Occupy the World

The Arab spring gave birth to the occupy movement which became "occupy the world"

The Occupy Wall Street movement has become a global phenomenon, spreading to more than 1,000 cities in the United States and at least 92 countries worldwide: Occupy Wall Street, a leaderless protest movement that started in New York City, has quickly become a global phenomenon. On Sept. 17, men and women of varied backgrounds and beliefs organized at New York City's Zuccotti Park in nonviolent protest.

The protestors say they represent the 99 percent and have gathered in protest with the goal of ending the greed and corruption amongst the wealthiest 1 percent of America. "This is a populist movement," New York occupier, Tony Smith, told Digital Journal. "We don't know why everyone is out of work, but the stratification between the rich and poor has grown to an alarming level, and people in poverty aren't going to stand for it much longer."

First I really have to say that I am impressed that some here are finally standing up to the corporatocracy that rules and governs this country. I am also dismayed to see them degraded as ilk and rabble rousing nay Sayers. They are speaking the truth whoever they may be and once again the truth is going to be discounted and if by force as necessary so a hidden selfish agenda can be followed.

With that said I watched the Arab spring countries thinking that we should be doing the same thing here and for exactly the same reasons. Less so in some degrees and more so in others! I was wondering what it would take to get us in the streets and now I know. However, I remember when this started on wall street a protester was interviewed and he nailed it when he said this is our Arab spring.

The movement has become a global phenomenon, spreading to more than 1,000 cities in the United States and at least 92 countries worldwide but it started with the Arab spring. The Arab spring gave birth to the occupy movement which became "occupy the world" I believe it will continue to grow unless another war possibly a world war intervenes and side tracks this movement one way or the other.

Of course the US is taking credit for starting this but as we know it was the Arab spring countries. It is however right that the US pick up the gauntlet and lead the way.

we the average citizens of every country regardless of ethnicity are fighting for the same thing. We are all fighting because we are being lied to , controlled, we have no jobs, no food, we have no future. In Yemen, Syria, and Bahrain they are being stepped on and killed.

They are protesting in Europe for the same reasons. The entire world is feeling the pinch even China who has been taking measures against its citizens for months. China as you can surmise is starting to hurt because its biggest customers the EU and the US are in trouble. I warned years ago for countries to stop wishing for the US demise because today we are all intertwined, the leader goes down we all go down.

What is happening in Europe and the Arab spring countries is now here. The weak always feel the hurt first and we have been pretty weak over the last ten years because of our grotesque governing in the first place. Average citizens of the world have hit the breaking point. The Wall street protests have spread to Boston and around the country with promises to get results.

We are all peeved. As our plight worsens at the hands of our grossly inadequate bickering mis-government even in the US the breaking point in many instances has been hit. The worlds Governments and the worlds citizens will pay the price. Anarchy is our future.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamerican.blogspot.com

In pictures: Wall Street austerity and economic protests go global:

In pictures: Worldwide protests



Wall Street sit-in protest goes global: Protesters worldwide geared up for a cry of rage on Saturday against bankers, financiers and politicians they accuse of ruining global economies and condemning millions to poverty and hardship through greed.
Galvanized by the past month's Occupy Wall Street movement, the global protest began on a sunny spring day in New Zealand and is due to ripple round the world to Alaska via Frankfurt, London, Washington and New York.

Many Europeans spent Saturday showing solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York, by answering the call for a day of protests against economic injustice and government cuts. In the European Union’s capital Brussels, around 7,000 people demonstrated against austerity measures and corporate greed. Some of them were outside a branch of Dexia, the Belgian-French financial institution that recently received a four billion euro bailout.

Protesters also gathered in Madrid’s Puerta del Sol plaza, a site significant for Spain’s Indignados, whose aims were also being supported through worldwide protests on Saturday. At the height of the Indignado campaign, the plaza was a campsite for demonstrators calling for the government to deal with unemployment and stop welfare cuts.

Of course the US is taking credit for starting this but as we know it was the Arab spring countries. It is however right that the US pick up the gauntlet and lead the way.

we the average citizens of every country regardless of ethnicity are fighting for the same thing. We are all fighting because we are being lied to , controlled, we have no jobs, no food, we have no future. In Yemen, Syria, and Bahrain they are being stepped on and killed.

They are protesting in Europe for the same reasons. The entire world is feeling the pinch even China who has been taking measures against its citizens for months. China as you can surmise is starting to hurt because its biggest customers the EU and the US are in trouble. I warned years ago for countries to stop wishing for the US demise because today we are all intertwined, the leader goes down we all go down.

What is happening in Europe and the Arab spring countries will happen here. The weak always feel the hurt first and we have been pretty weak over the last ten years because of our grotesque governing in the first place. Average citizens of the world have hit the breaking point. The Wall street protests have spread to Boston and around the country with promises to get results.

We are all peeved. As our plight worsens at the hands of our grossly inadequate bickering mis-government even in the US the breaking point in many instances has been hit. The worlds Governments and the worlds citizens will pay the price. Anarchy is our future.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamerican.blogspot.com

As Scorn for Government Grows, Protests Surge even in the United States and this is just beginning. Our future is bleak

As Scorn for Vote Grows, Protests Surge: Hundreds of thousands of disillusioned Indians cheer a rural activist on a hunger strike. Israel reels before the largest street demonstrations in its history. Enraged young people in Spain and Greece take over public squares across their countries. Their complaints range from corruption to lack of affordable housing and joblessness, common grievances the world over. But from South Asia to the heartland of Europe and now even to Wall Street, these protesters share something else: wariness, even contempt, toward traditional politicians and the democratic political process they preside over.

The United States is not exempt either. As our situation degrades and millions more suffer the demise of a failing society more and more average Americans will start coming out in protest. The US military has trained to deal with domestic anarchism and we have the facilities in the FEMA concentration camps

‘Occupy Wall Street’ Protests Turn Violent; Video Shows Police Macing Women

Turkey to press ahead with sanctions against Syria: In the absence of UN security council action, Turkey's move could be decisive in a six-month standoff between Syrian security forces and anti-government activists which has seen more than 2,700 civilian deaths and sharply destabilized the region. Erdogan is preparing for a range of economic, military and political sanctions which will further damage the once-close relationship between the two states.

Men-Only Election Shows Limits of Saudi Reply to Arab Spring: Saudi Arabia excluded most adult citizens from today’s municipal elections, betting that a limited ballot coupled with $130 billion of extra spending will be enough to halt Arab unrest at the kingdom’s borders.
Women weren’t entitled to stand as candidates or cast votes in the ballot, which closed at 5 p.m. local time, and the councilors chosen by Saudi men age 21 and over who aren’t in the military will enjoy few powers. Still, the fact that the ballot took place is an advance from two years ago, when the election was first due and King Abdullah postponed it.

Bahrain Sentences Medical Workers for Treating Protesters: A security court in the Gulf state of Bahrain has sentenced 20 doctors and medics to long jail sentences for treating wounded demonstrators during unrest earlier this year. The court sentence is expected to further enrage the kingdom's restive Shiite majority, which has been protesting the rule of the country's minority Sunni leadership.

Following the way the Shiite majority is stepped on by the Sunni minority was a striking parallel to the way the Republican minority pushes around the Democratic minority here in the US. No wonder the Republicans have remained silent over what has been going on in Bahrain.

* I was listening to one of the organizers of the Wall Street protests saying this is our Arab spring, we the average citizens of every country regardless of ethnicity are fighting for the same thing. We are all fighting because we are being lied to , controlled, we have no jobs, no food, we have no future. In Yemen, Syria, and Bahrain they are being stepped on and killed.

They are protesting in Europe for the same reasons. The entire world is feeling the pinch even China who has been taking measures against its citizens for months. China as you can surmise is starting to hurt because its biggest customers the EU and the US are in trouble. I warned years ago for countries to stop wishing for the US demise because today we are all intertwined, the leader goes down we all go down.

What is happening in  Europe and the Arab spring countries will happen here. The weak always feel the hurt first and we have been pretty weak over the last ten years because of our grotesque governing in the first place. Average citizens of the world have hit the breaking point. The Wall street protests have spread to Boston and around the country with promises to get results.

We are all peeved. As our plight worsens at the hands of our grossly inadequate bickering mis-government even in the US the breaking point in many instances has been hit. The worlds Governments and the worlds citizens will pay the price. Anarchy is our future.



James Joiner

Gardner, Ma

http://anaverageamerican.blogspot.com

Russia to meet with both sides in Syria to keep Bashar Al Asad in power, Syrian ally Iran urges dialogue: Forget about it

Russian Envoy to Meet Both Sides in Syria Conflict to Keep Assad in Power: A Russian envoy says he will meet with both sides in the Syrian conflict to help broker a political settlement that would keep President Bashar Assad in power. It will not do any good unless an agreement includes Bashar stepping down and that will not happen without the protesters taking up arms as they are thinking of doing.

The Arab League has called for "immediate change" in Syria, urging President Bashar al-Assad to end the government's violent crackdown on dissent and launch a comprehensive national dialogue.

Syrian ally Iran urges dialogue: Syrian security forces kept up a deadly crackdown on dissent Thursday as the embattled regime faced surprising calls to end the violence from its closest ally, Iran, in a sign of growing alarm over the 6-month-old uprising. In a live interview in Tehran, Iranian President Mahmoud said Basrar Assad should back away from his violent crackdown and talk to the opposition. They are getting more concerned daily that this will get the world involved, they are not concerned about the citizens. This will continue to ratchet up until?

Iran makes a u-turn on Syria or so they want you to think: No longer menaced by Iraq thanks to President Bush, as it was during the bloody eight-year war during the 1980s, Iran is fundamentally less beholden to Syria acting as a "vital bridge to the Arab world", particularly since the gates of diplomacy with the Arab world's biggest power, Egypt, have begun to slowly open, given the prospect of normalization between Tehran and Cairo.

In addition, Tehran's leaders have not forgotten recent statements from Damascus of support for Saudi intervention in Bahrain, in the name of Arab nationalism, which truly surprised and even dismayed Tehran. Personally I have to believe that was for the Sunni majority in Syria and not the true feelings of Shiite Bashar Assad. but nonetheless it was said.

Syrian Official in Hama Resigns to Protest Bloodshed: The attorney general of the central Syrian province of Hama has resigned in protest as he detailed hundreds of killings, arrests and torture cases by the government of President Bashar al-Assad. He is the highest-level official to quit the government over its brutal crackdown on five months of protests around the country.

SYRIA: Some Syrians despair, consider armed confrontation: When Syrian security forces entered the home of 42-year-old Hama resident Abu Zeid and put a gun to the stomach of his 8-year-old son, armed confrontation against the government of President Bashar Assad suddenly became a more imaginable option

The so called experts say there are 2 possibilities. One possibility is that the army will split, largely on sectarian lines. The New York Times reports today as follows: There were reports that dozens of soldiers encouraged by the rout of Gaddafi in Libya, had deserted their positions in a village near Homs, the country's third-largest city, and also on the outskirts of the capital, Damascus, to join the popular uprising against Assad and his Baath Party. Activists said that since the uprising started in mid-March, most desertions have taken place in the eastern tribal area of Deir al-Zour, bordering Iraq; in the northwestern province of Idlib; and in towns around Homs and Damascus.

The Free Officers of Syria, a group of soldiers and officers who left the army last month in protest of the crackdown and say that they now represent defectors, published an online statement saying that "large" defections were reported in Harasta, another suburb of Damascus and that armed troops loyal to the government were chasing those defectors.

Personally I do eventually see a mass defection of conscionable Shiite officers and many minority Sunni soldiers who make up the majority of the military. I also have to wonder how long it will be before Sunni Al Qaeda and even Saudi Arabia are involved, helping the down trodden Sunni majority. You know damn well Iran is helping the Shiite minority.

Anyway the 2nd possibility they think will be the Alawite establishment military and civilian will overthrow Bashar because of the hardships put on the establishment.I absolutely believe that too will happen but there is a third that is not a possibility but a definite and as you may agree that is Iran who is already there clandestinely and will never allow Syria to fall to Democracy without a major fight. What they did to their own people was a small taste of what they will do in Syria.

Syria will be if it is not already another Proxy war: This one is or will be between the west and their Middle East allies and Syria and Iran.

George w Bush purposely did this in his infinite stupidity: I have to reiterate something I have said too many times since Bush chose to ignore all warnings of total civil war spreading throughout the entire Middle East so he could attack Iraq and straighten out the Middle East as God spoke to him and instructed him to. You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. As expected this democratization started by Bush has taken on a life of its own.

I still see a total civil war Sunni against Shiite erupting in the Middle East because Bush freed up Iran to instigate it on their end and they are. I still am concerned we will have a permanent presence in the Middle East but feel we will have to largely leave Iraq to her own demise. We will still be there but it looks like Yemen, and the Gulf of Aden will be the prime focus unless Iran gets something going between the US and Iran.

Saddam Hussein with his lies about possessing WMD kept Iran in check. Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with their chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

Actually Russia, China and Lebanon have blocked a move for the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's crackdown on dissent. Sanctioning slaughter is more like it! I believe I remember hearing Russia weigh in against what Syria and Iran are doing but China has yet to weigh in. Any way you look at it we are playing into Iran’s hand.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy,Iran is in Syria helping Bashar Assad and they do not want us interfering. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total Middle East breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Iran makes a u-turn on Syria as Attorney General of Hama steps down to protest bloodshed and residents contemplate armed confrontation

Iran makes a u-turn on Syria or so they want you to think: No longer menaced by Iraq thanks to President Bush, as it was during the bloody eight-year war during the 1980s, Iran is fundamentally less beholden to Syria acting as a "vital bridge to the Arab world", particularly since the gates of diplomacy with the Arab world's biggest power, Egypt, have begun to slowly open, given the prospect of normalization between Tehran and Cairo.

In addition, Tehran's leaders have not forgotten recent statements from Damascus of support for Saudi intervention in Bahrain, in the name of Arab nationalism, which truly surprised and even dismayed Tehran. Personally I have to believe that was for the Sunni majority in Syria and not the true feelings of Shiite Bashar Assad. but nonetheless it was said.

Syrian Official in Hama Resigns to Protest Bloodshed: The attorney general of the central Syrian province of Hama has resigned in protest as he detailed hundreds of killings, arrests and torture cases by the government of President Bashar al-Assad. He is the highest-level official to quit the government over its brutal crackdown on five months of protests around the country.

SYRIA: Some Syrians despair, consider armed confrontation: When Syrian security forces entered the home of 42-year-old Hama resident Abu Zeid and put a gun to the stomach of his 8-year-old son, armed confrontation against the government of President Bashar Assad suddenly became a more imaginable option

The so called experts say there are 2 possibilities. One possibility is that the army will split, largely on sectarian lines. The New York Times reports today as follows: There were reports that dozens of soldiers encouraged by the rout of Gaddafi in Libya, had deserted their positions in a village near Homs, the country's third-largest city, and also on the outskirts of the capital, Damascus, to join the popular uprising against Assad and his Baath Party. Activists said that since the uprising started in mid-March, most desertions have taken place in the eastern tribal area of Deir al-Zour, bordering Iraq; in the northwestern province of Idlib; and in towns around Homs and Damascus.
The Free Officers of Syria, a group of soldiers and officers who left the army last month in protest of the crackdown and say that they now represent defectors, published an online statement saying that "large" defections were reported in Harasta, another suburb of Damascus and that armed troops loyal to the government were chasing those defectors.

Personally I do eventually see a mass defection of conscionable Shiite officers and many minority Sunni soldiers who make up the majority of the military. I also have to wonder how long it will be before Sunni Al Qaeda and even Saudi Arabia are involved, helping the down trodden Sunni majority. You know damn well Iran is helping the Shiite minority.

Anyway the 2nd possibility they think will be the Alawite establishment military and civilian will overthrow Bashar because of the hardships put on the establishment.I absolutely believe that too will happen but there is a third that is not a possibility but a definite and as you may agree that is Iran who is already there clandestinely and will never allow Syria to fall to Democracy without a major fight. What they did to their own people was a small taste of what they will do in Syria.

Syria will be if it is not already another Proxy war: This one is or will be between the west and their Middle East allies and Syria and Iran.

George w Bush purposely did this in his infinite stupidity: I have to reiterate something I have said too many times since Bush chose to ignore all warnings of total civil war spreading throughout the entire Middle East so he could attack Iraq and straighten out the Middle East as God spoke to him and instructed him to. You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. As expected this democratization started by Bush has taken on a life of its own.

I still see a total civil war Sunni against Shiite erupting in the Middle East because Bush freed up Iran to instigate it on their end and they are. I still am concerned we will have a permanent presence in the Middle East but feel we will have to largely leave Iraq to her own demise. We will still be there but it looks like Yemen, and the Gulf of Aden will be the prime focus unless Iran gets something going between the US and Iran.

Saddam Hussein with his lies about possessing WMD kept Iran in check. Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with their chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

Actually Russia, China and Lebanon have blocked a move for the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's crackdown on dissent. Sanctioning slaughter is more like it! I believe I remember hearing Russia weigh in against what Syria and Iran are doing but China has yet to weigh in. Any way you look at it we are playing into Iran’s hand.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy,Iran is in Syria helping Bashar Assad and they do not want us interfering. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total Middle East breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.




James Joiner

Gardner, Ma


http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

With Qaddafi gone, the next vicious regime to fall is that of Bashar al-Assad in Syria. How exactly does that happen? It is not going to happen!

It is easy to say that with Qaddafi gone, the next vicious regime to fall is that of Bashar al-Assad in Syria. 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished, but realists and pessimists have rightly asked "how exactly does that happen?" It is not going to happen!

The so called experts are forgetting the most important detail the elephant in the room Iran. Iran will not allow a Democracy at their doorstep. Iran warns against outside interference and "change in Syria's government: Syria has highly-sensitive neighbors and therefore (any) change in Syria will not bring good influence to anyone and can create serious regional crisis which could spread beyond the region, said the foreign minister.

The so called experts say there are 2 possibilities. One possibility is that the army will split, largely on sectarian lines. The New York Times reports today as follows: There were reports that dozens of soldiers encouraged by the rout of Gaddafi in Libya, had deserted their positions in a village near Homs, the country's third-largest city, and also on the outskirts of the capital, Damascus, to join the popular uprising against Assad and his Baath Party. Activists said that since the uprising started in mid-March, most desertions have taken place in the eastern tribal area of Deir al-Zour, bordering Iraq; in the northwestern province of Idlib; and in towns around Homs and Damascus.

The Free Officers of Syria, a group of soldiers and officers who left the army last month in protest of the crackdown and say that they now represent defectors, published an online statement saying that "large" defections were reported in Harasta, another suburb of Damascus and that armed troops loyal to the government were chasing those defectors.

Personally I do eventually see a mass defection of conscionable Shiite officers and many minority Sunni soldiers who make up the majority of the military. I also have to wonder how long it will be before Sunni Al Qaeda and even Saudi Arabia are involved, helping the down trodden Sunni majority. You know damn well Iran is helping the Shiite minority.

Anyway the 2nd possibility they think will be the Alawite establishment military and civilian will overthrow Bashar because of the hardships put on the establishment.I absolutely believe that too will happen but there is a third that is not a possibility but a definite and as you may agree that is Iran who is already there clandestinely and will never allow Syria to fall to Democracy without a major fight. What they did to their own people was a small taste of what they will do in Syria.

Syria will be if it is not already another Proxy war: This one is or will be between the west and their Middle East allies and Syria and Iran.

George w Bush purposely did this in his infinite stupidity: I have to reiterate something I have said too many times since Bush chose to ignore all warnings of total civil war spreading throughout the entire Middle East so he could attack Iraq and straighten out the Middle East as God spoke to him and instructed him to. You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. As expected this democratization started by Bush has taken on a life of its own.

I still see a total civil war Sunni against Shiite erupting in the Middle East because Bush freed up Iran to instigate it on their end and they are. I still am concerned we will have a permanent presence in the Middle East but feel we will have to largely leave Iraq to her own demise. We will still be there but it looks like Yemen, and the Gulf of Aden will be the prime focus unless Iran gets something going between the US and Iran.

Saddam Hussein with his lies about possessing WMD kept Iran in check. Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with their chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

Actually Russia, China and Lebanon have blocked a move for the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's crackdown on dissent. Sanctioning slaughter is more like it! I believe I remember hearing Russia weigh in against what Syria and Iran are doing but China has yet to weigh in. Any way you look at it we are playing into Iran’s hand.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy,Iran is in Syria helping Bashar Assad and they do not want us interfering. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total Middle East breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.




James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Visiting Russia, Kim Jong-il casts nervous eye on Tripoli: North Korea is in Syria's boat, they need not worry except for all out war!

Visiting Russia, Kim Jong-il casts nervous eye on Tripoli: North Korea's Kim Jong-il is visiting Russia to bolster diplomatic support. A key issue is the ability of Kim's son and heir to rule with an iron hand – an issue getting renewed attention as Libyan rebels advance into Tripoli.

NK leader heads into China from Russia: North Korea said Thursday it agreed with Russia on the need to quickly resume six-party denuclearization talks after its mercurial leader appeared to be headed out of the neighboring country through China. North Korean leader Kim visiting China: report

We know for a fact and have discussed often that China Russia and Iran will not allow a Democracy at their doorstep. Iran warns against outside interference and "change in Syria's government: Syria has highly-sensitive neighbors and therefore (any) change in Syria will not bring good influence to anyone and can create serious regional crisis which could spread beyond the region, said the foreign minister.

We have discussed often that North Korea is China's lapdog keeping Democracy off China's doorstep. I remember in the past that China speculated that they would allow a unified Korea if the United States would depart but we know that would never happen.

China does not want a Democratic unified Korea with the United States or nore aptly the United States military at their door. Recently they have been building a Global military telling the US to leave Asia to them. Once again, that will never happen. Russia also has a Border with North Korea thus an interest in keeping us out of North Korea. I would think North Korea can count on help at the very least from China in squelching any uprising the starving downtrodden citizens of North Korea. Remember when Bush commended North Korea and took them off the ranks of terror States? Good move huh? North Korea supplied nuclear software to Iran: North Korea has intensified its cooperation with Iran this year and supplied it with a computer program that could help the Islamic Republic build nuclear weapons, a German newspaper reported on Wednesday, citing western intelligence sources.

Now Syria:Another Proxy war is going on and is setting up this one between the west and their Middle East allies and Syria and Iran.

George w Bush purposely did this in his infinite stupidity: I have to reiterate something I have said too many times since Bush chose to ignore all warnings of total civil war spreading throughout the entire Middle East so he could attack Iraq and straighten out the Middle East as God spoke to him and instructed him to. You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. As expected this democratization started by Bush has taken on a life of its own.

I still see a total civil war Sunni against Shiite erupting in the Middle East because Bush freed up Iran to instigate it on their end and they are. I still am concerned we will have a permanent presence in the Middle East but feel we will have to largely leave Iraq to her own demise. We will still be there but it looks like Yemen, and the Gulf of Aden will be the prime focus unless Iran gets something going between the US and Iran.

Saddam Hussein with his lies about possessing WMD kept Iran in check. Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with their chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

Actually Russia, China and Lebanon have blocked a move for the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's crackdown on dissent. Sanctioning slaughter is more like it! I believe I remember hearing Russia weigh in against what Syria and Iran are doing but China has yet to weigh in. Any way you look at it we are playing into Iran’s hand.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy,Iran is in Syria helping Bashar Assad and they do not want us interfering. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total Middle East breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com