Saturday, January 19, 2008

The CIA was complicit with Pakistan's ISI and let 9/11 occur do they really think we the Pakistani's believe their Lies of Al Qaeda killing Benazir?

I wanted to discuss Bush's new farce of Tax cuts. Under his proposal they will help the rich and businesses who do not need them and the poor who need them will get enough to heat their house for a month. I will guarantee you the chief idiot will get his way so Democrats do not look like they do not want to help the country. Knowing the underhanded beehive will get his way again I figured I would welcome any discussion on that subject but wanted to discuss the complicit CIA going to bat for Musharraf and Pakistan's ISI once again!

First some history! The complicity is well documented but as usual, denied! They can't really think they have any credibility?The 911 movie, press for truth has got to be the very best movie exposing the 9/11 cover up. Bush, Rice, Cheney, the FBI, CIA, everyone of them said over and over that there was no forewarning that terrorists were going to strike and that planes could be used as missiles to bring down buildings. They all lied about Pakistan's involvement. Why should we believe the CIA now? Especially in light of what they are continuing to do against us and for Bush. The movie documents factually that we heard in 1995 that planes may be used but never concerned ourselves about it. We received multiple warnings prior to 9/11 that terrorists were around, planes would be used, and the towers were coming down. Surprising to me was that prior to 9/11 one of the hijackers backed out and turned himself in, telling authorities what was going to happen. He was given 2 lie detector tests that he passed with ease. I don't recall who in the Administration said it. But they were told to let him go and send him back to London.

9/11 was allowed to happen for a reason! Once it did occur we attacked Afghanistan of course. As you remember, Bin laden and many of the leadership were trapped in Tora Bora. In the past I have said Bin Laden was allowed to escape so bush could use him to keep fervor up and Afghani's were credited with being responsible for his escape. We knew there were four ways out and only guarded three. We gave them a way out. The CIA and others knew this and let him escape to Pakistan, how are we supposed to believe them? Not only that but I vaguely remember hearing about a 1,000 car caravan but it was never mentioned that we were bombing the area around it but allowed the 1,000 car caravan carrying the Bin Laden entourage to escape into Pakistan and at night, come on. Now this part really irks me and I for one never heard anything about it and still don't. As far as I am concerned Pakistan is no friend of America's and will partner with India and turn on us when the time comes. We also heard over and over how Bush would track down any Al Qaeda finances and try anyone involved. He made a big deal out of the fact that someone outed the fact that we were checking out electronic transfers etc. Something he himself announced.

When I watched the movie and find out that the head of the Pakistani ISI transferred $100,000 to Muhammad Atta just prior to the 9/11 attacks. This gets worse. Primarily because not only do we have records of this financing as well as pictures but we ignored it and supposedly are in cahoots with them. What happened to anyone caught aiding, abetting, or financing terrorism being hunted down? To make it worse, the joke of a sideshow they called the 9/11 commission hearings was an obvious farce. Again I ask, how are we suppose to trust the FBI,CIA, and especially Bush's Government which is taking total control of us through lies and secret laws?

We knew Rice and others were lying and Bush and Cheney were allowed to hold hands and lie together (take that any way you want). I think I vaguely remember hearing this but like everything else it was dismissed as insignificant. Anyway, the guy who ran Bush's election campaign if I remember correctly, is the one running the commission hearings. He was the one who decided what was significant and what wasn't as well as what questions could be asked. What the hell is that. This entire thing was stacked against the truth and the facts getting out. It is our duty as Americans to hold these liars accountable. We owe it to the victims. We owe it to our children. We owe it to our history and we owe it to ourselves and this underhanded crap just continues! How? Why?

To reiterate, 9/11 was allowed to happen. As you may remember, Bush was looking for something to happen that would put the country and the world behind what he already had plans to do. 9/11 gave him that something.He had plans right from the beginning to establish a new societal, middle east, and world order. That is why it was important to him to whip up a media and public fury which of course, he has done. Bush and the CIA have been complicit with Pakistan from the beginning. They can't seriously think we or the Pakistani's believe them when they come to Musharrafs aid again?

As you know, I am convinced that the ISI and musharraf sympathizers murdered her. Amidst increasing violence that will not be quelled Pakistani forts are falling in the tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan. This is just the beginning and this breakdown too will not be averted then Bush will get us in deeper and over the lie called Al Qaeda. For some reason the CIA thinks they have credibility. They are complicit and as dirty as Bush and Musharraf. they stupidly think they can make Musharrafs lies believable, wrong!
Anyway what a surprise, the complicit CIA agrees with Musharrafs lies. The CIA believes extremists associated with a Pakistani tribal leader are responsible for the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, according to a U.S. intelligence official. The official, who spoke under condition of anonymity, said the agency concluded that Baitullah Mehsud -- the leader of the Pakistani Taliban who has ties to al Qaeda -- was behind the attack. The Pakistani government was quick to blame Mehsud's organization for Bhutto's death in December, producing an intercepted audio communication in which Mehsud confirmed his men were responsible for the attack. The U.S. intelligence community was first cautious about drawing the same conclusion as the Pakistanis. But after reviewing various other intelligence, the CIA agreed Mehsud played a role in Bhutto's killing, the U.S. official said.

* The CIA viewpoint was first made known in a Washington Post interview with CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden published Friday. "This was done by that network around Baitullah Mehsud. We have no reason to question that," Hayden told the newspaper. Mehsud operates out of the tribal areas of northwestern Pakistan. Pakistani officials have blamed Mehsud's forces for a number of attacks directed against the government, including one this week in which Islamic militants overran a military outpost in South Waziristan. U.S. officials and terrorism experts are increasingly worried about the stability of Pakistan. The Pakistani Taliban and al Qaeda have drawn closer ideologically over the past couple of years and see themselves at war with the Pakistani state, CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen said at a conference at a Washington think tank Wednesday. He pointed to the growing number of attacks against Pakistani government officials and the ISI, the country's intelligence service. CIA agrees with Musharraf
** what a surprise. There is no doubt that many Pakistani's in general want to kill Musharraf and his complicit ISI. That I am sure is true but I do not believe Al Qaeda killed Benazir Bhutto. How can you possibly believe these lying idiots? The CIA and Bush think they can stop Pakistan's breakdown? And by lying again? Forget it! This breakdown is just another step in all out war that I call Bush's new (dis)order Forever War and it will not be avoided because the truth being it is desired! Tell me what you think about this please!
James Joiner
Gardner Ma


Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Excellent Jim!

I am just so sick of the lies and coverups... I am ready for change!

Dave Dubya said...

If there's anyone left out there who still believes we are not being lied to all the time, would you please see me about a bridge I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

Seriously, even if we believe half the crap they dump on us, the pattern of what they've done is clear to see. Before Bush became president he even said the best way to get re-elected was to be a "war president".

He knew war was the means to power and went whole hog with it and made sure we had a permanent war. That sealed the deal for him and his crony fascists to profit from war from now on.

They are the worst criminals this country ever produced.

And yet I think I may be getting some offers for that bridge.

Brother Tim said...

I may be one of the few voices in the desert crying, but 9-11 was not ALLOWED to happen; it was orchestrated and carried out by BushCo. Thae facts are out there, as put forth by Dr Steven Jones and Ray Griffin, 9-11 Scholars for Truth. We were attacked by terrorists alright, but the terrorists were from within.

an average patriot said...

Hi Suzie
Glad to see you. Yes I am sick of it too but it will not stop and we can not stop fighting it.

I know the chief idiot has been purposely working tirelessly to undo FDR's entire legacy but it dawned on me this morning that if he really cared about helping our America he would not be giving the majority of the incentives to the wealthy and Businesses.
He would sink the money into an FDR new deal kind of program to rebuild our immensely failing infastructure and get all America and American's back to work and get us back in order. However...

an average patriot said...

I am afraid you will get offers for that bridge. Some people will never get it. I didn't know the idiot said that about war. He has certainly endeavored to create as much war as possible and it is all soon to blow. I am afraid just in time to keep the friggen jerk in office.
It peeves me that it is so obvious what he is doing and the beehive thinks he is slick and fooling us and the world!

an average patriot said...

I too believe it was orchestrated to the degree that Bushco enabled the so called terrorists to do what they did. He then had them and the Patriot Act as his excuse to take total control over us and implement his new world (dis)order Forever War.
I thought of something very interesting this morning after listening to Bloomberg and thinking about FDR and the new deal and Bush's efforts to destroy his lagacy. I think I will discuss that today before the Pats Game.

TomCat said...

At the very least, Bush knew the when, where and how of 911 well beforehand. How else could the Carlisle Group, in which both the Bush and bin Laden families are heavily invested, known to short sell, through a subsidiary bank, the two stocks hit hardest and walk away with $millions in profit from the deal?

an average patriot said...

I agree but I certainly didn't recall the carlisle group. The complicity and underhanded lies to follow what they think is a hidden agenda just kills me but it will not stop! Bush has yet to create his greatest damage.

Brother Tim said...

There are just too many 'coincidences' and unanswered questions regarding 9-11.

The most conspicuos ones to me are:

1. NEVER has a steel framed high-rise been brought down by an aircraft hit OR a fire. Not before 9-11, nor since.

2. The buildings fell onto their own footprints, a sign of controlled demolition.

3. WTC-7 also came down the same way, but with no aircraft hit. This building is seldom mentioned.

So, what do you think the odds are that 3 steel framed high-rises fell onto their own footprints, within hours of each other?

And there are hundreds of other anomalies that make this stink to the high heavens.

Add to all that, the expression on Bush's face as he was told about it while reading My Pet Goat. What that expression said to me was: "I can't believe they (Cheney et al) actually went through with it."

an average patriot said...

There are an awful lot of coincidences as in every underhanded castrophe or problem we have. It's a coincidence or misinterpretation is as you know is just a way of dismissing and escaping from the truth.
I was blown away when the towers came down but assumed it was because of all the jet fuel and its damage. Them falling into their own footpring I just thought was luck.
However, listening to what you said about the three buildings all going down so close together in their own footprint without significant damage to anything else is very suspicious.
However like everything else today you can bet the truth will never be known and if we already hit on it, it will merely be laughed at and called a conspiracy theory. That is the biggest conspiracy of all!