Friday, January 06, 2012

With large scale exercises in the Gulf between Israel and the US against Iran's IRG we have impending war

Israel and US to Stage Major Defense Drill: The Israeli military is gearing up together with U.S. forces for a major missile defense exercise, the Israeli military announced Thursday, as tension between Iran and the international community escalates.
The drill is called "Austere Challenge 12" and is designed to improve defense systems and cooperation between the U.S. and Israeli forces. It follows a 10-day Iranian naval exercise near the strategic Strait of Hormuz. Both Israeli and U.S. officials said the exercise would be the largest-ever joint drill by the two countries.

Iran plans new maneuvers in Hormuz Strait in February: Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi, naval commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, said the exercises in the Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz in February would be different from previous exercises, but gave no further details, according to remarks reported by the semi-official Fars news agency. "Today the Islamic Republic of Iran has full domination over the region and controls all movements within it," he said.

Helping Israel is the reason Bush attacked Iraq in order to unseat Saddam Hussein. In doing so he freed up Iran to instigate for her supremacy and version of new middle east "dis"order. The idea was to first help create a buffer zone of Israel friendly countries and then find a way to get into a war with Iran.If you think back and remember the numerous Border incidents on the Iraq Iran border and the incidents in the gulf between the IRG and the United States and Britain all failing to find a way to instigate the desired war.

There is another war coming: In attacking Iraq Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

Remember we just discussed again yesterday that Saudi Arabia has opened her air space to us so Iran could be attacked. Also we just okayed another shipment of advanced fighter jets. Also not just Israel, we have armed offensively and defensively every single middle east ally to the teeth.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

Israel lied to get nuclear weapons and will do anything to keep Iran from doing the same and challenging them. Remember Mordechai Vanunu whistle blower of Israel's clandestine nuclear program? Uzi Eilam former head of Israel's Atomic Energy Commission said Mordechai Vanunu did Israel a favor after revealing information about an illegal nuclear program at Israel's Dimona reactor. His information proved that Israel had broken the 1968 treaty on nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation. There is a US law that prohibits the support of countries that break the treaty in question.

I must admit Israel's hypocrisy and lies are a plan I have discussed often and I have to disagree with Eliam's final assertion. He says an attack on Iran's nuclear program would be counter productive. I beg to differ! The General hit the nail on the head though and does not know it. I have long asserted that Israel would attack Iran's nuclear interests and we would come to her rescue.Right now it seems as though we are going to do it in unison.

That is a fact that is why I find his final statement troubling and prophetic. He correctly said One strike is not practical. In order to delay the Iranian program for three to four years one needs an armada of aircraft, which only a super-power can provide. Only America can do it. Bingo! You know from numerous discussions here that Iran is involved in every Middle Eastern country not just Yemen, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia where they have corrupted elections for Shiite interests in Iraq, backing rebels in Yemen, and instigating attacks on Saudi oil fields. Bush freed Iran to instigate far and wide and they are.

Israel is not going to back down. The US is Israel's lap dog and when all is said and done they know the US will be there for them. I am sure the US plans to come to Israel's rescue and do it largely from the Gulf with numerous carrier fighter groups. When are we going to realize this entire mess I call a forever war is just beginning and this is our future. A future of war for us and profiteering for the elite. Israel will have their larger war.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Ranch Chimp said...

Thanx for the read Jim ... you got this stuff down like an art as far as wassup over in these region's. I was able to catch some yesterday on some other talk radio on a long drive to Houston (250 mi/ 4 hour's from Dallas), but it was all speculatory crap too ... who, what, why? etc ... bottom line Jim, I dont trust this shit or the majority of our representation either, and frankly now, I think this crap was all planned for awhile, just like the big showcasing of the Iraq troop withdrawal as a holiday treat of sort, whenever we get so called "treat's", were fixin to get screwed on something else, just my opinion though Guy, that's why I dont like asking for a damn thing. Right now it sound's like a bunch of "woof ticket's", but I suspect that someone's going to jump into something and excalate it. Like I said ... I dont know much about ths stuff, or all these game's that are played. No ... I dont ike having to shell out more money either on this, beside's, the Saudi's are filthy rich anywayz, let's see what they spend, eh?

My nephew who is sitting in my Christmas familia picture between my leg's (I'm Santa in it) in my holiday posting is off to Behjing (spelling?) to live next month (geeeezzz, what a change that will be from Dallas, where he was born and raised) and he had to get some visa crap down at the Chinese General Counsulate, which is in Houston here. He will also do some cultural sharing and martial art's instruction's, he had a job as a martial art's instructor here in Dallas. I talked to him back a few month's ago about it, and told him how tight of a country it is (he's mid 20's, his mom didnt want him to go though), you know, the commie stuff, but that's his choice, and he has this thing for Chinese culture and that. I'm sure China is nice, and a big town, big business, etc, but I dont know if I would want to live there ... but to each their own, he'll try it for a year or so.

Later Jim ....

an average patriot said...

I'm telling you, this is fucked up. Since we attacked Iraq to go after Iran both sides have been trying to instigate confrontation and war to no avail but it is coming soon.

I think it is the 2nd link that details that what is getting ready to happen in the Gulf happened in 1987. However it will be different this time. Not good!

I don't know what I think about your nephew going to Chine because of the pollution not to speak of the police state democracy driven communist state. Good luck to him!

Demeur said...

I don't quite see it that way Jim. I think we have had our fill of war here. You'll note that we didn't go into Libya.

As for the China trip I think your nephew is in for a bit of a surprise. They may be under a communist government but it's now a market economy. Just how that works is a bit of a puzzlement to me. I'm sure the Chinese don't wish to be perceived as some iron fisted society like the old Soviet Union. They do after all have one of the largest growing middle classes in the world now.

Ranch Chimp said...

BTW Jim, I couldnt get into the first link about Israel and US drill ... it wont take me, said I need another address or something to get in, this is my address though. This happened to me before on other site's to at time's.

an average patriot said...

Something is going to happen with all of us there and holding so called exercises.

Royal Navy sends its mightiest ship to take on the Iranian show of force in the Gulf: Naval commanders believe the deployment of HMS Daring, a Type 45 destroyer, will send a significant message to the Iranians because of the firepower and world-beating technology carried by the warship. Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, has publicly warned Iran that any blockade of the Strait of Hormuz would be "illegal and unsuccessful".

an average patriot said...

Try this one RC I changed it and it works for me.

an average patriot said...

A CALL TO WORLD WAR 3 A grim Ministry of Defense bulletin issued to Prime Minister Putin and President Medvedev today states that President Hu has “agreed in principal” that the only way to stop the West’s aggression led by the United States is through “direct and immediate military action” and that the Chinese leader has ordered his Naval Forces to “prepare for warfare.”

Hu’s call for war joins Chinese Rear Admiral and prominent military commentator Zhang Zhaozhong who, likewise, warned this past week that “China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a Third World War,” and Russian General Nikolai Makarov who grimly stated last week, “I do not rule out local and regional armed conflicts developing into a large-scale war, including using nuclear weapons.”

an average patriot said...

I haven't checked it yet but I just woke up and saw the story I quoted in my comment was from 07. That makes sense because of BUSH AND cHENEY BUT I HAVE TO CHECK.