Saturday, January 29, 2011

Mid-East: Will there be a domino effect? Yes all the way to the US: Anarchy the worlds future

Mid-East: Will there be a domino effect? Absolutely!

Security and the collapsing state

Tunisia Pursues Deposed President Tunisia's interim government issued an international arrest warrant for deposed President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali and his wife on charges of illegal enrichment, Justice Minister Lazhar Karoui Chebbi said.

Egypt, protester morale up

Inspired by Tunisia and Egypt, Yemenis join in anti-government protests

Thousands Protest Against Government in Yemen demanding an end to Saleh rule

Baghdad a car bomb kills 37 at funeral  Fed-up Iraqis attack, curse security forces

Five years ago I began having numerous discussions on many important issues facing our country and all were pointed towards this subject. With that in mind I had a real confusion of thoughts as to how to talk about this knowing what is happening in America with our societal degradation, increased homelessness, increased job loss, record cop killings, and concern of societal unrest over an increasingly dire situation for many.

My first thought as to our troops training for inner city fighting was not for Iraq and Afghanistan as the below report states but right here in the good old USA. The training is in a mock city the size of San Diego that includes a circular town center, a hospital district and a full-scale soccer stadium where troops can land helicopters. Base officials have also applied what they call an immersive training technique to bring the city to life:

About 1,000 role players interact with training Marines, even shifting allegiances or their level of support for the U.S. to reflect possible real-world scenarios. Many buildings are furnished. One block of hotels had curtains in the windows, signs, and vintage computers on the desks.This is supposed to represent a typical town in Iraq and Afghanistan and I could be wrong but computers? curtains? blocks of hotels? Sounds like America to me. US Troops get urban combat training in massive mock city

We have had many discussions as to the secret meetings on Martial law if it became a necessity to declare martial law in the event of massive civil unrest over the economy and overall living conditions and unhappiness with the Government. We have had many discussions about the FEMA concentration camps that are supposedly in case we are over run by illegal immigrants. At one time the Democrats figured they would be in them then the tea partiers thought they were for them.

Watching the unrest in the world today in the Middle East and Africa over corrupt Government, lack of jobs and food and knowing that the poorer countries which happen to be predominantly Muslim will be the first to fall apart and rebel in the streets as they are and eventually this degradation and anarchy will take over America and the rest of the so called civilized world too I have thoughts of Posse Comitatus

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. In late 2006, Congress revised the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act to make it far easier for a president to declare martial law.

Knowing all this I would like your input on what you think about US troops training for inner city training now especially when we are supposed to be getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan! I remember in 2005 discussing US troops training in and being used in our cities but seeing what is happening around the world with growing break downs and growing civil unrest what do you think about it now knowing we are not?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


One Fly said...

I think what you have been writing about all this time Jim may be coming together and I'm sure you are not wearing a smile of smugness.

Below is a link with a go around I had with the head of the Iowa National Guard and urban training.

Vigilante said...

Let's keep in mind that we are currently living under the Dictatorship of the Corporatariat. A general strike may be in store for us.

an average patriot said...

Thanks for the link Tom! I know, it is all coming true. I just now prepared something for tomorrow but I want to keep updating as it changes. This isn't good because we aren't smart enough to get the hell out of the area.

an average patriot said...

Hi Vig! Yeah I would have to say they will do well regardless.Seeing what is happening in the Middle East and the fact that our military is heavily vested in the area makes me very nervous.

Demeur said...

Hold on guys. Before you go all Jessie Ventura on me let me throw in a few facts. These are from the actual FEMA documents and laws just passed a while back.

After 911 and Katrina hit FEMA and many other agencies realized that our responses were less than adequate. There was the communications problems with police and fire and in general no real program to establish a chain of command in the event of an emergency. It's taken them 5 years to come up with a plan and get the people trained (yours truly here included). The plan is by far not perfect but it is a starting point. Because if you think about it for a second. Exactly what would you expect in a natural disaster like an earthquake, flood or hurricane? We saw what happened after Katrina. What exactly would you do with a couple of hundred thousand displaced people?
This was all laid out in a public document that the tea bag crowd thought were internment camps. It the same reason they were able to sell the "death panel" bull shit.
As for the training our military tends to train to the conditions they may face. They trained in the swamps of the Carolinas during Vietnam. We just did a joint naval training with the South Koreans.
So please take off the tin foil hats.

an average patriot said...

Demeur the concern is that with so much turmoil around the world and the eroding standards here the laws have been set to take control if need be. I remember when they had the so called secret meetings in Congress in 2006 Senators were so horrified they all went to the mikes. I just went to find info I used before and you can still buy the books but the videos and information was all unavailable. Also the time for training in cities like those in Iraq ans Afghanistan was 10 years ago not now when we are pulling out.