Saturday, August 18, 2007

Revolutionary Guard responds as expected, both sides have their excuse at furtherance as China and Russia threaten us!

As he threatens the Revolutionary Guard Could Bush Possibly expect anything else?

We have discussed many times that attacking Iran was only one of Bush's original goals when he used 9/11 and terrorism as his excuse to divert from the so called war on terror in Afghanistan to attack Iraq in order to get our military back in the middle east and that he would not leave Iraq and its Bush created civil war until he could find that excuse.
We also said that when all is said and done we would be facing Russia and China amongst others. It is all coming to fruition! Bush now has his excuse to go after Iran, we have Russia reasserting its presence in Syria with the reopening of a long closed naval Base and Russia and China are holding additional joint military exercises and tossing thinly veiled warnings to the US. This is all really beginning to ramp up and I do not see any way to avoid it as all sides think they can win their way militarily. The entire world will be the losers.
Recent events to this end: Last Wednesday we talked about the fact that Bush finally had his reason to do his half in further instigating a furtherance of the Iraq war that will be a middle east war before it encompasses the entire world.

The United States has named Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist group. The IRGC, with 200,000 soldiers, controls large parts of the Iranian economy and was believed to have assets in Europe. It is the first time the U.S. has put a foreign government's military agency on the list, which includes the Al Qaeda network and the militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah. The estimated 200,000-strong Revolutionary Guards is an elite force separate from Iran's regular military and has its own ground, naval and air units.
I saw this as a direct threat to Iran. Well of course the expected response is now given from a senior cleric and a Revolutionary Guard leader. IE: The U.S. move to blacklist Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist group will be a matter of pride for the organization said a senior Iranian cleric in the official weekly sermon on Friday. Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami who does not hold a government post but once a month delivers the official Friday prayer sermon, told thousands of worshippers at Tehran University in a speech broadcast on radio that the designation showed that the Guards were doing something right.
"I believe the U.S. decision for including the Guards in the list of terrorist organizations is an honor and a golden card in their file," he said. "Whenever your enemy is saying something bad about an organization, it shows that the organization has been effective," he added.,2933,293629,00.html

That tells me that the Revolutionary guard is a lot more involved in Iraq than is being admitted. Then the Guard is heard from giving the expected response.
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards said they would not bow to pressure and threatened to "punch" the U.S., in their first response to Washington's plan to list them as a terrorist organization, newspapers reported Saturday. Local press in the Iranian capital of Tehran quoted Revolutionary Guards leader Gen. Yahya Rahim Safavi saying that he could understand Washington's ire toward the group because of their "leverage" against the U.S.
"America will receive a heavier punch from the guards in the future," he was quoted as saying in the conservative daily Kayhan. "We will never remain silent in the face of U.S. pressure and we will use our leverage against them."

Those are the responses you would expect as both sides now have their excuse to further instigate an all out confrontation that will encompass the entire middle east and then the world. Many of us have said numerous times in our conversations that this entire mess is just getting started and before all is said and done we will also be facing at the least, Russia and China. Now they are threatening!
Both Moscow and Beijing share a heightening distrust of what they see as the United States' oversized role and influence in global politics, and the two former Cold War rivals have forged a "strategic partnership" aimed at counterbalancing Washington's policies. The Russian-Chinese war games, which took place near the Urals Mountain city of Chelyabinsk, coincided with Russian air force maneuvers involving 20 strategic bombers which ranged far over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans.
The group of strategic bombers, early warning aircraft, fighter jets and refueling planes represented the biggest show of Russian air power in that region since the early 1990s, said Brig. Gen. Ole Asak, chief of the Norwegian Joint Air Operations Center. NATO in recent years has expanded to include the former Soviet republics of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia as well as the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization SCO is a regional group dominated by Moscow and Beijing and are obviously on Iran's side. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose country has SCO observer status, attended the summit for the second consecutive year. On Thursday, Ahmadinejad echoed Russia's criticism of U.S. plans to deploy missile interceptors in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic, saying they were a threat to the entire region.

It is unbelievable to me to think that Bush does not realize that when all is said and done and the war in the middle east ramps up as Iran and the US go after each other, that Russia and China will step in to help Iran. Bush's drive for war and new middle east order will soon be WW3 and total disorder. Can anyone see this possibly being avoided?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


PoliShifter said...

The goal is deffinately to foment more violence in the Middle East.

Bush is dumping billions of dollars in weapons on the region. Hundreds of thousands of weapons are going missing.

Saudi Arabia is arming and funding the Sunnis and they are supposed to be our ally. At least, they are Bush and Cheney's ally.

Not sure what the end game is here but deffinately total war is what is being fomented.

Ahmadinejad is a nut job who wants to bring back the Mahdi.

Bush is a nut job who wants to bring back Christ and make billions of dollars doing it.

Doesn't bode well for the rest of us.

China is threatening to dump dollars, Iran is threatening to trade oil in Euros, and Russia is flying bombing missions agains.

It doesn't paint a pretty picture.

But if your goal is to steal wealth and grab power in chaos, Bush is doing a heckuva job.

He can now use spy statelites on Americans, physically search Americans, and seize their business records with no warrant or accountability.

Now that's power baby.

Anon-Paranoid said...

God told Der Fuhrer{Adolph}Bush to invade Iraq and He also told him to take our Iran.

When you have an Insane Madman at the helm of the ship the Iceberg is not too far away.

World War III is not very far away now. Start praying people.

God Bless.

an average patriot said...

Glad to hear a well thought comment. Bush has raised the funding to Israel to 31 billion. Saudi arabia and others 15 billion.
He is financing their breakdown while we have 3 carriers in the gulf to get Iran and Pakistan from the water.
Watch this idiot! Our troops and equipment haven't been kept in that Bush created Iraq fiasco for nothing.
That is why he diverted from the war on terror in the first place. He will not leave the middle east for nothing as you can see.
He wants his new middle east order and the islamists want theirs. Russia and China will come out against us but this will all end in total world disorder and no one will get their way.

an average patriot said...

You are entirely rigtht. Many people forget that. The idiot thinks he is doing Gods work and he told Bush to straighten out the middle east
What a damn idiot. With the Islamists on the other side doing Gods work all us regular people are screwed and caught in the middle,
Throw in Russia and China soon after Buish attacks Iran and his middle east breakdown will encompass the world. This nightmare is still just developing and will be longer and worse than they can imagine and it will not be quelled diplomaticly.

Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

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Larry said...


Bush is lounging on his broken down chicken ranch in Crawdad Texas as the economy completely falls apart, thousands more will be killed in Iraq, and to top it all off, China and Russia are conducting JOINT WAR MANEUVERS.

You're right. China and Russia will attack the U.S once Bush attacks Iran.

Larry said...

The Official George W. Bush
"Days Left In Office"

520 DAYS
1 Hrs 34 Min 14.0 Sec

Will we still be here when this day arrives?

Larry said...


Concerning your comment to me yesterday, which was in response to Enigma saying Lydia should have bloggers as guests on her radio show, I think it is a great idea as many bloggers such as Enigma and yourself, have a story to tell.

However Doug Basham runs and owns the show, he books the show and Lydia is his co-host when her schedule permits, so that will be up to Basham.

Lydia will have her own solo show later this year, and I can assure you that she Will feature bloggers on her new show.

Larry said...

"It is not by great acts but by small failures that freedom dies. . . . Justice and liberty die quietly, because men first learn to ignore injustice and then no longer recognize it."

Charles Morgan Jr.

an average patriot said...

What a pleasant surprise to turn on to. you guys must all be on the west coast or something because I turn my computer off around 8:pm eastern and I hear from you all some time during the night.
However, very good! I was just going to talk to enigma but wanted to address these first.

an average patriot said...

It really bothers me that that broken down chicken has been refurbished with the best of everything at our expense.
I refuse to believe we are paying for our own destruction. The chief idiot must be having a great chuckle.
Speaking of troops dying in Iraq while Bush is on vaca once Again, I heard this morning that the idiot might start a troop withdrawal next year only to appease those against hiis surge and keeping troops there indefinately.
I do not call sending troop evels almost back to pre surger levels by not sending them back for yet another deployment a withdrawal. The idiot will get away with that too though.
I mentioned it on Lydia's site but we just buried another woman in Ma killed in Iraq. What bothered me is it was her 5th tour.
Anyway China and Russia most definitely will come to the defense pf their friend Iran when Bush does get things ramped up. I havwe been saying it for years now but it is obvious at this point with Ahmadinejad attending their manuevers.
Many still stupidly say China will not do that and we will not endanger relations with China because of the Billions we owe them but guarantee they will.

an average patriot said...

That is 520 days too many and too much time for him to circumvent Congress and our laws and create a hell of a lot more damage and he will. He has sped up his so called new order as his time may be running out and I shudder to think what he can do in 520 days.
I heard this morning that Congress is upset that Bush wants to turn his new spying powers on us. How the hell could they expect anything but? I am sure he is doing it already. Give him a right and he will make it a wrong.
It is a given that he will abuse and misuse every power he gets his hand on. It blows me away that they just keep giving him more. I just do not get it!

an average patriot said...

Really glad to hear that about Lydia's new site. You too are in the know and on top of things bu8t maybe you are better off staying in the background.
I still have to ramp things up on my end and I talked further to one nephew and we will do this but I am waiting to hear back from him again. It seems he can set things up so that me him and another nephew can all manipulate and interact on my site but we will see.

an average patriot said...

That is right about the small failures and we just continue to have them and they are adding up to one great failure I am afraid.