Thursday, October 14, 2010

Japan like me warns of China's military

Japan warns of China's military rise People keep saying I am making too much about China and Japan's recent row over the capture of one of China's fishing boats by China but this is no joke. We do not have to be concerned about China responding militarily to us but I too am concerned that in one respect or the other Japan does and thus we will be dragged in and it wouldn't be pretty.

Japanese protesters accuse China of invading disputed islands

Cooler heads better prevail as this is no joke and it continues to ratchet up.I once again better reiterate the big picture and seriousness of an issue! This is no joke or normal diplomatic gamesmanship. Normally when we think of problems in Asia we think of North Korea and Taiwan. We forget about Japan's relationship but always China is in there somewhere.

China, Japan fishing boat standoff deepens amid delayed talks As you saw above it just keeps getting worse.

With no end to the fishing boat dispute in sight, relations between Asia's two biggest economies are in danger of backsliding. Taiwan has been trying to get involved in this too making their claims Row sees China cancel Japan visit it has been tit for tat ever since even though the boats captain has been released. Both sides want apologies and both want the other to pay. This has got to stop!

Remember the "incident this past spring with the 10 Chinese warships including destroyers and submarines off Okinawa? This put a new light on things to me. Look at the big picture once again. Japan has got to be rethinking their constant effort to get the US Military to leave Okinawa. It will behoove Japan to have us there. This puts a whole new light on China's turn around on Iran, their monetary finagling, and their last minute turn around on whether or not to attend the nuclear summit. This latest row really has to have Japan rethinking.

Remember Just prior to this sudden mood and cooperation change with the US we were being threatened for arming Taiwan, for meeting with the Dalai lama in Washington, and threatened with slowing our economic recovery. I fell for the line of thought that the so called experts were floating that China realized that if we go down so do they.

Cooperation between China Russia and the US is critical! Obama was right to say our ties will shape the future of the 21st century. The US and China are eying each other and moving very cautiously as they try to strike a balance. A few years back I began to view our relationship with China as the most important in the world. Not because we drove each others economy but because if at the time with Bush's instigation to war with Russia China due to the fact of how our 2 economies are so intertwined that if something happened China would side with us not Russia. I never imagined that today problems between China and Japan would be the issue.

As we discussed there have been at least three cases of groups of Chinese military ships crossing through the area of Okinawa since November 2008, first 4 ships then 6 then 8 and now 10 including destroyers and submarines. That case appeared to be the first involving surfaced submarines. The group of 10 ships, including the submarines, was observed about 90 miles (140 kilometers) southwest of Okinawa in international waters.

Two missile destroyers and three frigate ships from the same group were spotted participating in a flight exercise of carrier-based helicopters April 7-9, the Defense Ministry's Joint Staff Office said in a statement The war ships were in international waters but close to Okinawa and Japan was not notified. That area as you may know has natural resources under the ocean and islands claimed by both Nations. It is important that we stay in Okinawa as China plays a more important role in Asia and around the world as she gains strength militarily and economically as we just discussed. Remember our discussion on the importance of China and the US staying together to move successfully through the 21st century

We must maintain as much of the old world balance and order as we can to maintain a balance as we try to move progressively and successfully through the 21st century! I know of China and Japan's past, I know of the still ongoing Island disputes, the disagreement over natural gas in another area of the East China Sea, I also remember that with China's economic clout rising she took the number 3 seat on the world bank and we talk constantly that China is taking the leading role in Asia and Asia relations.

Being in a superior position puts one in a unique position of power and that power must be handled gracefully, with humility, responsibly, and not abused. That is something I taught all my sons and America under Bush did a lousy job of handling. I am a little worried that China too is getting a little too heavy handed and abusive with her new position of power and beginning to take what she wants instead of being content with what she has which is what I constantly lecture has to be the case if we are to have a future. The time when man and the planet could handle war and colonialism is over, period or else!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Demeur said...

Times have changed Jim. This is now all about corporate wars. Armys are now used for one purpose. That is to protect and expand corporations. China being somewhat of a teenager to the game is now testing her new 'toys'. We saw the exact same things back in the 60s with the U.S. and Russia. Russian subs would patrol our coasts while our military would scramble and drop marbles on their decks just to let them know we knew they were there. Different motivation now but the game is essentially the same.

an average patriot said...

I know but I am concerned China will go too far and at a very tenuous time.

Did you by any chance look at those links I gave you yesterday about Afghanistan? Those links include government info on Bush and Cheney meeting with the Taliban in Crawford and the White House.

9/11 happened and we attacked them after Bush threatened an attack after they told Bush he could not put a pipe line through Afghanistan.

Richard T said...

If ever there was a time to lok at this geopolitically it's now. Russia can't be that enthusiastic about an expansionist China indulging in sabre rattling about disputed territories (although of course these islands were seized by Japan during a time of Chinese weakness at the end of the 19th century and South Korea has similar gripes against the Japanese). Surely if the US diplomats have any brain, now is the time to make eyes at Russia as both states have a converging interest to keep a watch on Chinese ambitions. Having said that, I might differ about Chinese imperialism - I have always believed that the Chinese will not seek expansion beyond what they beleive is theirs. Time will tell.

an average patriot said...

That's right Richard, Welcome! I am sure I am not the only one that with Bush and Putin thought it may boil down to China and us against Russia.

However, more and more as China gets more belligerent and militarized and Russia more cooperative because of Obama Medvedev it is more and more looking lie us and Russia against China.

However we and the planet can not survive another world war and we need all three to realize this and be happy with what we have right now or we are screwed.