Thursday, September 15, 2011

Russia to meet with both sides in Syria to keep Bashar Al Asad in power, Syrian ally Iran urges dialogue: Forget about it

Russian Envoy to Meet Both Sides in Syria Conflict to Keep Assad in Power: A Russian envoy says he will meet with both sides in the Syrian conflict to help broker a political settlement that would keep President Bashar Assad in power. It will not do any good unless an agreement includes Bashar stepping down and that will not happen without the protesters taking up arms as they are thinking of doing.

The Arab League has called for "immediate change" in Syria, urging President Bashar al-Assad to end the government's violent crackdown on dissent and launch a comprehensive national dialogue.

Syrian ally Iran urges dialogue: Syrian security forces kept up a deadly crackdown on dissent Thursday as the embattled regime faced surprising calls to end the violence from its closest ally, Iran, in a sign of growing alarm over the 6-month-old uprising. In a live interview in Tehran, Iranian President Mahmoud said Basrar Assad should back away from his violent crackdown and talk to the opposition. They are getting more concerned daily that this will get the world involved, they are not concerned about the citizens. This will continue to ratchet up until?

Iran makes a u-turn on Syria or so they want you to think: No longer menaced by Iraq thanks to President Bush, as it was during the bloody eight-year war during the 1980s, Iran is fundamentally less beholden to Syria acting as a "vital bridge to the Arab world", particularly since the gates of diplomacy with the Arab world's biggest power, Egypt, have begun to slowly open, given the prospect of normalization between Tehran and Cairo.

In addition, Tehran's leaders have not forgotten recent statements from Damascus of support for Saudi intervention in Bahrain, in the name of Arab nationalism, which truly surprised and even dismayed Tehran. Personally I have to believe that was for the Sunni majority in Syria and not the true feelings of Shiite Bashar Assad. but nonetheless it was said.

Syrian Official in Hama Resigns to Protest Bloodshed: The attorney general of the central Syrian province of Hama has resigned in protest as he detailed hundreds of killings, arrests and torture cases by the government of President Bashar al-Assad. He is the highest-level official to quit the government over its brutal crackdown on five months of protests around the country.

SYRIA: Some Syrians despair, consider armed confrontation: When Syrian security forces entered the home of 42-year-old Hama resident Abu Zeid and put a gun to the stomach of his 8-year-old son, armed confrontation against the government of President Bashar Assad suddenly became a more imaginable option

The so called experts say there are 2 possibilities. One possibility is that the army will split, largely on sectarian lines. The New York Times reports today as follows: There were reports that dozens of soldiers encouraged by the rout of Gaddafi in Libya, had deserted their positions in a village near Homs, the country's third-largest city, and also on the outskirts of the capital, Damascus, to join the popular uprising against Assad and his Baath Party. Activists said that since the uprising started in mid-March, most desertions have taken place in the eastern tribal area of Deir al-Zour, bordering Iraq; in the northwestern province of Idlib; and in towns around Homs and Damascus.

The Free Officers of Syria, a group of soldiers and officers who left the army last month in protest of the crackdown and say that they now represent defectors, published an online statement saying that "large" defections were reported in Harasta, another suburb of Damascus and that armed troops loyal to the government were chasing those defectors.

Personally I do eventually see a mass defection of conscionable Shiite officers and many minority Sunni soldiers who make up the majority of the military. I also have to wonder how long it will be before Sunni Al Qaeda and even Saudi Arabia are involved, helping the down trodden Sunni majority. You know damn well Iran is helping the Shiite minority.

Anyway the 2nd possibility they think will be the Alawite establishment military and civilian will overthrow Bashar because of the hardships put on the establishment.I absolutely believe that too will happen but there is a third that is not a possibility but a definite and as you may agree that is Iran who is already there clandestinely and will never allow Syria to fall to Democracy without a major fight. What they did to their own people was a small taste of what they will do in Syria.

Syria will be if it is not already another Proxy war: This one is or will be between the west and their Middle East allies and Syria and Iran.

George w Bush purposely did this in his infinite stupidity: I have to reiterate something I have said too many times since Bush chose to ignore all warnings of total civil war spreading throughout the entire Middle East so he could attack Iraq and straighten out the Middle East as God spoke to him and instructed him to. You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. As expected this democratization started by Bush has taken on a life of its own.

I still see a total civil war Sunni against Shiite erupting in the Middle East because Bush freed up Iran to instigate it on their end and they are. I still am concerned we will have a permanent presence in the Middle East but feel we will have to largely leave Iraq to her own demise. We will still be there but it looks like Yemen, and the Gulf of Aden will be the prime focus unless Iran gets something going between the US and Iran.

Saddam Hussein with his lies about possessing WMD kept Iran in check. Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with their chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

Actually Russia, China and Lebanon have blocked a move for the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's crackdown on dissent. Sanctioning slaughter is more like it! I believe I remember hearing Russia weigh in against what Syria and Iran are doing but China has yet to weigh in. Any way you look at it we are playing into Iran’s hand.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy,Iran is in Syria helping Bashar Assad and they do not want us interfering. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total Middle East breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma

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