Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Obama's stance on Pakistan should make you realize what you don't want to hear and no one talks about!

In light of my line of conversation in how this so called war on terror is going to plat out I think it is important to discuss what Barack Obama said today on the subject. He mentioned something that will be a necessity but does not realize the dire repercussions. I don't know what you think of Obama's stance on fighting terrorism or whether or not it will help or hurt him but let's give this a parsing and then discuss reality. Politicians do not and will not ever see it and it is soon to hit us all.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists even without local permission if warranted in an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.
. I am listening to his speech being analyzed saying he is brave enough to come forward and say and do something Bush has refused too. I don't have to tell you I am no friend of little Bushie's but I am in the unenviable position of defending just this one little thing.
Knowing how volatile the situation is in Pakistan I am convinced that Bush will attack them if he deems necessary or as he said himself, will go into Pakistan to get terrorists if he knows where they are. I don't know how convicted he is to this and I happen to think they are everywhere but yesterday I discussed the ramifications of funding Saudi Arabia and others to do Bush's ground war against Iran and Syria.
He will now be free to go after Pakistan and Iran from the Gulf with our carrier and battle Groups while others will be doing the brunt of the fighting and ground combat. Everything is almost prepared. Bush is prepared in the Gulf and we have a seasoned fleet Admiral in command of middle east forces set to lead events while others expend their efforts on Iran.
Anyway this is called brave talk for Obama and I hate to say it but it is right on target but again, no one mentions the repercussions of doing this. The Illinois Senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid. I don't have to tell you but this may play good politically but there is no way you could clear out those radical Madrasas and the towns of radicals let alone the fiercely independent mountainous areas. Ask the many who have tried and failed as we would.
"Let me make this clear," Obama said in a speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."
I have always thought that was a mistake. Knowing hard line Bush I will never understand that unless there was someone there they wanted kept alive? I can also understand attacking from a drone but to threaten an Invasion? Obama's speech comes the week after his rivalry with New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton erupted into a public fight over their diplomatic intentions. Again I don't have to tell you these Political spats are just that and just to say something because it is Politically favorable plays well but though I in the end cannot see it being avoided but all hell will erupt.
Thousands of Taliban fighters are based in Pakistan's vast and jagged mountains where they can pass into Afghanistan, train for suicide operations and find refuge from local tribesmen. Intelligence experts warn that al-Qaida could be rebuilding here to mount another attack on the United States and you know they are. Invading Pakistan though will bring to a head this war of all wars for sure.
Obama said that as commander in chief he would remove troops from Iraq and putting them "on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan." He said he would send at least two more brigades to Afghanistan and increase nonmilitary aid to the country by $1 billion. Obama says he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists
I of course agree with that but a million more men over there would do the same thing they would do to bring victory in Iraq, nothing! Politician's and so called experts for some reason do not want you to know or they are too stupid to realize it themselves but this so called war on terror is still just getting started and the Political games must stop if we are to succeed in this endeavor.
Bush has certainly worsened our situation as he endeavors for his new world "dis"order but fighting "insurgents" in Iraq, "Taliban" in Afghanistan, "Al Qaeda" in the U.S, "Islamists" in Pakistan, like it or not will continue to spread and this so called war on terror will be ongoing for generations and despite Partisan rhetoric over Iraq we will be followed home anyway. As you know, I am convinced we will be in Pakistan too. I don't see any way around it and a lot more as this war against Islam that isn't continues to grow. The Politicians and so called experts do not have a clue as to how much of a long haul this in fact will be.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Larry said...

The thing is, when Bush attacks Pakistan, it will not be to get Bin Laden as Obama would.

It will be as you say to further his reach of power into Iran, Turkey, Syria and Saudi Arabia.

Bush wants to control the world. Obama wants to get Bin Laden to protect America.

There is a big difference.

pissed off patricia said...

I like larry's idea and hope to goodness he's right.

an average patriot said...

Hi Larry
You are right but the reason does not matter because the result will be the same.

an average patriot said...

Hi! Of course Larry is right but that is not the issue. We will be fighting in many countries whether we want to or not. This is still just starting.
Pakistani's and all Muslim's will not care why we go in there just that we did. They will repel us any way you look at it and this total mess will really get going.