Look at the whole picture: Turkey at the crossroads or in the crosshairs?

Islam in Turkey: Turkey, steadily since the rise of the AKP party took power in 2002, has been investing considerable resources in expanding its reach both in the Islamic and in the Western world, by the use of Islamic organizations that spread in dozens of countries and are mainly composed of Turkish-descent citizens. The web of relations and transactions between them and with Turkey are multiple and far-reaching.

Part of NATO missile defense goes live : The station is located in the city of Malatya, about 400 miles southeast of the capital Ankara, and is manned by both Turkish and U.S. personnel, the spokesman said. Turkey is one of five countries that have agreed to deploy parts of the U.S.-designed defense system. Portugal, Poland, Romania and Spain have also agreed to participate.

I remember a couple months back when Iran said as soon as the site in Turkey was on line it would be a valid target for Iran. I also just caught that Russia and the United States are pretty close to an agreement on being partners on the MDS. The only problem now is getting the US to put on paper that Russia is not a target. That should not be a problem one way or the other. Sign the damn paper.

On the new Turkish naval strategy: Turkish Naval Forces Commander Adm. Murat Bilgel outlined the new Turkish naval strategy in the latest issue of the Proceedings magazine of the United States Naval Institute. In the same issue, naval force commanders of other NATO member countries also outlined their new perspectives ahead of the strategic turn in the coming NATO summit in May in Chicago.

Therefore, one of the two main factors framing the needs of the new Turkish Navy is in parallel to the new NATO needs. Adm. Bilgel summarizes this as “focusing on sophisticated, modular designs that allow us to move toward economy in our operations with fewer crew and lower fuel costs. The objective is to maintain and develop a credible naval force despite budget constraints.”
The other main factor is in parallel to the new Turkish military approach, which is integrated with the Turkish foreign policy and economy needs.

Turkey is an up and coming Nation straddling the middle east, Europe, Islam, and the west. As such they are walking a fine line. They are serving us and the middle east well.

We just discussed this! We need Turkey, the EU needs Turkey, the world needs Turkey. However the US and the EU as you know has long frustrated Turkey. Supposedly she is turning towards Iran but while we tighten sanctions and money Iran is using Turkey to fill the void but in the end Iran as you know will go her own way and Turkey will stay with us.

I again reiterate the whole story: Turkey's future is tied to a pipeline!

It really drives me crazy but the more you research the more you realize all throughout the middle east, Georgia, Afghanistan, everywhere, all the wars and controversy can be tied back to gas and oil. Russia's interest in Iran in numerous and as such is not singular to nuclear cooperation. You might have already known Russia was also interested in Iran's gas and oil but an interesting possible relationship and cooperation just dawned on me.

I am sure you remember Russia creating a crisis recently shutting off Europe's gas and oil supply after its confrontation with Georgia, that and the fact that Turkey has long desired and endeavored to become a member of the European Union. This opens up a win, win for all involved!

* Center pin Turkey, King pin Russia, center pin Iran! Winner US, European Union, Iran, Russia, and all our union and future! Remember the missile defense shield President Obama killed as an issue by switching to the Aegis? The missile Defense shield was starting to look like a necessity with N Korea in pressing on missiles capable of carrying war heads and the ability to reach Hawaii or so we hear. Iran we still do not know about but they will not compromise their nuclear desires so with a responsible credible ally if Russia is one, the responsibility to ensure Iran's real intentions would be there's under scrutiny of course. There is room here.

** The winners in all this is everyone, but Turkey and the EU above all! Russia wants the franchise for Iran's gas and oil! Turkey is at the crossroads of the middle east and the European Union. This is a major point for compromise in all our problems! Give Russia the franchise, the EU lets Turkey join in turn for Turkey allowing a pipeline from Iran through Turkey into the EU. Everyone wins! A win, win for all and a chance for us to move into the future as one.

I reiterate the future is up to a pipeline!

In the Middle East we have been living a total lie from 9/11 on! You have not heard the truth once! Not on the events of 9/11, the Anthrax attacks which scared Congress to pass the so called Patriot Act and give Bush the abusive power he needed to attack Afghanistan for not allowing his pipeline through Afghanistan.

 The only remaining obstacle on 9-11 was the remaining agreement between the Taliban and Bridas Corporation. The Bush Administration, Congress, many in our major media, and even the 9-11 Commission and Cheney Energy Task Force all know about Bridas Corporation because that Argentine oil and gas company was standing in the way of our US oil companies and UK oil companies. The Caspian Basin oil is landlocked and there are only so many ways to get that oil out of the ground, to the ocean ports and into your gas tanks or home heating oil tanks.

What a coincidence huh? There is the direct route from Turkmenistan across Iran to the ocean, but that is not politically popular since the overthrow of the Shah of Iran many years ago. There is: 1.) the route across the Caspian Sea westward, which is extremely costly; and through Azerbaijan through Turkey to the Mediterranean; and 2.) from Turkmenistan through Georgia to the Black Sea; and 3.) through the Ukraine to Europe; and 4.) the Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the ocean. Until one of those solutions was in place, the holes being drilled into the ground by British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon and others could not go anywhere and could not produce revenues for those companies. A route northward through Russia would put US oil companies at risk to changes in Russian politics and the Eastward route through China was not deemed secure enough since China is soon to become the second largest user of petroleum in the world after the United States.

Lastly!

Many of us have said numerous times that Bush was advised before hand that if he attacked Iraq he would destabilize the Middle East. He knew before he ignored all good advice that the neighbors would get involved and they are. He knew that it was most likely that Iraq would be divvied up between the Kurds, the Sunni's, and the Shiite and it will be. In the past I have written extensively the entire Middle East would blow and then the entire world would be involved in war.

I know that both Turkey and Iran are fighting Kurds that are looking for Autonomy but never really thought that a free Kurdistan would encompass areas of Iran and Turkey as well as Iraq. Knowing the close American Kurdish relationship I really have to rethink what Bush's real goal was here after I discovered an old story. Tell me what you think!

Kurdistan Observer: A Free Kurdistan! Recent nuances and nudges in government policy as well as tacit support for the most obscene anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism by the ruling political party of Turkey ought to cause the United States to begin to rethink its comprehensive policy toward Asia in general and toward one non-Arab minority in Iraq in particular: the Kurds. What, today, is the most intractable political problem in Iraq? It is the very real political and religious aims of Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish regions of the nation. Since the inception of Operation Iraqi Freedom, President Bush maintained that the unity of the nation of Iraq was non-negotiable. In politics and in war, however, nothing should be non-negotiable.

This sounds vaguely familiar but Iraq is not a nation in any real sense, it was rather three separate concentration camps each with differing degrees of oppression. An answer? Maybe but there are numerous counties involved and they all want their answer as a result there will be none I am afraid because peace and prosperity is not the goal but getting ones way and individual National Sovereignty is!

The US needs Turkey for its Middle East policy but it is obvious the rest of the world does too. Turkey and the world are at a crossroads which way will we go!? Let Turkey join the European Union! There are drawbacks as membership would give them freedom in the rest of the member countries but it can be managed and I think there are more positives than negatives.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Turkey should be allowed to join the European Union

Turkey will probably never join the European Union because of prejudicial attitudes by the bloc`s existing members, Ankara`s chief EU negotiator said, in what appeared to be the first high-level acknowledgement that its decades-long bid might fail.

Turkey was more likely to negotiate special access to the EU market, like Norway, EU Affairs Minister Egemen Bagis  said, according to an article in London`s Telegraph newspaper published.

Turkey is an up and coming Nation straddling the middle east, Europe, Islam, and the west. As such they are walking a fine line. They are serving us and the middle east well.

We just discussed this! We need Turkey, the EU needs Turkey, the world needs Turkey. However the US and the EU as you know has long frustrated Turkey. Supposedly she is turning towards Iran but while we tighten sanctions and money Iran is using Turkey to fill the void but in the end Iran as you know will go her own way and Turkey will stay with us.

I again reiterate the whole story: Turkey's future is tied to a pipeline!

It really drives me crazy but the more you research the more you realize all throughout the middle east, Georgia, Afghanistan, everywhere, all the wars and controversy can be tied back to gas and oil. Russia's interest in Iran in numerous and as such is not singular to nuclear cooperation. You might have already known Russia was also interested in Iran's gas and oil but an interesting possible relationship and cooperation just dawned on me.

I am sure you remember Russia creating a crisis recently shutting off Europe's gas and oil supply after its confrontation with Georgia, that and the fact that Turkey has long desired and endeavored to become a member of the European Union. This opens up a win, win for all involved!

* Center pin Turkey, King pin Russia, center pin Iran! Winner US, European Union, Iran, Russia, and all our union and future! Remember the missile defense shield President Obama killed as an issue by switching to the Aegis? The missile Defense shield was starting to look like a necessity with N Korea in pressing on missiles capable of carrying war heads and the ability to reach Hawaii or so we hear. Iran we still do not know about but they will not compromise their nuclear desires so with a responsible credible ally if Russia is one, the responsibility to ensure Iran's real intentions would be there's under scrutiny of course. There is room here.

** The winners in all this is everyone, but Turkey and the EU above all! Russia wants the franchise for Iran's gas and oil! Turkey is at the crossroads of the middle east and the European Union. This is a major point for compromise in all our problems! Give Russia the franchise, the EU lets Turkey join in turn for Turkey allowing a pipeline from Iran through Turkey into the EU. Everyone wins! A win, win for all and a chance for us to move into the future as one.

I reiterate the future is up to a pipeline!

In the Middle East we have been living a total lie from 9/11 on! You have not heard the truth once! Not on the events of 9/11, the Anthrax attacks which scared Congress to pass the so called Patriot Act and give Bush the abusive power he needed to attack Afghanistan for not allowing his pipeline through Afghanistan.

 The only remaining obstacle on 9-11 was the remaining agreement between the Taliban and Bridas Corporation. The Bush Administration, Congress, many in our major media, and even the 9-11 Commission and Cheney Energy Task Force all know about Bridas Corporation because that Argentine oil and gas company was standing in the way of our US oil companies and UK oil companies. The Caspian Basin oil is landlocked and there are only so many ways to get that oil out of the ground, to the ocean ports and into your gas tanks or home heating oil tanks.

What a coincidence huh? There is the direct route from Turkmenistan across Iran to the ocean, but that is not politically popular since the overthrow of the Shah of Iran many years ago. There is: 1.) the route across the Caspian Sea westward, which is extremely costly; and through Azerbaijan through Turkey to the Mediterranean; and 2.) from Turkmenistan through Georgia to the Black Sea; and 3.) through the Ukraine to Europe; and 4.) the Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the ocean. Until one of those solutions was in place, the holes being drilled into the ground by British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon and others could not go anywhere and could not produce revenues for those companies. A route northward through Russia would put US oil companies at risk to changes in Russian politics and the Eastward route through China was not deemed secure enough since China is soon to become the second largest user of petroleum in the world after the United States.

Lastly!

Many of us have said numerous times that Bush was advised before hand that if he attacked Iraq he would destabilize the Middle East. He knew before he ignored all good advice that the neighbors would get involved and they are. He knew that it was most likely that Iraq would be divvied up between the Kurds, the Sunni's, and the Shiite and it will be. In the past I have written extensively the entire Middle East would blow and then the entire world would be involved in war.

I know that both Turkey and Iran are fighting Kurds that are looking for Autonomy but never really thought that a free Kurdistan would encompass areas of Iran and Turkey as well as Iraq. Knowing the close American Kurdish relationship I really have to rethink what Bush's real goal was here after I discovered an old story. Tell me what you think!

The US needs Turkey for its Middle East policy but it is obvious the rest of the world does too. Turkey and the world are at a crossroads which way will we go!? Let Turkey join the European Union! There are drawbacks as membership would give them freedom in the rest of the member countries but it can be managed and I think there are more positives than negatives.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Turkey and Europe head to crossroads: Turkey and Europe have been at the crossroads for years look at the whole picture

Turkey and Europe head to crossroads:  Look at the whole picture; Turkey at the crossroads or in the crosshairs? 

 Turkey and Europe head to crossroads: The European Union issued a bitter progress report on its everlasting candidate Turkey last month. It was the toughest one in the last ten years,which means that for the first time in 10 years.

The 10-year rule of the Justice and Development Party (AK Parti) - the EU started to focus on the empty part of the glass. Does it mean that the credit that the EU gave to the Turkish government has started to diminish? That may not be the correct question, the picture is more complicated than that. First of all, we have to consider those ten years in two different periods:

  Islam in Turkey: Turkey, steadily since the rise of the AKP party took power in 2002, has been investing considerable resources in expanding its reach both in the Islamic and in the Western world, by the use of Islamic organizations that spread in dozens of countries and are mainly composed of Turkish-descent citizens. The web of relations and transactions between them and with Turkey are multiple and far-reaching.Part of NATO missile defense goes live : The station is located in the city of Malatya, about 400 miles southeast of the capital Ankara, and is manned by both Turkish and U.S. personnel, the spokesman said. Turkey is one of five countries that have agreed to deploy parts of the U.S.-designed defense system. Portugal, Poland, Romania and Spain have also agreed to participate. 

I remember 10 months back when Iran said as soon as the site in Turkey was on line it would be a valid target for Iran. I also just caught that Russia and the United States are pretty close to an agreement on being partners on the MDS. The only problem now is getting the US to put on paper that Russia is not a target. That should not be a problem one way or the other. Sign the damn paper.

Turkey is an up and coming Nation straddling the middle east, Europe, Islam, and the west. As such they are walking a fine line. They are serving us and the middle east well.

We just discussed this! We need Turkey, the EU needs Turkey, the world needs Turkey. However the US and the EU as you know has long frustrated Turkey. Supposedly she is turning towards Iran but while we tighten sanctions and money Iran is using Turkey to fill the void but in the end Iran as you know will go her own way and Turkey will stay with us.

I again reiterate the whole story: Turkey's future is tied to a pipeline!

It really drives me crazy but the more you research the more you realize all throughout the middle east, Georgia, Afghanistan, everywhere, all the wars and controversy can be tied back to gas and oil. Russia's interest in Iran in numerous and as such is not singular to nuclear cooperation. You might have already known Russia was also interested in Iran's gas and oil but an interesting possible relationship and cooperation just dawned on me.

I am sure you remember Russia creating a crisis recently shutting off Europe's gas and oil supply after its confrontation with Georgia, that and the fact that Turkey has long desired and endeavored to become a member of the European Union. This opens up a win, win for all involved!

* Center pin Turkey, King pin Russia, center pin Iran! Winner US, European Union, Iran, Russia, and all our union and future! Remember the missile defense shield President Obama killed as an issue by switching to the Aegis? The missile Defense shield was starting to look like a necessity with N Korea in pressing on missiles capable of carrying war heads and the ability to reach Hawaii or so we hear. Iran we still do not know about but they will not compromise their nuclear desires so with a responsible credible ally if Russia is one, the responsibility to ensure Iran's real intentions would be there's under scrutiny of course. There is room here.

** The winners in all this is everyone, but Turkey and the EU above all! Russia wants the franchise for Iran's gas and oil! Turkey is at the crossroads of the middle east and the European Union. This is a major point for compromise in all our problems! Give Russia the franchise, the EU lets Turkey join in turn for Turkey allowing a pipeline from Iran through Turkey into the EU. Everyone wins! A win, win for all and a chance for us to move into the future as one.

I reiterate the future is up to a pipeline!

In the Middle East we have been living a total lie from 9/11 on! You have not heard the truth once! Not on the events of 9/11, the Anthrax attacks which scared Congress to pass the so called Patriot Act and give Bush the abusive power he needed to attack Afghanistan for not allowing his pipeline through Afghanistan.

 The only remaining obstacle on 9-11 was the remaining agreement between the Taliban and Bridas Corporation. The Bush Administration, Congress, many in our major media, and even the 9-11 Commission and Cheney Energy Task Force all know about Bridas Corporation because that Argentine oil and gas company was standing in the way of our US oil companies and UK oil companies. The Caspian Basin oil is landlocked and there are only so many ways to get that oil out of the ground, to the ocean ports and into your gas tanks or home heating oil tanks.

What a coincidence huh? There is the direct route from Turkmenistan across Iran to the ocean, but that is not politically popular since the overthrow of the Shah of Iran many years ago. There is: 1.) the route across the Caspian Sea westward, which is extremely costly; and through Azerbaijan through Turkey to the Mediterranean; and 2.) from Turkmenistan through Georgia to the Black Sea; and 3.) through the Ukraine to Europe; and 4.) the Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the ocean. Until one of those solutions was in place, the holes being drilled into the ground by British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon and others could not go anywhere and could not produce revenues for those companies. A route northward through Russia would put US oil companies at risk to changes in Russian politics and the Eastward route through China was not deemed secure enough since China is soon to become the second largest user of petroleum in the world after the United States.

Lastly!

Many of us have said numerous times that Bush was advised before hand that if he attacked Iraq he would destabilize the Middle East. He knew before he ignored all good advice that the neighbors would get involved and they are. He knew that it was most likely that Iraq would be divvied up between the Kurds, the Sunni's, and the Shiite and it will be. In the past I have written extensively the entire Middle East would blow and then the entire world would be involved in war.

I know that both Turkey and Iran are fighting Kurds that are looking for Autonomy but never really thought that a free Kurdistan would encompass areas of Iran and Turkey as well as Iraq. Knowing the close American Kurdish relationship I really have to rethink what Bush's real goal was here after I discovered an old story. Tell me what you think!

The US needs Turkey for its Middle East policy but it is obvious the rest of the world does too. Turkey and the world are at a crossroads which way will we go!? Let Turkey join the European Union! There are drawbacks as membership would give them freedom in the rest of the member countries but it can be managed and I think there are more positives than negatives.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Croatia Votes 'Yes' to EU Membership: Why would anyone want to join the European Union?

Croatia Votes 'Yes' to EU Membership: Croatians voted Sunday in favor of joining the European Union despite a poor turnout for the referendum — a sign of how much the debt-stricken 27-nation bloc has lost its appeal within countries aspiring to join. Why on gods green earth would anyone join the EU at this point? It is like boarding a sinking ship.

Russia's Putin Says Eurasian Union May Be Created In 2015: Putin called for the creation of a Eurasian union to be built on the base of the existing Customs Union, a Russia-led trade group that also includes Belarus and Kazakhstan, in an article published in a Russian newspaper earlier this month. The call marked yet another step in Moscow's drive to rebuild economic ties among former Soviet republics.

Heads of the Russian, Belarus and Kazakh governments discussed the declaration endorsing the creation the union on Wednesday. Putin said he expected the declaration to be signed in December. Putin said in the article other countries were welcome to join the Eurasian union, which will aim to more closely coordinate the economic and currency policies of its member states. The talk of creation the Eurasian union isn't about "the recreation of the U.S.S.R.," but of building a connection between Europe and the Asia-Pacific region, Putin said.

Turkey wants to join the EU and I am more concerned for Turkey than the EU. Turkey will strengthen the EU and garner badly needed points from the Muslim world but there would be great negatives too for both the EU and Turkey.Turkey must join EU, says UK PM I agree Turkey will strengthen the EU and garner badly needed points from the Muslim world but I think there would be great negatives too and for both the EU and Turkey.

I find it very disconcerting for many reasons. The European Union is bigger than the United States and that is not a concern for many reasons not needing explaining. However I find it troubling that Russia and other USSR countries want to join with the EU knowing the fragile condition of Greece and other countries and announces other countries are welcome to join. Is this an open invitation to China? or is it to not just compete with the US but for a two fold benefit?

Of late Russia has been rebounding and has expressed more than an interest in reclaiming her former glory as has China with her reunification efforts. We remember her former glory when she tried to militarily defeat Europe. Knowing China is more than raucous in expressing her desire to rule Asia without a US presence so she can through military force impress her desires for all the uncaptured natural resources in the South and East China sea's plus all the Islands long in contention.

Russia too has her interests in this regard. What are we to think? You know, I talk often as to how concerned I am as the big three Russia, the United States, and China, jockey for position to dominate as we move through the 21st century which will only lead to war and destruction instead of jockeying for a position of peace and prosperity for all as we must if we are to avoid WW3 which we and the planet can not survive and be life sustaining as we know it as our weapons are too plentiful and deadly. What is really up here?



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Occupy the World

The Arab spring gave birth to the occupy movement which became "occupy the world"

The Occupy Wall Street movement has become a global phenomenon, spreading to more than 1,000 cities in the United States and at least 92 countries worldwide: Occupy Wall Street, a leaderless protest movement that started in New York City, has quickly become a global phenomenon. On Sept. 17, men and women of varied backgrounds and beliefs organized at New York City's Zuccotti Park in nonviolent protest.

The protestors say they represent the 99 percent and have gathered in protest with the goal of ending the greed and corruption amongst the wealthiest 1 percent of America. "This is a populist movement," New York occupier, Tony Smith, told Digital Journal. "We don't know why everyone is out of work, but the stratification between the rich and poor has grown to an alarming level, and people in poverty aren't going to stand for it much longer."

First I really have to say that I am impressed that some here are finally standing up to the corporatocracy that rules and governs this country. I am also dismayed to see them degraded as ilk and rabble rousing nay Sayers. They are speaking the truth whoever they may be and once again the truth is going to be discounted and if by force as necessary so a hidden selfish agenda can be followed.

With that said I watched the Arab spring countries thinking that we should be doing the same thing here and for exactly the same reasons. Less so in some degrees and more so in others! I was wondering what it would take to get us in the streets and now I know. However, I remember when this started on wall street a protester was interviewed and he nailed it when he said this is our Arab spring.

The movement has become a global phenomenon, spreading to more than 1,000 cities in the United States and at least 92 countries worldwide but it started with the Arab spring. The Arab spring gave birth to the occupy movement which became "occupy the world" I believe it will continue to grow unless another war possibly a world war intervenes and side tracks this movement one way or the other.

Of course the US is taking credit for starting this but as we know it was the Arab spring countries. It is however right that the US pick up the gauntlet and lead the way.

we the average citizens of every country regardless of ethnicity are fighting for the same thing. We are all fighting because we are being lied to , controlled, we have no jobs, no food, we have no future. In Yemen, Syria, and Bahrain they are being stepped on and killed.

They are protesting in Europe for the same reasons. The entire world is feeling the pinch even China who has been taking measures against its citizens for months. China as you can surmise is starting to hurt because its biggest customers the EU and the US are in trouble. I warned years ago for countries to stop wishing for the US demise because today we are all intertwined, the leader goes down we all go down.

What is happening in Europe and the Arab spring countries is now here. The weak always feel the hurt first and we have been pretty weak over the last ten years because of our grotesque governing in the first place. Average citizens of the world have hit the breaking point. The Wall street protests have spread to Boston and around the country with promises to get results.

We are all peeved. As our plight worsens at the hands of our grossly inadequate bickering mis-government even in the US the breaking point in many instances has been hit. The worlds Governments and the worlds citizens will pay the price. Anarchy is our future.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamerican.blogspot.com

Russia's Putin Says Eurasian Union May Be Created In 2015 and other countries are welcome to join:

Russia's Putin Says Eurasian Union May Be Created In 2015: Putin called for the creation of a Eurasian union to be built on the base of the existing Customs Union, a Russia-led trade group that also includes Belarus and Kazakhstan, in an article published in a Russian newspaper earlier this month. The call marked yet another step in Moscow's drive to rebuild economic ties among former Soviet republics.

Heads of the Russian, Belarus and Kazakh governments discussed the declaration endorsing the creation the union on Wednesday. Putin said he expected the declaration to be signed in December. Putin said in the article other countries were welcome to join the Eurasian union, which will aim to more closely coordinate the economic and currency policies of its member states. The talk of creation the Eurasian union isn't about "the recreation of the U.S.S.R.," but of building a connection between Europe and the Asia-Pacific region, Putin said.

I find it very disconcerting for many reasons. The European Union is bigger than the United States and that is not a concern for many reasons not needing explaining. However I find it troubling that Russia wants to join with the EU knowing the fragile condition of Greece and other countries and announces other countries are welcome to join. Is this an open invitation to China? or is it to not just compete with the US but for a two fold benefit?

Of late Russia has been rebounding and has expressed more than an interest in reclaiming her former glory as has China with her reunification efforts. We remember her former glory when she tried to militarily defeat Europe. Knowing China is more than raucous in expressing her desire to rule Asia without a US presence so she can through military force impress her desires for all the uncaptured natural resources in the South and East China sea's plus all the Islands long in contention.

Russia too has her interests in this regard. What are we to think? You know, I talk often as to how concerned I am as the big three Russia, the United States, and China, jockey for position to dominate as we move through the 21st century which will only lead to war and destruction instead of jockeying for a position of peace and prosperity for all as we must if we are to avoid WW3 which we and the planet can not survive and be life sustaining as we know it as our weapons are too plentiful and deadly.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

In pictures: Wall Street austerity and economic protests go global:

In pictures: Worldwide protests



Wall Street sit-in protest goes global: Protesters worldwide geared up for a cry of rage on Saturday against bankers, financiers and politicians they accuse of ruining global economies and condemning millions to poverty and hardship through greed.
Galvanized by the past month's Occupy Wall Street movement, the global protest began on a sunny spring day in New Zealand and is due to ripple round the world to Alaska via Frankfurt, London, Washington and New York.

Many Europeans spent Saturday showing solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York, by answering the call for a day of protests against economic injustice and government cuts. In the European Union’s capital Brussels, around 7,000 people demonstrated against austerity measures and corporate greed. Some of them were outside a branch of Dexia, the Belgian-French financial institution that recently received a four billion euro bailout.

Protesters also gathered in Madrid’s Puerta del Sol plaza, a site significant for Spain’s Indignados, whose aims were also being supported through worldwide protests on Saturday. At the height of the Indignado campaign, the plaza was a campsite for demonstrators calling for the government to deal with unemployment and stop welfare cuts.

Of course the US is taking credit for starting this but as we know it was the Arab spring countries. It is however right that the US pick up the gauntlet and lead the way.

we the average citizens of every country regardless of ethnicity are fighting for the same thing. We are all fighting because we are being lied to , controlled, we have no jobs, no food, we have no future. In Yemen, Syria, and Bahrain they are being stepped on and killed.

They are protesting in Europe for the same reasons. The entire world is feeling the pinch even China who has been taking measures against its citizens for months. China as you can surmise is starting to hurt because its biggest customers the EU and the US are in trouble. I warned years ago for countries to stop wishing for the US demise because today we are all intertwined, the leader goes down we all go down.

What is happening in Europe and the Arab spring countries will happen here. The weak always feel the hurt first and we have been pretty weak over the last ten years because of our grotesque governing in the first place. Average citizens of the world have hit the breaking point. The Wall street protests have spread to Boston and around the country with promises to get results.

We are all peeved. As our plight worsens at the hands of our grossly inadequate bickering mis-government even in the US the breaking point in many instances has been hit. The worlds Governments and the worlds citizens will pay the price. Anarchy is our future.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamerican.blogspot.com

No global warming? 2010 will be the hottest year on record! Can anyone say water wars?

NASA: First half of 2010 breaks the thermometer — despite “recent recent minimum of solar irradiance” 

It still seems likely that 2010 will be the hottest year on record, ... Also, on Thursday, Sudan recorded its hottest temperature in its history when the ... July 10, 2010 at 6:52 pm. Sunspots activity is at a record low – and has .... Six months later they set the all time rainfall record there. Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Chad, Niger, Pakistan, and Myanmar have all set new records for their hottest temperatures of all time over the past six weeks.

The Asian portion of Russia recorded its highest temperate in history yesterday, when the mercury hit 42.3°C (108.1°F) near the Amur River border with China. The previous record was 41.7°C (107.1°F) at nearby Aksha on July 21, 2004. (The record for European Russia is 43.8°C–110.8°F–set on August 6, 1940, at Alexandrov Gaj near the border with Kazakhstan.) Also, on Thursday, Sudan recorded its hottest temperature in its history when the mercury rose to 49.6°C (121.3°F) at Dongola. The previous record was 49.5°C (121.1°F) set in July 1987 in Aba Hamed.

We’ve now had eight countries in Asia and Africa, plus the Asian portion of Russia, that have beaten their all-time hottest temperature record during the past two months. This includes Asia’s hottest temperature of all-time, the astonishing 53.5°C (128.3°F) mark set on May 26 in Pakistan…. This week’s heat wave in Africa and the Middle East is partially a consequence of the fact that Earth has now seen three straight months with its warmest temperatures on record, according to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center.

At the same time we’ve just had the 500-year deluges in Oklahoma City and China and Tennessee’s 1000-year deluge. Dan's Wild Wild Science Journal » Blog Archive » NOAA: First 6 Months of 2010- Hottest On Record.

The first six months of this year have been the hottest in recorded history, weather experts have said. Heat wave across Europe! The figures have been released after a heat wave in the UK and soaring temperatures have put large parts of Europe, from Italy to Russia, on alert.The scientists said that while rising mercury has been typical across the globe in recent months, the most prominent high temperatures have been seen in Peru, the central and eastern parts of the US and western Asia.

The report was published as the US Senate prepares to debate a climate and clean energy bill later this month. Climate change is not some abstract phenomenon that will affect us sometime in the distant future as many want you to think. "It is happening now and its impacts are being felt across the country in the form of record-shattering heat waves, flooding rains, persistent droughts and other extreme weather events.

"The changes we are already experiencing are not just causing uncomfortable living conditions for Americans. "They are threatening human health, destroying our natural heritage, jeopardizing our agriculture industry and putting our economy and national security at risk." 2010 Temperatures: First Six Months Of This Year Hottest On Record

We have discussed this often but besides climate change and pollution can anyone say Growing world wide water wars?



James Joiner

Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Medvedev moving the world forward with food

  

We can thank Obama's reset button: Russia wants  new alliances with the United States and the European Union to stimulate trade and investment in one of his boldest foreign policy statements.

Signs of a new softer foreign policy toward the West have been growing since the global financial crisis exposed Russia's dependence on oil and gas exports, highlighting the need for an influx of foreign capital and technology. Whatever it is that brings us together does not matter. That we do is crucial to all our future. Medvedev made the country's modernization one of the pillars of his presidency, and there was a notable shift from the Cold-war era anti-Western statements of his predecessor Vladimir Putin to sweet-talking foreign partners and investors.

I am so glad the war mongers Bush and Putin are gone! Medvedev of course is right" "We need special alliances for modernization...first of all with Germany, France, Italy, the EU in general, and with the United States," he said during a speech to Russian ambassadors that takes place in Moscow every two years. The center of Medvedev's foreign policy has been a "reset" of relations with the United States, which had deteriorated in recent years, culminating in the signing of a major new nuclear arms control treaty in April.

EU to Russia: modernize We want 'fast forward', not 'reset'! They are listening, we have unity!



Obama is being credited and discredited for changing course on the MDS ( missile defense shield) and going with the Aegis system. We are told Russia has been emboldened and are taking advantage of their new power and a weakened America but I do not see it that way.

It just keeps getting better and we keep hearing from the war mongers on the right that we gave Russia the farm and screwed America and Europe. Quite the opposite is true! This is a win for everyone! Russia now knows they are not the target and have started being productive partners. All of Europe are winners as Russia's nukes will not be turned on them. The reset button has obviously been reset and we are seeing positive results from it every day. The latest: - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called on Monday for the formation of new alliances with the United States and the European Union to stimulate trade and investment in one of his boldest foreign policy statements. Yeah!

Ukraine leader wants quicker pace towards Europe

Europe interested in good Russian-Ukrainian relations - Yanukovych

Russia is not going to deploy Iskander missile systems in Kaliningrad region as a response to the deployment of the U.S. Patriot missile along the border in Poland, the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Wednesday.” Currently there are no intentions to deploy the Iskanders since the American Patriot missiles are the part of anti-aircraft defense, not anti-missile one, Russia not to deploy missiles due to US missiles deployed in Poland There would have been threats of war if this was the war monger Bush!

Russia will press the European Union to scrap visas for its citizens and seek the EU's help in modernizing its economy at a two-day summit beginning Monday. Russia seeks EU's help

I just love this obvious cooperation. It is a welcome change after Bush and Cheney's unilateral my way or the highway war mongering. This I am sure is all only possible because of Nobel peace prize winner President Obama pressing the reset button with Russia.


James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

We can thank Obama's reset button: Ukraine takes role to unite Russia and Europe plans bid for 2022 Winter Olympics

EU to Russia: modernize We want 'fast forward', not 'reset'!


Obama is being credited and discredited for changing course on the MDS ( missile defense shield) and going with the Aegis system. We are told Russia has been emboldened and are taking advantage of their new power and a weakened America but I do not see it that way.

We keep hearing from the war mongers on the right that we gave Russia the farm and screwed America and Europe. Quite the opposite is true! This is a win for everyone! Russia now knows they are not the target and have started being productive partners. All of Europe are winners as Russia's nukes will not be turned on them. The reset button has obviously been reset and we are seeing positive results from it every day. The latest:

Ukraine leader wants quicker pace towards Europe

Europe interested in good Russian-Ukrainian relations - Yanukovych

Ukraine plans bid for 2022 Winter Olympics

Russia is not going to deploy Iskander missile systems in Kaliningrad region as a response to the deployment of the U.S. Patriot missile along the border in Poland, the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Wednesday.” Currently there are no intentions to deploy the Iskanders since the American Patriot missiles are the part of anti-aircraft defense, not anti-missile one, Russia not to deploy missiles due to US missiles deployed in Poland There would have been threats of war if this was the war monger Bush!

Russia will press the European Union to scrap visas for its citizens and seek the EU's help in modernizing its economy at a two-day summit beginning Monday. Russia seeks EU's help

I just love this obvious cooperation. It is a welcome change after Bush and Cheney's unilateral my way or the highway war mongering. This I am sure is all only possible because of Nobel peace prize winner President Obama pressing the reset button with Russia.


James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Turkey on the crossroad or in the crosshairs? Turkey asks Germany for help if EU bid stalls

Turkey asks Germany for help if EU bid stalls

We just discussed this! We need Turkey, the EU needs Turkey, the world needs Turkey. However the US and the EU as you know has long frustrated Turkey. Supposedly she is turning towards Iran but while we tighten sanctions and money Iran is using Turkey to fill the void but in the end Iran as you know will go her own way and Turkey will stay with us.

I again reiterate the whole story: Turkey's future is tied to a pipeline!
It really drives me crazy but the more you research the more you realize all throughout the middle east, Georgia, Afghanistan, everywhere, all the wars and controversy can be tied back to gas and oil. Russia's interest in Iran in numerous and as such is not singular to nuclear cooperation. You might have already known Russia was also interested in Iran's gas and oil but an interesting possible relationship and cooperation just dawned on me.

I am sure you remember Russia creating a crisis recently shutting off Europe's gas and oil supply after its confrontation with Georgia, that and the fact that Turkey has long desired and endeavored to become a member of the European Union. This opens up a win, win for all involved!

* Center pin Turkey, King pin Russia, center pin Iran! Winner US, European Union, Iran, Russia, and all our union and future! Remember the missile defense shield President Obama killed as an issue by switching to the Aegis? The missile Defense shield was starting to look like a necessity with N Korea in pressing on missiles capable of carrying war heads and the ability to reach Hawaii or so we hear. Iran we still do not know about but they will not compromise their nuclear desires so with a responsible credible ally if Russia is one, the responsibility to ensure Iran's real intentions would be there's under scrutiny of course. There is room here.

** The winners in all this is everyone, but Turkey and the EU above all! Russia wants the franchise for Iran's gas and oil! Turkey is at the crossroads of the middle east and the European Union. This is a major point for compromise in all our problems! Give Russia the franchise, the EU lets Turkey join in turn for Turkey allowing a pipeline from Iran through Turkey into the EU. Everyone wins! A win, win for all and a chance for us to move into the future as one.

I reiterate the future is up to a pipeline!

In the Middle East we have been living a total lie from 9/11 on! You have not heard the truth once! Not on the events of 9/11, the Anthrax attacks which scared Congress to pass the so called Patriot Act and give Bush the abusive power he needed to attack Afghanistan for not allowing his pipeline through Afghanistan. The only remaining obstacle on 9-11 was the remaining agreement between the Taliban and Bridas Corporation. The Bush Administration, Congress, many in our major media, and even the 9-11 Commission and Cheney Energy Task Force all know about Bridas Corporation because that Argentine oil and gas company was standing in the way of our US oil companies and UK oil companies. The Caspian Basin oil is landlocked and there are only so many ways to get that oil out of the ground, to the ocean ports and into your gas tanks or home heating oil tanks.

What a coincidence huh? There is the direct route from Turkmenistan across Iran to the ocean, but that is not politically popular since the overthrow of the Shah of Iran many years ago. There is: 1.) the route across the Caspian Sea westward, which is extremely costly; and through Azerbaijan through Turkey to the Mediterranean; and 2.) from Turkmenistan through Georgia to the Black Sea; and 3.) through the Ukraine to Europe; and 4.) the Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the ocean. Until one of those solutions was in place, the holes being drilled into the ground by British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon and others could not go anywhere and could not produce revenues for those companies. A route northward through Russia would put US oil companies at risk to changes in Russian politics and the Eastward route through China was not deemed secure enough since China is soon to become the second largest user of petroleum in the world after the United States.

Lastly!

Many of us have said numerous times that Bush was advised before hand that if he attacked Iraq he would destabilize the Middle East. He knew before he ignored all good advice that the neighbors would get involved and they are. He knew that it was most likely that Iraq would be divvied up between the Kurds, the Sunni's, and the Shiite and it will be. In the past I have written extensively the entire Middle East would blow and then the entire world would be involved in war.

I know that both Turkey and Iran are fighting Kurds that are looking for Autonomy but never really thought that a free Kurdistan would encompass areas of Iran and Turkey as well as Iraq. Knowing the close American Kurdish relationship I really have to rethink what Bush's real goal was here after I discovered an old story. Tell me what you think!

Kurdistan Observer: A Free Kurdistan! Recent nuances and nudges in government policy as well as tacit support for the most obscene anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism by the ruling political party of Turkey ought to cause the United States to begin to rethink its comprehensive policy toward Asia in general and toward one non-Arab minority in Iraq in particular: the Kurds. What, today, is the most intractable political problem in Iraq? It is the very real political and religious aims of Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish regions of the nation. Since the inception of Operation Iraqi Freedom, President Bush maintained that the unity of the nation of Iraq was non-negotiable. In politics and in war, however, nothing should be non-negotiable.

This sounds vaguely familiar but Iraq is not a nation in any real sense, it was rather three separate concentration camps each with differing degrees of oppression. An answer? Maybe but there are numerous counties involved and they all want their answer as a result there will be none I am afraid because peace and prosperity is not the goal but getting ones way and individual National Sovereignty is!

The US needs Turkey for its Middle East policy but it is obvious the rest of the world does too. Turkey and the world are at a crossroads which way will we go!? Let Turkey join the European Union! There are drawbacks as membership would give them freedom in the rest of the member countries but it can be managed and I think there are more positives than negatives.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Turkey's moves towards Iran disconcerting United States: Can President Barack Obama still count on Turkey? Yes he can!

Turkey's moves towards Iran concerning United States

Can President Barack Obama still count on Turkey?

We just discussed this! We need Turkey, the EU needs Turkey, the world needs Turkey. However the US and the EU as you know has long frustrated Turkey. Supposedly she is turning towards Iran but while we tighten sanctions and money Iran is using Turkey to fill the void but in the end Iran as you know will go her own way and Turkey will stay with us.

I again reiterate the whole story: Turkey's future is tied to a pipeline!
It really drives me crazy but the more you research the more you realize all throughout the middle east, Georgia, Afghanistan, everywhere, all the wars and controversy can be tied back to gas and oil. Russia's interest in Iran in numerous and as such is not singular to nuclear cooperation. You might have already known Russia was also interested in Iran's gas and oil but an interesting possible relationship and cooperation just dawned on me.

I am sure you remember Russia creating a crisis recently shutting off Europe's gas and oil supply after its confrontation with Georgia, that and the fact that Turkey has long desired and endeavored to become a member of the European Union. This opens up a win, win for all involved!

* Center pin Turkey, King pin Russia, center pin Iran! Winner US, European Union, Iran, Russia, and all our union and future! Remember the missile defense shield President Obama killed as an issue by switching to the Aegis? The missile Defense shield was starting to look like a necessity with N Korea in pressing on missiles capable of carrying war heads and the ability to reach Hawaii or so we hear. Iran we still do not know about but they will not compromise their nuclear desires so with a responsible credible ally if Russia is one, the responsibility to ensure Iran's real intentions would be there's under scrutiny of course. There is room here.

** The winners in all this is everyone, but Turkey and the EU above all! Russia wants the franchise for Iran's gas and oil! Turkey is at the crossroads of the middle east and the European Union. This is a major point for compromise in all our problems! Give Russia the franchise, the EU lets Turkey join in turn for Turkey allowing a pipeline from Iran through Turkey into the EU. Everyone wins! A win, win for all and a chance for us to move into the future as one.

I reiterate the future is up to a pipeline!

In the Middle East we have been living a total lie from 9/11 on! You have not heard the truth once! Not on the events of 9/11, the Anthrax attacks which scared Congress to pass the so called Patriot Act and give Bush the abusive power he needed to attack Afghanistan for not allowing his pipeline through Afghanistan. The only remaining obstacle on 9-11 was the remaining agreement between the Taliban and Bridas Corporation. The Bush Administration, Congress, many in our major media, and even the 9-11 Commission and Cheney Energy Task Force all know about Bridas Corporation because that Argentine oil and gas company was standing in the way of our US oil companies and UK oil companies. The Caspian Basin oil is landlocked and there are only so many ways to get that oil out of the ground, to the ocean ports and into your gas tanks or home heating oil tanks.

What a coincidence huh? There is the direct route from Turkmenistan across Iran to the ocean, but that is not politically popular since the overthrow of the Shah of Iran many years ago. There is: 1.) the route across the Caspian Sea westward, which is extremely costly; and through Azerbaijan through Turkey to the Mediterranean; and 2.) from Turkmenistan through Georgia to the Black Sea; and 3.) through the Ukraine to Europe; and 4.) the Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the ocean. Until one of those solutions was in place, the holes being drilled into the ground by British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon and others could not go anywhere and could not produce revenues for those companies. A route northward through Russia would put US oil companies at risk to changes in Russian politics and the Eastward route through China was not deemed secure enough since China is soon to become the second largest user of petroleum in the world after the United States.

Lastly!

Many of us have said numerous times that Bush was advised before hand that if he attacked Iraq he would destabilize the Middle East. He knew before he ignored all good advice that the neighbors would get involved and they are. He knew that it was most likely that Iraq would be divvied up between the Kurds, the Sunni's, and the Shiite and it will be. In the past I have written extensively the entire Middle East would blow and then the entire world would be involved in war. I know that both Turkey and Iran are fighting Kurds that are looking for Autonomy but never really thought that a free Kurdistan would encompass areas of Iran and Turkey as well as Iraq. Knowing the close American Kurdish relationship I really have to rethink what Bush's real goal was here after I discovered an old story. Tell me what you think!

Kurdistan Observer: A Free Kurdistan! Recent nuances and nudges in government policy as well as tacit support for the most obscene anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism by the ruling political party of Turkey ought to cause the United States to begin to rethink its comprehensive policy toward Asia in general and toward one non-Arab minority in Iraq in particular: the Kurds. What, today, is the most intractable political problem in Iraq? It is the very real political and religious aims of Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish regions of the nation. Since the inception of Operation Iraqi Freedom, President Bush has maintained that the unity of the nation of Iraq was non-negotiable. In politics and in war, however, nothing should be non-negotiable.

This sounds vaguely familiar but Iraq is not a nation in any real sense, it was rather three separate concentration camps each with differing degrees of oppression. An answer? Maybe but there are numerous counties involved and they all want their answer as a result there will be none I am afraid because peace and prosperity is not the goal but getting ones way and individual National Sovereignty is!

The US needs Turkey for its Middle East policy but it is obvious the rest of the world does too. Turkey and the world are at a crossroads which way will we go!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

Latest events: missile Defense System and its Purpose of Instigating Confrontation is working!

We have had an ongoing discussion of the missile defense system as events between Russia and Bush change step by step. The last was July 2nd and events are moving ever rapidly towards the desired end of open confrontation. People must see by now what is happening hear and the way this to will end. I have heard many opinions varying from them being useless to the point that even if they had a 99% success ratio that against a limited attack it would ensure mutual destruction.
It is serving the purpose I thought which was to instigate future confrontation so Bush could progress with his new world order. I have been trying to get people to realize that Bush is following the 19th century Russian Doctrine of destruction where you must break down existing order before you can replace it with your new order. That means war! http://www.anaveragepatriot.com/downloads/Manuscript2.pdf
Certainly everyone must see what has occurred around the world. Bush will not stop. Anyway, Putin did make another brilliant move but Bush will ignore it amidst threats that Russia will move its missiles to the Polish Chezh borders.
An antiterrorism bond forged after the Sept. 11 attacks has been chipped at repeatedly. Disputes developed over the Iraq war, missile defense plans, the fate of democracy in Russia, NATO expansion to Russia's doorstep and sniping over what each side views as meddling in former Soviet republics. look at the list! I am sure we can go on and on and on but every single one of those problems is caused by little Georgie.
At a summit last month of world economic powers, Putin surprised Bush by proposing that the system instead use an old Soviet-era radar facility in Azerbaijan instead of the Czech and Polish sites. It is an idea that US officials do not want to reject outright. But they have concluded it would not work as a substitute, only perhaps as an early warning supplemental component. At the lobster summit Putin dropped a couple more surprises on Bush. He said flat out that he did not want the systems in Poland and Czechoslovakia but wanted them somewhere that was friendlier to Russia. That makes sense! He suggested that the missile defense systems be housed on Russian soil. Wow, that is provocative but that sounds vaguely familiar to me? Anyway Putin proposed transforming U.S. plans for an Eastern European missile shield into a broader system that would incorporate a radar system in southern Russia and bring more European nations into the decision-making process.
I think that is a great idea and once again puts Bush on the spot. My thought is that all along Putin has out played Bush in this Political gamesmanship as Putin points out that, that would put the relationship between our two countries on an entirely new level. Personally I like that idea and if it was wanted then it is possible. I have to ask why is Bush so insistent that the Czech Republic and Poland need to be an integral part of the system. http://www.cnn.com/...
The latest events: Russia's First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov says the term "Cold War" will be forgotten if the United States accepts his country's missile-defense plan for Europe. But Ivanov is also threatening to deploy Russian missiles near Poland if Washington rejects the Kremlin offer. VOA Moscow Correspondent Peter Fedynsky reports. You know damn well Bush will ignore it as he has to in order to instigate war and his new order.
Speaking to reporters in Tashkent, the capital of Uzbekistan, First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov said Russia will cancel plans to deploy missiles in its Kaliningrad enclave if the United States accepts a Kremlin plan for a European missile-defense system. The Russian Baltic enclave is surrounded by Poland and Lithuania, both NATO members.
Ivanov's statement carries the implied threat of an arms race in response to an American plan to deploy missiles in Poland and a radar installation in the Czech Republic. The United States says the system would guard against a possible attack by Iran. Ivanov says his country's proposal is better for NATO than America's.
I have to agree when Ivanov says that Russia together with the NATO allies can create a system that would defend not just some NATO members, but all of them. http://voanews.com/english/2007-07-04-voa23.cfm
It will not happen because Bush does not want cooperation but as the past has shown, needs instigation and direct confrontation in order to continue his new world order. We must continue to spread the word and try to stop this egomaniac!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

Azerbaijan has now been laid on the table in the supposed MDS Controversey between Bush and Putin!

We have been following the events for quite a while now as tensions ratchet up between Bush and his friend Putin. The worlds attention seems to have been purposely focused on what they think is a battle between Putin and Bush over the proposed MDS. As you know, in response to Bush's insistence on putting the missile shield in Russia's yard Putin has announced dropping its compliance with Europe on the conventional weapons treaty. Most recently they have developed an ICBM capable of circumventing the missile defense system and threatened to retarget Europe with its missiles.
In light of a conversation I had with someone here and what transpired yesterday I am rethinking the real role of the Missile Defense System and who the real target is! Amidst tit for tat threats from Russia and the U.S. we had Bush brag that Russia will not attack Europe. You have to wonder what if anything Bush knows? I believe the supposed rift between Bush and Putin is a Ruse. China is the real hidden target!
Besides an offer in the past to allow Russian inspection of the systems and a turned down offer by Russia to house the MDS,The United States now says it will study any ideas Russia has to allay its concerns that a planned U.S. missile defense shield in eastern Europe will herald a larger future deployment, a top Pentagon official said on Tuesday. Now this offer by Putin makes me believe I was right about China being the real target.
The proposal by Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman was the most explicit offer yet by a top U.S. official to address Russia's fears that planned missile interceptor and radar sites in Poland and the Czech Republic could be expanded.
"We are prepared to talk about that and entertain proposals from them, if they have them, about measures of transparency and openness that would help assuage those concerns -- whether there are other steps we might take," Edelman told Reuters. http://www.alertnet.org/... that was until Putin's latest proposal while at the G8.
I am really starting to second guess my original thought that Bush was provoking a confrontation with Russia in light of what Russia mentioned last week and China said two days ago. Putin mentioned that China had not been heard from and had as much to be concerned about as Russia as they were within range and in the path. China if I remember has its concerns with the MDS and that they could be used to protect Taiwan. well yesterday that changed and now I have to rethink what someone here said about China.
China has added its voice to Russian concerns over a proposed US missile defense system based in Europe, saying it could trigger an arms race. Commenting on the US plans a spokeswomen for the Chinese foreign ministry said proposed interceptor shield had "aroused great concern and attention.
"China believes that the impact of a missile defense system on strategic defense and stability is not conducive to mutual trust of major nations and regional security," Jiang Yu told reporters. "It may also give rise to a proliferation problem."
http://english.aljazeera.net/...
Now we have Putin catching everybody by surprise. This latest offer is amazing to me and I would like to hear what you have to say about it. I mean this is brilliant.
Vladimir Putin, bitterly opposed to a U.S. missile shield in Europe, presented President Bush with a surprise counterproposal Thursday built around a Soviet-era radar system in Azerbaijan rather than new defenses in Poland and the Czech Republic. Bush said it was an interesting suggestion and promised to consider it.
Putin's formula would force a major rethinking of U.S. plans for defending Europe against attack from hostile regimes such as Iran or North Korea. While outright acceptance of Putin's idea appeared doubtful, the White House seemed eager to avoid further inflaming tensions by giving it short shrift. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4871376.html
Knowing the untapped oil reserves in Azerbaijan and its proximity to Iran I would say this takes the wind out of many theories and really begins to make what is really going on here more obvious. Learn about Azerbaijan: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/aj.html
Amidst mutual accusations between Russia and the U.S. we have Russia being offered to get involved with the MDS we have many new developments. With China piping up I now have to give credence to the thought that the end result of all this saber rattling is that the US and Russia would be together to keep the third world power Wannabe's in their place. Is China the real target? Sounds feasable to me. In light of Russia's desire to be a power to reckon with once more and China's military and technology buildup What are your thoughts on this possibility?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

With Mutual threats from Russia and Bush and MDS ideas sought from Russia, China pipes up, What if?

With mutual threats from Russia and Bush and MDS ideas sought from Russia, China pipes up, Remember this Conversation on China?
We have been following the events for quite a while now as tensions ratchet up between Bush and his friend Putin. As you know, in response to Bush's insistence on putting the missile shield in Russia's yard Putin has announced dropping its compliance with Europe on the conventional weapons treaty. Most recently they have developed an ICBM capable of circumventing the missile defense system and threatened to retarget Europe with its missiles.
In light of a conversation I had with someone here and what transpired yesterday I am rethinking the real role of the Missile Defense System and who the real target is! Amidst tit for tat threats from Russia and the U.S. we had Bush brag that Russia will not attack Europe. You have to wonder what if anything Bush knows?
Besides an offer in the past to allow Russian inspection of the systems The United States will study any ideas Russia has to allay its concerns that a planned U.S. missile defense shield in eastern Europe will herald a larger future deployment, a top Pentagon official said on Tuesday.
The proposal by Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman was the most explicit offer yet by a top U.S. official to address Russia's fears that planned missile interceptor and radar sites in Poland and the Czech Republic could be expanded.
"We are prepared to talk about that and entertain proposals from them, if they have them, about measures of transparency and openness that would help assuage those concerns -- whether there are other steps we might take," Edelman told Reuters.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L05846815.htm
I am really starting to second guess my original thought that Bush was provoking a confrontation with Russia in light of what Russia mentioned last week and China said yesterday. Putin mentioned that China had not been heard from and had as much to be concerned about as Russia as they were within range and in the path. China if I remember has its concerns with the MDS and that they could be used to protect Taiwan. well yesterday that changed and now I have to rethink what someone here said about China.
China has added its voice to Russian concerns over a proposed US missile defense system based in Europe, saying it could trigger an arms race. Commenting on the US plans a spokeswomen for the Chinese foreign ministry said proposed interceptor shield had "aroused great concern and attention.
"China believes that the impact of a missile defense system on strategic defense and stability is not conducive to mutual trust of major nations and regional security," Jiang Yu told reporters. "It may also give rise to a proliferation problem."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FDB70111-BE99-4574-B60E-7A51A9AE9E19.htm
Amidst mutual accusations between Russia and the U.S. we have Russia being offered to get involved with the MDS which is a new development. With China piping up I now have to give credence to the thought that the end result of all this saber rattling is that the US and Russia would be together to keep the third world power Wannabe's in their place. Is China the real target? Sounds feasable to me. In light of Russia's desire to be a power to reckon with once more and China's military and technology buildup What are your thoughts on this possibility?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com