Sunday, August 12, 2007

Bush encouraged about Afghanistan, Musharraf fears talibanization, Bush dead wrong, neither have a clue what they're facing!

It is really hard listening to the so called leaders discuss how to fight and win this war on rising Islamism that is still just beginning knowing they do not have a clue as to what is happening, how to win this, and how this is going to be won. Bush has proven many times that he will not wake up for many reasons so for America we have to continue to try to get all average Americans to understand what we are really up against and that little Bush is winning nothing and does not have a clue.
This is still just getting started. Bush gave an upbeat view of Iraq but acknowledged the country's slow political progress. In stating his case, the president emphasized enemy deaths. He has to stop playing cheerleader for once in his life. You can kill a million of them and it will not matter. That is a moot point. There is no shortage of volunteers in large part because Bush is the best recruiting tool the so called terrirists have.
Overall, Bush said al Qaeda and other extremists are under withering attack. "Since January," he said, "each month we have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500 al Qaeda terrorists and other enemies of Iraq's elected government." I am sick of hearing this Political rhetoric. This war against so called terrorism is still just beginning and besides being the poster child for Islamist recruitment his attack on Iraq and its destabilizing effect in the middle east is also just beginning. With the failing infrastructure in Iraq and basic human needs unable to be met and they will not be by us, we are winning nothing but the hearts and minds of mindless Bush fans.

On Afghanistan, Bush voiced confidence in Afghan President Hamid Karzai, with whom he met at the Camp David, Maryland, presidential retreat earlier in the week. Bush, echoing Karzai, said the resurgent Taliban are not a threat to the government of Afghanistan. "The Taliban fighters can still launch attacks on the innocent, but they cannot stop the march of democracy in Afghanistan," Bush said.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I remember talk of inviting the Taliban to participate in the Government because they were too hard to fight. Also amidst increased American casualties three of which occurred yesterday wasn't that the first day light frontal assault on an Allied outpost that occurred last week? Why does he continue to get away with lying and convenient ommisions of facts and the truth?
http://www.cnn.com/...
Anyway one person as usal is right but wrong about what they are facing and how to win. Musharaf was right in saying Military action and diplomacy are key in the fight against a rise in Taliban extremism currently plaguing Pakistan, But wrong to think that it or any combination there of will win anything. To extremists, getting rid of him would be a nice start.
He said Military action and diplomacy are key in the fight against a rise in Taliban extremism currently plaguing Pakistan, the country's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, said during a joint Afghan-Pakistani peace jirga in Kabul. The Pakistani leader, whose nearly eight-year rule is being challenged by opposition activists and Islamic militants, said he has witnessed "the rise of extremism, militancy and violence tearing at the fabric of our society." I guess no one will get him to see reality either unless he does and due to Bush must ignore it.
As you know, In recent days a crisis had been brewing in Pakistan, with the country teetering on the edge of a state of emergency amid the growing security threat in the country's lawless tribal regions. Musharraf thinks he can successfully combat this and like Bush blames it on a crisis had been brewing in Pakistan, with the country teetering on the edge of a state of emergency amid the growing security threat in the country's lawless tribal regions. Also what he calls a phenomenon of Talibanization and other forms of extremism, saying there are people that may be sympathetic to Taliban point of view and susceptible to extremism." http://www.cnn.com/...

Regardless of what karzai, Musharraf, Bush, or anyone else says they will success comat and turn nothing around certainly not extremists. Bush of course did not start this fervor of increased Islamist nationalism but his "perceived" militarism towards Islam has certainly fueled the fire beyond any control.
There are elements who want a Muslim State in Iraq thanks to Bush and other middle east States, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Spain's Basque region, and now Indonesia speaks up again. Nearly 90,000 followers of a hard-line Muslim group packed a stadium in the Indonesian capital Sunday, calling for the creation of an Islamic state and thunderously chanting "Allah is great!" The group that sponsored this rally is outlawed in Indonesia. Hizbut Tahrir, a Sunni organization with an estimated million members, is banned in some Asian and Arab countries, but drew supporters from Europe, Africa and the Middle East to Indonesia for a meeting of the group that is held every two years.Speeches called for the return of the caliphate, or Islamic statehood, across the Muslim world. The crowd, divided into sections for women and men, roared in support.
"We need to carry this message from every corner from the east to west, so that on judgment day we can be proud," said Salim Frederick of Hizbut Tahrir's English branch. That message is being increasingly heard and voiced around the world.
http://www.foxnews.com/...
This movement towards Islamist lone rule, recapturing all lands that were once theirs, and the drive for Islamic States is still in its infacy and will increase exponentially as time passes and the emotion spreads and it will. It will not be won Diplomaticlly, militarily or any other way. It will only be won by perseverence and attrition over a long, long, long, long, time.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

13 comments:

Anon-Paranoid said...

When the leader of a country is insane, like Adolph Hitler and many others were, and our leader is more mad than they were, you know where our country is headed.

I only pray that we don't destroy the World with Nuclear Weapons before someone, anyone stops Der Fuhrer Bush.

God Bless.

an average patriot said...

Hi anon
I have been watching your site but haven't seen you writing anything new. I appreciate you coming here. I want the discussion.
I think you know the intimate Bush Nazi relationship with Prescott. Bush is sadly going to ensure the same result as Hitler. I fully expect nukes to be used. Who initiates it is anyones guess.
Bush is stupid enough to though and whoever opens the nuclear pandora's box will be destroyed. Even sadder is that all this is happening at a time when the planet is already failing.

Larry said...

Jim:

Here is the result of Bush's "compassionate Conservatism"

1 in 4 U.S. jobs pay less than a poverty-level income.

During the 1980s, 13% of Americans age 40 to 50 spent at least one year below the poverty line; by the 1990s, 36% did.

Bush’s tax cuts (extended until 2010) save those earning between $20,000 and $30,000 an average of $10 a year, while those earning $1 million are saved $42,700.

Bush has proposed cutting housing programs for low-income people with disabilities by 50%.

83% of those earning $75,000 or more work for companies that offer insurance, versus 24% of those who earn less than $25,000.

2 in 5 elderly live on less than $18,000 a year, including Social Security benefits.

Since 1983, college tuition has risen 115%. The maximum Pell Grant for low- and moderate-income college students has risen only 19%.

Credit card late fees are 194% higher than in 1994.
And the item I found absolutely horrifying was this one:
Last fall, Minnesota firefighters let an elderly man’s mobile home burn down because he hadn’t paid a $25 “fire fee.”

enigma4ever said...

wow...Larry really nailed it...all of it...and now I am depressed...and wow...I guess I need to think of something postive that has come out of all of this....

oh, here it is...
Well....atleast through Blogs we have all found each other...so we don't have to commiserate alone anymore....

okay that was best I could do....

Larry said...

Bush has no interest in winning a war against Islam he only wants to cling to any drop of oil he can find.

Bush regards barrels of oil more than relations with other countries, or the needs of the people.

an average patriot said...

Very good Larry!
Sadly with homeless dumping by hospitals, prohibitive healthcare costs, food stamp use up 33% since Bush, suing limitations for average Americans, severe limitations to filing bankruptcy, again for average Americans not corporations, the deck is purposely stacked against average Americans as Bush purposely widens the gap between those who have and have not and denies it as he pursues his new societal order and it will get worse.

an average patriot said...

enigma
Sadly Larry is right but it is a lot worse. This was my response to hi in addition.
Sadly with homeless dumping by hospitals, prohibitive healthcare costs, food stamp use up 33% since Bush, suing limitations for average Americans, severe limitations to filing bankruptcy, again for average Americans not corporations, the deck is purposely stacked against average Americans as Bush purposely widens the gap between those who have and have not and denies it as he pursues his new societal order and it will get worse.
You are right too saying the only good thing to come out of this is that we have all found ourselves and that is what is going to get us through Bush's damage and into the future if possible.

an average patriot said...

Larry
You are right there too. Oil is only one reason as you know. His failed new world order leaving us as the worlds only super power is his end game.
The only countries he really cares about seems to be Israel and Britain. The three of us against the world seems to be the way this is going to end up.
He could care less about Islam or any other countries.

two crows said...

hey, AAP--
oh, yes, Bush is the best recruiting tool the terrorists have got.

that's one reason why I fear imminent attack _before_ Bush leaves office -- now that he has a document in his desk drawer giving him sole power to declare martial law and call off elections.

why should the Islamic extremists let him just leave office? hell -- the US might do something sane like get out of the Middle East and stop acting the dictator over there. and their recruitment drive could go right down the drain.

I wonder if that's what BushCo is counting on?

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an average patriot said...

Hey two crows!
Where did you here that about him having those documents in his draw? You know I 100% expect him to declare martial order and cancel elections.
Bush and the Islamists have a working relationship. They need each other to further their goals.
I believe they want us out of the middle east but despite Repubs saying the terrorists want Democrats in office I know they want Republicans in to further their cause.
I do like you say expect an attack contrived or allowed by Bush or not before the elections in time for Bush to cancel the elections and declare martial law. Again that would work for both of them. What a nightmare!

two crows said...

AAP--
I read it in Washington Post 2 or 3 weeks ago.
Bush signed a statement that if, PER THE PRESIDENT'S JUDGMENT there is imminent threat to the government, THE PRESIDENT may assume full power to 'assure the continuation of government' or words to that effect.
he quietly signed this little thing into existence a few weeks ago.

now, all they need is an attack or a PERCEIVED THREAT that they can sell us to declare martial law, dissolve Congress and the SCOTUS and do whatever the hell they want to.

an average patriot said...

two crows
That is very frightening as you know for a fact he will abuse and misuse any power he has. He will in fact cancel elections and declare martial order to keep his new societal, middle east, and world order, going. This mess of a future is still just getting underway. We have to stay together because this will not be good.