Wednesday, November 28, 2007

Yesterdays effort to divide and conquer the middle east will succeed and is bearing quick fruit as Arabs and Ahmadinejad react!


Bush the Destroyer: I talk often about Bush's use of Rove taught 3D Politics ( divisive, deceptive, deceitful, Politics) to achieve his goals. You know in the U.S that is new societal order and in the middle east he wants to create a new middle east order. Trying to achieve these will provide the impetus to pursue his desired new world order.We have been saying for quite a while that Bush has sped up the fall of the United States. It was headed the way of the Roman Empire but Bush sped up the process. I have also said many times that Bush is following the 19th century Russian Doctrine of Destruction and must create disorder before he can come to the rescue with his new order.

Yesterday it dawned on me that the middle east peace conference may bring Palestine and Israel together but beyond a shadow of a doubt it will prove only to set up the division in the middle east necessary for Bush to pursue his and Israel's plan for new middle east order providing the buffer zone Israel is after. It was no surprise to me that Syria was at the meeting as they are neighbors and it behooves them to at least show up and feign cooperation.
Look at this and think about the big picture in the middle east.
Bush: "We meet to lay the foundation for the establishment of a new nation -- a democratic Palestinian state that will live side by side with Israel in peace and security. "We meet to help bring an end to the violence that has been the true enemy of the aspirations of both the Israelis and Palestinians. We're off to a strong start."

Abbas: "I would ... like to speak to the citizens of Israel on this exceptional occasion to tell them: Our neighbors on this small piece of land, neither you nor we are begging for peace from one another. Peace is a common interest of yours and ours. Peace and freedom are our rights just as peace and security are your rights and ours. It is time that the cycle of bloodshed, violence and occupation end." "The exceptional opportunity that the Arab, Islamic and international presence brings today coupled with overwhelming Palestinian and Israeli public opinion in support of Annapolis, must be seized in order to be a launching pad for a negotiations process."

Olmert: "I have no doubt that the reality created in our region in 1967 will change significantly. While this will be an extremely difficult process for many of us, it is nevertheless inevitable. I know it. Many of my people know it. We are ready for it." "We want peace. We demand an end to terror, incitement and hatred. We are willing to make a painful compromise, rife with risks in order to realize these aspirations." "There is no Muslim state with which we do not want to establish diplomatic relations. Anyone who wants peace with us, we say to them, from the bottom of our hearts, 'Ahalan Wa'Sahlan' (Welcome)."
Quotes from Annapolis
Today the expected reaction: Arab commentators on Wednesday dismissed the relaunch of Israeli-Palestinian talks as a U.S.-staged media event unlikely to lead to Middle East peace. Some argued that U.S. President George W. Bush's real aim in convening Tuesday's conference in Annapolis, Maryland, was to rescue his image after failures in Iraq and Afghanistan, or to persuade Arab states their deadliest foe was Iran, not Israel.

"The failure of Annapolis is now clear. (President Mahmoud) Abbas will return to Palestine without anything," said Essam el-Erian, a senior leader in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood. Lebanon's former telecommunications minister Essam Noman, writing in the opposition al-Akhbar newspaper, said the United States had succeeded in "dragging the Arabs to a diplomatic talkfest". Ghassan Charbel, editor of the London-based Al-Hayat daily, said Arab states had gone to Annapolis without illusions.

I have to agree with them because they are right on. They got the message that Bush thinks he is the policeman of the middle east, is responsible for their safety and stability, and that Iran is their enemy not Israel. They know just the opposite. They know Bush will not press Israel as he is all for them.
Has Bush ever succeeded in dividing the middle east: Mohamed al-Sayed Said, deputy director of Cairo's Al-Ahram Centre for Political and Strategic Studies, queried Bush's understanding of the Middle East and his commitment to peace. "He is totally biased toward Israel and in his speech explained the maladies of the region only by reference to what he considered fanatics or extremists," Said said.

Saudi Arabia refused to shake hands with Israel and Syria was only there to demand the Golan Heights back. Syrians and Arabs are not optimistic and they should not be. Arabs doubt Annapolis conference
Ahmadinejad throws his venom in too: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday that the U.S.-brokered Mideast peace conference was a "failure" and that Israel is doomed to "collapse," lashing out at the Annapolis gathering that many saw as aimed at isolating Iran. "It is impossible that the Zionist regime will survive. Collapse is in the nature of this regime because it has been created on aggression, lying, oppression and crime," Ahmadinejad said after a Cabinet meeting, according to state-run television.

"Soon, even the most politically doltish individuals will understand that this conference was a failure from the beginning," he said, the official IRNA news agency reported. Iran has repeatedly condemned the Annapolis conference, saying it would fail to bring any peace for the Palestinians. Ahmadinejad said the Palestinian "resistance" — such as Hamas, which is backed by Tehran — must have a say in any settlement. You know that is not going to happen.
Ahmadinejad has raised controversy in the West with past predictions of Israel's eventual destruction, including a comment saying it should be "wiped off" or "disappear" from the map — and even critics at home said his inflammatory speeches were needlessly provoking the West against Iran. Ahmadinejad says Israel is Doomed

** It was obvious to me that Abbas and Olmert sincerely want Peace but they are overlooking two very important things that will blow up in their faces. They may in the end have Peace temporarily between the two Nations. However, they forget Bush may want their two countries peacefully sided by side but

1. He practices the Politics of division to create disorder to get what he wants and replace it with his version of new order. And
2. Iran's leaders amongst others do not want bush's new order they want theirs and will fight to the end to get it. When all is said and done the entire middle east will be embroiled because of Bush and when the rest of the world steps in to help Iran Bush will get his reason to take on the world and replace the disorder he created with his version of new world order or so he thinks.

James Joiner
Gardner Ma

6 comments:

betmo said...

i left you a note at my place- i hadn't gotten down through the google reader before i posted the other links. you always do great in depth posts :) didn't want you to think i was skipping out.

as for bush and anything in the middle east, it is telling that not only did he mispronounce both names of the folks involved in this- well whatever it is- but he has never even been to israel. condiliesalot certainly does not deserve any kudos either.

an average patriot said...

betmo
I got your note because I subscribe to you comments. If there is a comment I get it. Anyway I thank you!
Thanks for the compliment. I care and want to get the truth out. I almost gave up this morning because I have had no one responding and I am sick of taking to myself. I don't know!
I got an email this morning from a cousin whose husband is a retired Bird Colonel. It isn't just us because the email was about the end of America. I tried to post it but had no luck.
I won't get too in depth but it said the average length of a successful society is 200 years. Well we just had ours. Regardless of what happens our America is dead. This is Bush's! Take care!

Controversial Colin said...

Hi James.

Just to let you know I was deprived of my liberty for some months due to my blog posts. We are living in a police state.

If they think they will ever stop me posting, they are crazy!

Glad to see your blog grew well while I was away.

Congrats!

http://pull-no-punches.blogspot.com/

an average patriot said...

colin
Son of a bitch! it is great to hear from you. things are getting pretty bad around the entire world and it will get much worse as we become engulfed in World War three.
I was going to take a break from that today and talk about something else but aren't you from Britain? Is it that bad over there too?
I don't think I have your link anymore as I thought you took off but I will get it back. Feel free to E me and discuss what has been happening to you.
Things are pretty bad here too and will get much worse as the Fascist Bush steals more power daily. My E is jmsjoin@verizon.net
I know you told me I should get myself publisher and wider read but I have't done anything about it as I am caught up in this unfolding nightmare.
I have a copyright allowing people to reprint my stories and have seen them in a few languages but I have to start making money though I would rather make a difference. People are becoming increasingly aware of how screwed they are but it is too late to stop it now! Stay in touch man, take care!

PoliShifter said...

I'm curious to know more about Controversial Colin's story.

As for Bush, he mixes with peace about as well as water mixes with oil.

He didn't even stay for the whole conference. And then he put a military commander (instead of Condi Rice) in charge of making sure the talks continue. What does it say when you point a Military Commander in charge of peace talks?

It was all for show and window dressing, that's it. Something that Rove can trumpet and so there will be at least one footnote when the Bush Presidency History is written that he at least feigned an attempt at foreign policy and peace making. Jesus would be so proud.

an average patriot said...

polishifter
I am very curious to hear what has happened to Colin too. I am waiting for his email. I was wondering why he dropped out. I will let you know. I am nonplussed because he is from Britain.
Anyway as for that conference you know it was for show and to us will be a total failure but it will give Bush the division he wants to achieve his goal or so he thinks. Take care!