Wednesday, June 27, 2007

Amidst calls to Defund Cheney's office Both he and Bush's are Subpoenaed! What's it Worth?

First, to me it is ridiculous that Cheney feels he can claim executive privilege or any privilege for that matter. However when you remember the upity no good we're dealing with, it is no surprise. It is also no surprise to those of you that read my diaries that I believe Cheney is the real Decider and purveyor of this so called new order while Bush is merely the figurehead and the life long cheerleader elected to push the agenda through. Democrats think he has too much power. If they only knew!
I have been keeping an eye on events and at this point I think knee jerk reactions are gone by so I would like to discuss the latest developments! Bush calls these "Political games" but that of course only applies to Democrats. Anyway! It is doing the right thing if Bush does it.
As you know, Cheney routinely refuses to cooperate or show records on anything quoting executive privilege however as we discussed he has taken his quest for secrecy a step further by challenging demands from the US National Archives for information about the volume of classified documents generated by his office.
The dispute has exposed Mr Cheney to a fresh wave of questions about his powerful role at the heart of the Bush administration and added momentum to efforts by the Democratic-controlled Congress to uncover the secrets of his office.
He has failed in each of the past four years to meet reporting requirements on his office's handling of classified information and now has failed in each of the past four years to meet reporting requirements on his office's handling of classified information and now He's saying he's above the law. This is arrogant and shows bad judgment and gets more sickening to listen to the more we hear it.
We know that after 9/11 Cheney bypassed all other Administration officials and pushed Bush to make a series of controversial decisions that continues today.
I thought it a bit much but I thought it interesting when in response to Vice President Dick Cheney's claim that he doesn't have to follow executive orders on safeguarding classified information because he is part of the legislative branch has prompted congressional Democrats to respond in kind.
Rep. Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, is proposing lopping off funding for the vice president's office when the annual spending bill for the executive branch comes before the House later this week. I thought that was pretty interesting and stupefying when Lea Anne McBride, the vice president's spokeswoman, fired back saying Emanuel can either deal with the serious issues facing our country or create more partisan politics.
6 Years and what at all has been done to help the country? In contemplating cutting funding for Cheney's office I found it comical what Shumer said: It seems the vice president claims to exist in an alternative legal universe, where the law is whatever he says it is. That goes without saying whether it's Cheney or Bush.
I really can't see getting away with Defunding Cheney's office and I did find it interesting when at Noon today I heard The Senate Judiciary Committee subpoenaed the White House and Vice President Dick Cheney's office Wednesday for documents relating to President Bush's warrant-free eavesdropping program.
Also named in subpoenas signed by committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, were the Justice Department and the National Security Council. The committee wants documents that might shed light on internal disputes within the administration over the legality of the program.
"Our attempts to obtain information through testimony of administration witnesses have been met with a consistent pattern of evasion and misdirection," Leahy said in his cover letters for the subpoenas. "There is no legitimate argument for withholding the requested materials from this committee."
Echoing its response to previous congressional subpoenas to former administration officials Harriet Miers and Sara Taylor, the White House gave no indication that it would comply. "We're aware of the committee's action and will respond appropriately," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said.
I'll tell you, we are not getting much done because Bush and Cheny et al. will do their darnedest to make us appear as worthless as them but you have to admit that we are trying. I also have to say that in light of recent Democratic announcements and action, that we are getting desperate to be listened too and have an impact. In light of past reactions by the White House ignoring and blocking everything can we really expect one of these efforts to work? what do you suggest?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Larry said...

Condi Rice has yet to answer her subpoena from months ago, and she never will.

Bush and Cheney have done everything they wanted, with little resistance, so why do Democrats think they will adhere to a subpoena now.

If Democrats wanted to show muscle they would have stopped the war when given the chance.

Now they are mere flies on Cheney's forehead, to swat away occasionally.

jmsjoin said...

You are entirely right about Rice. It was obvious right from the 9/11 commission hearings that she was lying. Sadly there are still those that think she should run for President. Hmmph!
Everybody in that misAdministration thinks they are above the law. It is sickening but they believe laws are for us average Americans and they can do whatever they want as they continue to break down existing societal and world order and replace it with their version. I believe you read my Doctrine of Destruction!
You are right on! Bush and Cheney will continue to do what they want and make Dems look as corruptively inept as them. Dems will not stop the war or get anything done as long as Cheney and Bush are around.
They will succeed in finding an excuse to attack Iran before Congress can stop them and as always Dems and anyone that disagrees with them will continue to be a mere annoyance as you say.
I sent you a couple days ago something I sent to a doubter from Lou Dobbs on the NAU. I have been looking but I have not seen your story but responded to one of Lydia's and maybe you are not going to do it but you might want to look at it. I will get it and it will be in the following comment.

jmsjoin said...

Here it is!
Glad to see you. I just pulled a piece from Lou Dobbs that I sent to someone who said I was an idiot for thinking NAU was real. You might want to use this too.
It is no Joke! Lou Dobbs is blowing things out of proportion too (0 / 0)
huh? You should wake up. It is because of the narrow mindedness you are displaying that our future is so imperilled.

DOBBS: Representatives of the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for a summer meeting to further the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. The SPP, which many consider to be simply a blueprint for the North American Union, would weaken U.S. laws and regulations and diminish American sovereignty. Kitty Pilgrim has our report.


KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): President Bush, former Mexican President Vicente Fox, and former Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin conceived the Security and Prosperity Partnership between the three countries in 2005. A summit is scheduled in Canada later this summer to flesh out more details, but current information on any agreements is scarce.

JOHN URQUHART, COUNCIL OF CANADIANS: The Security and Prosperity Partnership will deliver neither security nor prosperity for a simple reason that it's not, so far, been democratic. Most of the discussions have been taking place behind closed doors.

PILGRIM: Now, new documents have come to light about how U.S. taxpayers may end up footing the bill. Watchdog group Judicial Watch dug up documents through the Freedom of Information Act. It's a financial work plan that describes how U.S. taxpayers would fund grants to Mexico. The work plan states, "The establishment of a grant fund for development with U.S. and Canadian resources to finance the development of physical infrastructure in Mexico."

TOM FITTON, JUDICIAL WATCH: I don't like the idea of taxpayer money being spent on dubious government enterprises. And I certainly don't like the idea of taxpayer money being spent to build up Mexico's physical infrastructure. Mexico have plenty of inherent wealth as a result of its oil and as a result of the $20 billion or so a year that Mexican illegals here send through to Mexico.

PILGRIM: The group says the 10-page work plan for financial services was filed somewhat incongruously among Health and Human Service records. U.S. taxpayers would not be alone; Canadian funds would also be committed to the project. (END VIDEOTAPE)
Anyway, yes we have to somehow reimplement Separation of Church and State. Bush has certainly shown why it is essential. His damage to our America, the middle east, and the entire world is just beginning and will go on in many instances long after he is gone and it will not be controlled.

Larry said...


I am doing the article on the NAU, it is in the pipeline, for when Lydia decides to use it. I'll let you know when it is up, and thanks for the info.