as their capital but there is no way in hell Israel is going to give that up as they swear it belongs to them. It does not belong to them. They do not want peace unless they get everything they want and they will not. This will only end in war and we will be dragged in. That is why Bush ignored Afghanistan to get into the Middle East. Right from the get go helping Israel against Iran was the goal.

Again I reiterate there will never be peace in the Middle East, period! Israel wants it her way and Iran/Syria want Israel obliterated, period, seems like peace is in Palestinian hands and depends on how much they are willing to bend because Israel will not. Israel and Iran have long been in preparation for this confrontation. As you know, when asked by a journalist how he felt upon returning to Iran in 1979 after 15 years in exile. Khomeini’s curt, one-word reply was “nothing” Whoa! From day one of his return to Iran Khomeini expressed no love for Iran only a love of the atom bomb. The drive even then was to possess a nuclear weapon though that desire is still denied until Iran can get their hands on one.

On the other side there is Israel who will give nothing and expects Palestinians to give up everything! I realized a long time ago that Israel is the world's chief war monger and we seem to do their bidding and fighting. If they get into a war with Iran we will end up coming to their rescue regardless of what they do or what Hillary says and that is sad! We should in fact take care of Jewish American's and American's and our interests in Israel and otherwise tell them in no uncertain terms they are on their own if they continue to instigate war not peace and expecting us to come to their rescue.

* The ball is in Israel's court and I do not like what they are doing with it as they want to hold the ball till they get their way. Well the heck with them, we have given enough!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Demeur said...

Politically we've always had a laissez faire attitude with Israel. On the surface always pushing for a two state approach but there seems to be too much underlying political and economic support for things to change. What congressman running would want to say anything ill of Israel for fear of loosing the Jewish vote?

Ranch Chimp said...

Thank You for all this info and the link's here Jim ... this has been a confusing issue to me, and I havent even kept up on any of it for a few year's. I had very mixed feeling's here, because I dont know who is doing what. On one hand year's ago when Arafat was around and they were complaining how Israel was treating them, I felt sympathy for Palestine (Palestinian's), then when all that border bombing was going on with Hamas a couple year's ago and American's were bitching about Israeli attack's, I flipped and figured ... yeah ... Israel should pound their ass, I know if missile's were ending up in my backyard I would retalite and in probably very unpopular way. I dont know who is slowing this progress, but I will take your word since you know much more about this than I do, I'm frankly confused, yet on the other hand, I know how the US and Israel can be. I mean ... WTF is the problemo? Why cant these folk's just make goddamn two state's and get this shit over with was my issue. And also ... if Iran were to bomb Israel ... I feel a responsibility since we set up this bloody state to begin with to bomb Iran, not this conventional battle crap either, I dont want to spare the live's of our troop's ... that's what we have missile defense system's for ... but just the whole bloody thing is a mess Jim, it's like forced integration, taking two completely different culture's and forcing them to live together ... YES ... I am one that believe's in segregation ... Hell ... we havent evolved to the point yet where we know how to get along, at least much of the world. I have a neighbor that moved here 5 year's ago from Jerusalem ... cool guy ... early 30's, is a mechanic across the street (auto) make's decent money, etc He love's Israel, but told me there is alot of problem's over there vwith this, I heard of how military and search check point's are everywheres, such as just shopping at the mall, etc He had kin here in Dallas, and got a start here. Of course being a music fan too ... I love the Israeli inde/ underground scene too, really a cool country as far as western competitiveness ... I just dont feel those folk's belong there, and as you said ... if they wish to mlive side by side, some will have to "give". And simply a couple leader's shaking hand's in front of camera's cant change the people's heart's in many cases.

Thanx Guy ....

an average patriot said...

I know Demeur. I guess I am an odd bird but if saying and doing the right thing means you do not get reelected then fine. At least your conscience is clear. We are as guilty than Israel if not more so because we created that mess. We should have given them the Baja peninsula. That would have negated the current problem, helped Mexico big time and also the US.

an average patriot said...

RC there will never be peace in the Middle East period because everyone wants it their way period. Iran wants Israel gone from the earth and Israel will never share Jerusalem as far as they are concerned it is all theirs period.

You know, what I said about Israel and the Baja Peninsula came from a good friend of mine who happens to be Jewish but wants the right thing done period. I use that word too much.

Anyway Danny's father Jerome has been in the forefront on every single Democratic accomplishment since WW2. He is 93 now and has not written the last couple weeks or been on the lecture circuit as he is a little under the weather.