Showing posts with label Congress. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Congress. Show all posts
Sunday, October 01, 2017
14th amendment states The validity of the public debt of the United States shall not be questioned Obama warns against US debt default
Remember: Democrats Push Offshore Corporate Tax Changes in U.S. Debt-Reduction Bill Go for it, it is the right thing to do.
Is the debt ceiling unconstitutional? Short answer, Yes!
Tim Geithner: 14th Amendment Says Debt 'Shall Not Be Questioned'
The text of the 14th Amendment reads as follows:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
If I understand this the Constitution trumps any other law like the debt ceiling.
The debt ceiling raise is needed not for new spending but that that has been already authorized by Congress, ie by law and thus the President has 2 duties:
1) Uphold all laws that have been passed
2) The debt has already been committed to over many years so it is valid and "shall not be questioned.
That makes using the 14th a no brainer.
The Presidential oath also requires the President to protect and defend the Constitution. If he does not follow it as laid out above one could argue you could impeach him as well.
In fact all members of Congress took a similar oath so their inaction to provide the debt ceiling action needed to fund the laws passed by them could be deemed a violation of their oath of office subjecting Boehner in particular to impeachment. Right?
The other issue here is that failure to protect the nation's financial system from a meltdown is akin to "war" and the President again is bound to protect the nation as well. Keeping the nation from falling into a deeper recession, higher borrowing costs, higher deficits due to a double dip and the world losing faith in the US as a reserve currency makes his inaction on the 14th impeachable to me.
Failure to act has been estimated to cost the US $50B minimum directly for even a few day default due to increased debt rollover costs and as much as a trillion over a decade not to mention higher borrowing costs for consumers and business as well.
If he needs to he will act and get the job done as he should, no doubt about it.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com
Sunday, March 21, 2010
Brett Baier disrespected a sitting President that was the only desperation I saw
Obama's Contentious Fox News Interview
I thought it was pretty big of President Obama to walk into the Fox den and do that interview not because he was desperate as I saw that one biased right wing writer here said and made fun of in the normal childish right wing way. I was impressed knowing how many times Fox has been caught in outright lies and misconceptions to falsely favor their cause of making Republicans look good and Obama fail.
Obama let go of the contention between Fox and the White House in order to reach Independents Democrats and Republicans alike who watch Faux. It was a sign of Obama's desperation to reach more people and get the truth to them. The real desperation was in the way Baier conducted the interview. You can read it below at the link but what Fox contributors called a great interview would only be called that by Faux.
Brett Baier disrespected a sitting President. He kept cutting him off! I thought it went very well despite Baier's ignorance Obama got his point across. He did nothing different. As he does at every interview and every town hall meeting he searched for the right words. The Fox panel incorrectly and biasedly congratulated Baier on his ignorance saying Obama was hemming and hawing. Watch the video and decide for yourself! Panel Discuss Obama-Baier Interview on Health Care Reform
You keep hearing of some fallacy called a jobless recovery. That is code for the poor needy elderly uninsured and out of work will go south but our system will be saved and that is all that matters. Healthcare must be passed or there will be no recovery of "our" economy because of the millions out of work, the millions losing there houses and the up to 50 million with no health insurance and no way to get it. No health care no recovery jobless or otherwise!
That is the way Republicans want it. If they go with this Deem and pass process and pass this without a vote the sh@$ is going to hit the fan. Down the road who knows when enough is enough, the 2nd revolution Republicans have been trying to incite from day one and even a brother of mine is calling for will happen. If Democrats resort to deem and pass it will destroy our future if it is not already.
You can bet that when Republicans get in they will do what they want, no voting any more, deem and pass everything. Bret Baier was ignorant and disrespectful of President Obama you do not a President the way Baier did. Obama deserves credit for going into the Fox den. It is very important that health care get passed with a straight up and down vote not deem and pass as that will finish off our Democracy and Republicans will make sure of it.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
Thursday, September 17, 2009
Representative Joe Wilson You Lie! President Carter agrees it is all about Racism plus How House has handled other Joe Wilson-like moments

I have done more than a few stories on the fact that while there may be valid excuses for the animosity towards President they are merely excuses to cover the reality that is is all about racism on both sides of the color barrier. I did a story 4 days ago showing that
Having said that, I like you was disappointed in President Obama when he sided with the Black professor before knowing the facts and said Cambridge Officer Gates acted stupidly while to an unbiased eye it appears the Professor acted racist. President Obama showed even he has his ingrained racial issues. I am afraid Blacks are more guilty of racism than many whites. I am afraid the Black Reverend in the video in the above link is right saying 90% of Racist Blacks voted for Obama.
I do not care what color a person is just that they do the job at hand the best. That said, during the hearing on whether or not to admonish Joe Wilson for yelling "you lie" interrupting President Obama's speech the Black Caucus came out saying it was racial and Wilson had to be held accountable. Black Representative Hank Johnson said pretty soon we will have men riding around wearing white robes and wearing white hoods.
Dem rep: Wilson outburst 'instigated more racist sentiment'
I found that a bit strong but I had to agree with Congressman Clyburn and certainly saw his point. He said the reason for wanting Wilson admonished had nothing to do with playing Politics. After listening to his reasons for wanting Joe Wilson rebuked I have to agree! He was a teacher his son is a teacher in Joe Wilson's District and his grandchildren go to school in Wilson's District.
Republican Boehner said this is hypocrisy and wanted to get on with the people's Business. What? They have not done the peoples business since Bush was elected! It is hypocrisy but Republicans are guilty of it. So to is Joe Wilson who called President Obama a liar and accused him of wanting to give illegal aliens medical coverage.
* I found out Joe Wilson in 2003 in the Medicare prescription modernization Act for prescription medicine under Bush that "DID cover illegal aliens. * Also was a member of the sons of confederate Veterans that has been dominated by racial extremists. In the Bill I must say as we all know, there were elements that included illegal immigrants but they were removed around a month ago. However as most also know, there is a 1986 Law "President Reagan by the way" that says illegal aliens must be treated by hospitals. That has always bothered me and that will not change.
That said, the facts in this case show Wilson is wrong and even lying or not telling the truth whatever you want to call it! However that has proven to be a plus to other racists who support him and so far have donated more than $2 million to his reelection campaign. His competition for the seat has also received around $1.5 million. It appears that creating controversy and commotion is now a way of life in gathering political contributions. I don't like this!
If Wilson just went on the floor of the House and apologized this would have gone away but then he wanted have gotten $2 million in campaign contributions. Pelosi really did want this to go away but despite what they are saying Republicans did not want this to go away and as you know they do not want to do the peoples work. For what it is worth the vote for admonishment was approved 240 yay 170 nay's so the slap on the hand is official. Please check How House has handled other Joe Wilson-like moments
* In closing this will now melt into Congressional obscurity I mean history along with the rest of their worthless activity or more apt, inactivity Since Partisan bickering under Bush took the place of doing the peoples work. Like him or not President Carter sees what is happening in the country! He said that not only was what Wilson said all about racism and the belief by many whites that Blacks are incapable of running the country but underlying everything is Racism! I am sick of Republicans denying it to hide their divide and conquer racist agenda!
James Joiner
Gardner Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
Wednesday, July 22, 2009
Republicans want to make Health care Obama's Waterloo!


Health Care Reform Challenge
I really was stunned to hear Republican Jim DeMint politicize this so blatantly. Those asses just do not stop! This is not about Obama. This is about America. If Republicans succeed in making Health care reform fail it will be America's Waterloo not Obama's. I do not believe DeMint even said that and a bigger issue has not been made of it. Obama did say something about it but he should have named names and should pound that asinine statement home. look at Mondays exchange
We must do something! We need more affordable and better health care. Despite the fear mongering we have some great examples to follow. Republicans decry Canada's health care system touting horror stories of inefficiency and suffering. I have never heard my Canadian family members complain. I have heard nothing but good. You can hear negatives in every system especially ours.
I was listening to Canadian Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh fielding questions about Canada's health care system because of all the disinformation Republicans are feeding the public. We keep being told Canadian Doctors are unhappy with the system and under paid. He refuted that saying Canadian Doctors like the system and do not feel they are underpaid.
He said people are not turned away as Republicans say but if you have a heart attack or something major wrong with you, you go to the head of the line. Even illegal immigrants go to the hospital no questions asked. Your taxes pay for the coverage so you pay absolutely nothing. I am so sick of Mitch McConnell's and others lies and fear mongering over Canada's health care system.
It is do or die time for Obama who is doing the big sell to both party's and around the country. Health care is in surgery! I refuse to believe that we spend twice as much on health care than other developed Nations and we have 47 million and growing uninsured. I do not need it but I refuse to believe we can not do better than this! Baucus and Grassley believe bipartisan health care reform is doable
So what is the problem? Do it and do it now! Republican's see Political Blood. I am seeing red myself. They want Obama thus us and our version of America to fail. This is not about Obama it is about getting rid of us and our version of America once and for all.Obama has been steadily destroying their new version put in place by Bush and they want to get back in place to get their version back and finish average Americans and our version off.
How are we going to pay for this? Health care is the big fight right now! We can not fail on this because the future of our society is at stake. We have blown passing this before but we can not now. Obama is going around the country pushing for passage. We will pass something but what? I for one want to know that ahead of time. If not Obama will will be creating us and him bigger problems in the future.
Obama is on a relentless media blitz to pick up Republicans and Democrats that he need while Republicans are trying to break him. Those fools think if they make health care fail they can make Obama fail. To me they are saying let health care and his version of America fail and it sickens me. They make that blatantly obvious and get away with it. That is fundamentally wrong, unpatriotic, wanting America to fail. How the hell do they get away with this?
I think Obama pointing out what DeMint about making health care fail so it will be Obama's Waterloo should be repeated often and I bet that single asinine statement will be solely responsible for getting it passed. If it does not it will be to the Republicans demise! I think we can pass something in the next couple of weeks then work on improving it.
Republicans would be smart to stop making themselves failures and make sure something is done for the 47 million uninsured and the millions having trouble paying for health care. They can then spend as much time as they want tweaking it until we have a great Health Care Bill. I have a friend in Wales touting their system and despite Republicans fear mongering Canada's system I believe 100% we have some excellent examples and better do this now and get started perfecting it not fighting it. Obama is going to get this!
* Health care is the issue of our time! Believe it or not knowing this Congress is preparing to take a months vacation. What? Obama seems to be our friend and Congress once again our enemy. People are losing their jobs, their houses, sometimes their very lives and Congress has to go on vacation for a month? Vacation from what? Failure? Obama should go public with this and force Congress to stick around until they complete this. I heard a few Democrats say they are willing to stay and get this done. Hold there feet to the fire and get this done!
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
As the entire world allies against Bush's Forever War he will Declare Martial Law, will a filibuster proof Congress matter?

As Bush prepares to embroil the entire middle east in the hell he created for Iraq Turkey is preparing to go into the Kurdish area in a more permanent "temporary force" as we did in Vietnam. We know how that worked out, Forget about "only a year" as Turkey thinks. It will be more or less permanent like all the rest of the still just developing horror in the middle east.
Bush's militarism has forced Putin to confront him over his missile shield and it has brought Russia together with Caspian Nations to ally against Bush. Many of the thoughts on Bush and his militarism ruining what might be right for the entire world if that was the concern instead of Bush following what is right for him were very interesting but I want to focus on something else so if you are interested please look at The Link
I have always respected the Dalai Lama and could never fathom China being so against him and little Tibet. I have the same curiosity towards Myanmar but I really have to wonder about the timing in angering China in such an in your face manner and Bush the arrogant idiot is peeved at the Democrats and their holding Turkey accountable for genocide because it might interfere with his warmongering making it more difficult but it till not stop him.
Bush's militarism has forced Putin to confront him over his missile shield and it has brought Russia together with Caspian Nations to ally against Bush. Many of the thoughts on Bush and his militarism ruining what might be right for the entire world if that was the concern instead of Bush following what is right for him were very interesting but I want to focus on something else so if you are interested please look at The Link
I have always respected the Dalai Lama and could never fathom China being so against him and little Tibet. I have the same curiosity towards Myanmar but I really have to wonder about the timing in angering China in such an in your face manner and Bush the arrogant idiot is peeved at the Democrats and their holding Turkey accountable for genocide because it might interfere with his warmongering making it more difficult but it till not stop him.
Anyway, The US president, George Bush, today denied that he had risked damaging American relations with China by attending an award ceremony for the Dalai Lama, and urged Beijing to permit religious freedom. he is but he doesn't care! China has vehemently protested over the public ceremony at which the exiled spiritual leader and 1989 Nobel peace prize laureate was awarded America's highest civilian honor, the Congressional gold medal. Read the whole story
Mr. Bush said the Dalai Lama was a "universal symbol of peace and tolerance, a shepherd of the faithful and a keeper of the flame for his people" as he handed him the award.I am really disturbed at the audacity of the underhanded, warmongering, universal symbol of war and intolerance giving the Dalai Lama his deserved award for peace and tolerance. I am sick of this picture!
That is still not my prime concern and question today. We are about to enter unchartered waters as the world unites against Bush and his new world order Forever Wars. This is not just a hope to me. I believe people are waking up and it is going to happen but It started out as such a faint hope for New York Senator Charles Schumer that he hardly dared voice it. But as more and more Republicans retire or become engulfed by scandal, it has become irresistibly imaginable: the idea that Democrats might gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate after the 2008 elections. "It's a very remote chance and every star would have to align correctly," Schumer, who heads the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, told TIME. "But it's way too early to make predictions."
That is still not my prime concern and question today. We are about to enter unchartered waters as the world unites against Bush and his new world order Forever Wars. This is not just a hope to me. I believe people are waking up and it is going to happen but It started out as such a faint hope for New York Senator Charles Schumer that he hardly dared voice it. But as more and more Republicans retire or become engulfed by scandal, it has become irresistibly imaginable: the idea that Democrats might gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate after the 2008 elections. "It's a very remote chance and every star would have to align correctly," Schumer, who heads the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, told TIME. "But it's way too early to make predictions."
It may not be too early, however, for Republicans to be fearing the worst. As early as July Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell grimly acknowledged: "When you look at our numbers, holding our own is the best we can hope for." And that was before five long-serving Senators recently announced their retirements, many of them in purple states such as Virginia and Colorado that may be difficult for the G.O.P. to defend. In a more conventional election year, the G.O.P. might actually be making a push to regain a slim majority. The Senate is currently split 49-49 with two Independents — Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Vermont's Bernie Sanders — who caucus with the Democrats. But this cycle there are a range of factors working against them. The disappointing GOP
* The GOP's biggest problems are their corruption but Mainly Bush,his abusive powers, and his Forever Wars. Now my concern! As the world is lining up to ally against Bush, his upcoming attack on Iran, and his militaristic warmongering, many of us fully expect the idiot to cancel elections and declare Martial Law. You can help me with this but would not that make Filibuster and Congress worthless and powerless as you and I? We are in so much trouble, our future!
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Sunday, August 19, 2007
Yesterday I said China and the US would confront each other despite the finance situation, today for contrarians some proof!
Yesterday in response to my saying that China and Russia will come to the aid of Iran when an all out confrontation breaks out between Iran and the US there was the standard group of people who said the US would never endanger the tenuous relationship with their money source and that China would never endanger their primary income source. Well guess what today brings?
First the closing arguments in yesterdays story. Both Moscow and Beijing share a heightening distrust of what they see as the United States' oversized role and influence in global politics, and the two former Cold War rivals have forged a "strategic partnership" aimed at counterbalancing Washington's policies. The Russian-Chinese war games, which took place near the Urals Mountain city of Chelyabinsk, coincided with Russian air force maneuvers involving 20 strategic bombers which ranged far over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans.
The group of strategic bombers, early warning aircraft, fighter jets and refuel
ing planes represented the biggest show of Russian air power in that region since the early 1990s, said Brig. Gen. Ole Asak, chief of the Norwegian Joint Air Operations Center. NATO in recent years has expanded to include the former Soviet republics of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia as well as the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland.
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization SCO is a regional group dominated by Moscow and Beijing and are obviously on Iran's side. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose country has SCO observer status, attended the summit for the second consecutive year. On Thursday, Ahmadinejad echoed Russia's criticism of U.S. plans to deploy missile interceptors in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic, saying they were a threat to the entire region. http://www.blogger.com/
later Yesterday I learned Dozens of anti-China bills, denouncing China for alleged currency manipulation, illegal subsidizing of exports and violations of intellectual property law, have been circulating in the Senate for months. But since the recent health scares over toothpaste laced with antifreeze and tainted pet food from China, the anti-China sentiment on Capitol Hill has noticeably risen. So much so that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is about to head to China to raise "issues of concern to the U.S. Congress" with Chinese officials, including Chinese Premier Hu Jintao.
The threat of a trade war with China, by far the largest holder of U.S. debt, is serious. If China perceives itself a target, it might in turn levy a harsh tax on American imports, or outright forbid them. Such consequences, though, are not high on the minds of several Congressional committees looking for a way of easing the trade imbalance, which last year reached $233 billion.
The Senate Finance Committee approved a bill, by a 20-1 vote, that would allow the Treasury to take action against China by lowering its standard for identifying currency distortion. Since China stopped pegging its currency to the dollar in 2005, Senators say that the Yuan may have been undervalued by as much as 40%, making American exports to China more expensive and Chinese exports to America cheaper.The Senate Banking Committee has its own China bill, which would also make it harder for the Treasury to avoid labeling China as a currency manipulator.
The feeling is that China must be held accountable for its predatory practices. meanwhile we are watching Russia and China willing to confront us on not only a financial field but in a military field. This confrontation is growing on every front and it will end in as desired, Confrontation.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1647881,00.html
I reiterate It is unbelievable to me to think that Bush does not realize that when all is said and done and the war in the middle east ramps up as Iran and the US go after each other, that Russia and China will step in to help Iran regardless. Bush's drive for war and new middle east order will soon be WW3 and total disorder. Can anyone see this possibly being avoided?
James Joiner Gardner, Ma www.anaveragepatriot.com
First the closing arguments in yesterdays story. Both Moscow and Beijing share a heightening distrust of what they see as the United States' oversized role and influence in global politics, and the two former Cold War rivals have forged a "strategic partnership" aimed at counterbalancing Washington's policies. The Russian-Chinese war games, which took place near the Urals Mountain city of Chelyabinsk, coincided with Russian air force maneuvers involving 20 strategic bombers which ranged far over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans.
The group of strategic bombers, early warning aircraft, fighter jets and refuel
ing planes represented the biggest show of Russian air power in that region since the early 1990s, said Brig. Gen. Ole Asak, chief of the Norwegian Joint Air Operations Center. NATO in recent years has expanded to include the former Soviet republics of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia as well as the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland.
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization SCO is a regional group dominated by Moscow and Beijing and are obviously on Iran's side. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose country has SCO observer status, attended the summit for the second consecutive year. On Thursday, Ahmadinejad echoed Russia's criticism of U.S. plans to deploy missile interceptors in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic, saying they were a threat to the entire region. http://www.blogger.com/
later Yesterday I learned Dozens of anti-China bills, denouncing China for alleged currency manipulation, illegal subsidizing of exports and violations of intellectual property law, have been circulating in the Senate for months. But since the recent health scares over toothpaste laced with antifreeze and tainted pet food from China, the anti-China sentiment on Capitol Hill has noticeably risen. So much so that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is about to head to China to raise "issues of concern to the U.S. Congress" with Chinese officials, including Chinese Premier Hu Jintao.
The threat of a trade war with China, by far the largest holder of U.S. debt, is serious. If China perceives itself a target, it might in turn levy a harsh tax on American imports, or outright forbid them. Such consequences, though, are not high on the minds of several Congressional committees looking for a way of easing the trade imbalance, which last year reached $233 billion.
The Senate Finance Committee approved a bill, by a 20-1 vote, that would allow the Treasury to take action against China by lowering its standard for identifying currency distortion. Since China stopped pegging its currency to the dollar in 2005, Senators say that the Yuan may have been undervalued by as much as 40%, making American exports to China more expensive and Chinese exports to America cheaper.The Senate Banking Committee has its own China bill, which would also make it harder for the Treasury to avoid labeling China as a currency manipulator.
The feeling is that China must be held accountable for its predatory practices. meanwhile we are watching Russia and China willing to confront us on not only a financial field but in a military field. This confrontation is growing on every front and it will end in as desired, Confrontation.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1647881,00.html
I reiterate It is unbelievable to me to think that Bush does not realize that when all is said and done and the war in the middle east ramps up as Iran and the US go after each other, that Russia and China will step in to help Iran regardless. Bush's drive for war and new middle east order will soon be WW3 and total disorder. Can anyone see this possibly being avoided?
James Joiner Gardner, Ma www.anaveragepatriot.com
Monday, July 23, 2007
It should be Impeachment, Censure would be good, cancelled elections and Martial Law is more likely!
I wanted to talk about Senator Feingold's second effort at Censuring Bush To me he should be Impeached for too many crimes against America and our Constitution. He will escape that like he escapes all responsibility and accountability.
I wholeheartedly agree with Senator Feingold that Bush should then at the very least be censured. I noticed Harry Reid saying the damage is done to Bush so Censure is needless. I disagree 100% these fools better start realizing they must get together and stop Bush before it too late for us and the world. He must be stopped anyway possible before ha can cause more damage and attack Iran in a failed attempt to establish new middle east and world order.
While I was researching the valid reasons for Censure I found a couple very interesting items. One is Comedy Central's Lil. Bush clips, videos, pics and more. Check them out and have a laugh before looking at
the reasons for and validity of having Bush censured as he should be. http://www.comedycentral.com/... A brief example of Feingold's valid argument for Censure: When the President of the United States breaks the law, he must be held accountable. That is why today I am introducing a resolution to censure President George W. Bush. The President authorized an illegal program to spy on American citizens on American soil, and then misled Congress and the public about the existence and legality of that program. It is up to this body to reaffirm the rule of law by condemming the Presidents actions. All of us in this body took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and bear true allegiance to the same. Fulfilling that oath requires us to speak clearly and forcefully when the President violates the law. This resolution allows us to send a clear message that the Presidents conduct was wrong. And we must do that. The Presidents actions demand a formal judgment from Congress. At moments in our history like this, we are reminded why the founders balanced the powers of the different branches of government so carefully in the Constitution. At the very heart of our system of government lies the recognition that some leaders will do wrong, and that others in the government will then bear the responsibility to do right. This President has done wrong. This body can do right by condemming his conduct and showing the people of this nation that his actions will not be allowed to stand unchallenged. Please read all the Remarks of Senator Russ Feingold Introducing a Resolution to Censure President George W. Bush. You can also listen to them if you wish. http://feingold.senate.gov/... Feingold's long list of valid reasons for Bush's censure was pretty comprehensive but I wanted to check into it a little further and found this. George W. Bush the Dark Side, the skeleton's in his closet. http://www.realchange.org/... Besides everything Feingold mentioned in addition there is a sundry of lifelong lies, corruption, and cover ups. How on earth to our demise did this joker ever get in, really? Anyway, he lied at press conferences, lied in Court, Lied to "the Dallas Morning News, lied to "Meet the Press", Lying about DUI's of which at 3 Bush and Cheney hold a world record three for a ticket, Lying under oath, OMG it goes on and on and on. You cannot convince me there is not enough reasons to censure this guy or even get rid of him.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
I wholeheartedly agree with Senator Feingold that Bush should then at the very least be censured. I noticed Harry Reid saying the damage is done to Bush so Censure is needless. I disagree 100% these fools better start realizing they must get together and stop Bush before it too late for us and the world. He must be stopped anyway possible before ha can cause more damage and attack Iran in a failed attempt to establish new middle east and world order.
While I was researching the valid reasons for Censure I found a couple very interesting items. One is Comedy Central's Lil. Bush clips, videos, pics and more. Check them out and have a laugh before looking at
the reasons for and validity of having Bush censured as he should be. http://www.comedycentral.com/... A brief example of Feingold's valid argument for Censure: When the President of the United States breaks the law, he must be held accountable. That is why today I am introducing a resolution to censure President George W. Bush. The President authorized an illegal program to spy on American citizens on American soil, and then misled Congress and the public about the existence and legality of that program. It is up to this body to reaffirm the rule of law by condemming the Presidents actions. All of us in this body took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and bear true allegiance to the same. Fulfilling that oath requires us to speak clearly and forcefully when the President violates the law. This resolution allows us to send a clear message that the Presidents conduct was wrong. And we must do that. The Presidents actions demand a formal judgment from Congress. At moments in our history like this, we are reminded why the founders balanced the powers of the different branches of government so carefully in the Constitution. At the very heart of our system of government lies the recognition that some leaders will do wrong, and that others in the government will then bear the responsibility to do right. This President has done wrong. This body can do right by condemming his conduct and showing the people of this nation that his actions will not be allowed to stand unchallenged. Please read all the Remarks of Senator Russ Feingold Introducing a Resolution to Censure President George W. Bush. You can also listen to them if you wish. http://feingold.senate.gov/... Feingold's long list of valid reasons for Bush's censure was pretty comprehensive but I wanted to check into it a little further and found this. George W. Bush the Dark Side, the skeleton's in his closet. http://www.realchange.org/... Besides everything Feingold mentioned in addition there is a sundry of lifelong lies, corruption, and cover ups. How on earth to our demise did this joker ever get in, really? Anyway, he lied at press conferences, lied in Court, Lied to "the Dallas Morning News, lied to "Meet the Press", Lying about DUI's of which at 3 Bush and Cheney hold a world record three for a ticket, Lying under oath, OMG it goes on and on and on. You cannot convince me there is not enough reasons to censure this guy or even get rid of him.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
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Impeachment,
Resolution,
Russ Feingold
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Bush Reserves Right to ignore Laws, Challenges 1,100 Bill sections, More than all other Presidents combined!
Bush reserves right to ignore laws, challenges 1,100 Bill sections, more than all Presidents Combined. Then there's Cheney who can ignore Bush's laws! It's an uncontrollable circle jerk!
I set out to write about Cheney's ongoing argument that he is above Bush's rules but of course it got deeper. First with Congress, Cheney, and Bush all ignoring each other I have to reiterate, what friggen good are they? Opinions on all of them are at record lows and they could all care less as they all continue to do nothing, do what they want, and none of them give a damn.
Bush may be President but Cheney is the real Decider. Cheney and Rove's got him elected to be cheerleader to push their agenda through. During the interim Bush has learned to be the master of Rove's taught 3 D Politics (deceitful, deceptive, divisive, Politics) to get what he wants.
During their tenure Bush has set a fine example. I should be used to the crap by now but this really stunned me. In a report to Congress, the non partisan Government Accountability Office studied a small sample of the bill provisions that Bush has signed into law but also challenged with signing statements.
The GAO found that agencies disobeyed six such laws, while enforcing 10 others as written even though Bush had challenged them.
It is a common feeling for us that what damn good is a law or anything if Bush can just rewrite it or ignore it? A signing statement is a legal document filed in the Federal Register the day a president signs a bill into law. It instructs the executive branch about how to implement the new statutes the bill creates, and sometimes it states that certain provisions are unconstitutional and need not be enforced as written.
Bush's signing statements have drawn fire because he has used them to challenge more than 1,100 sections of bills -- more than all previous presidents combined. The sample the GAO studied represents a small portion of the laws Bush has targeted, but its report concluded that sometimes the government has gone on to disobey those laws. I mean, what the frig? http://www.boston.com/...
While Bush is challenging more than all our Presidents combined and rewriting whatever he deems necessary the real Decider who is doing much of the dirty work reserves the right to be above anything Bush sets into law so he can cover for him.
The White House struggled to explain yesterday why President Bush complies with rules and oversight on secret documents but Vice President Cheney doesn't. However, I already have! There were also no answers about why Cheney followed the rules in 2001 and 2002 but began stonewalling on documents in 2003 as the CIA leak case was breaking and weapons of mass destruction were not to be found in Iraq. It is simple. His misdeeds and cover ups for Bush are now obviously against the law The White House simply shrugs it off and says they will check on it. Yeah right!
There are rumors that Cheney tried to abolish the government office charged with safeguarding documents, which was hounding him for access but of course it is denied.
Cheney has often cited executive privilege stemming from his office in the Bush administration to reject requests from Congress. But the vice president's office has also claimed that because Cheney is president of the Senate in the legislative branch, he is exempt from a request by an agency in the executive branch. http://www.nydailynews.com/...
This is absolute BS and is by design a circle jerk rendering Congress and us powerless to stop them from doing what they want. Of course to cap it off Gonzales was asked to order Cheney to comply but the Justice Department has yet to rule. We are powerless to stop these corrupt new order idiots and we have to change that quickly.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
I set out to write about Cheney's ongoing argument that he is above Bush's rules but of course it got deeper. First with Congress, Cheney, and Bush all ignoring each other I have to reiterate, what friggen good are they? Opinions on all of them are at record lows and they could all care less as they all continue to do nothing, do what they want, and none of them give a damn.
Bush may be President but Cheney is the real Decider. Cheney and Rove's got him elected to be cheerleader to push their agenda through. During the interim Bush has learned to be the master of Rove's taught 3 D Politics (deceitful, deceptive, divisive, Politics) to get what he wants.
During their tenure Bush has set a fine example. I should be used to the crap by now but this really stunned me. In a report to Congress, the non partisan Government Accountability Office studied a small sample of the bill provisions that Bush has signed into law but also challenged with signing statements.
The GAO found that agencies disobeyed six such laws, while enforcing 10 others as written even though Bush had challenged them.
It is a common feeling for us that what damn good is a law or anything if Bush can just rewrite it or ignore it? A signing statement is a legal document filed in the Federal Register the day a president signs a bill into law. It instructs the executive branch about how to implement the new statutes the bill creates, and sometimes it states that certain provisions are unconstitutional and need not be enforced as written.
Bush's signing statements have drawn fire because he has used them to challenge more than 1,100 sections of bills -- more than all previous presidents combined. The sample the GAO studied represents a small portion of the laws Bush has targeted, but its report concluded that sometimes the government has gone on to disobey those laws. I mean, what the frig? http://www.boston.com/...
While Bush is challenging more than all our Presidents combined and rewriting whatever he deems necessary the real Decider who is doing much of the dirty work reserves the right to be above anything Bush sets into law so he can cover for him.
The White House struggled to explain yesterday why President Bush complies with rules and oversight on secret documents but Vice President Cheney doesn't. However, I already have! There were also no answers about why Cheney followed the rules in 2001 and 2002 but began stonewalling on documents in 2003 as the CIA leak case was breaking and weapons of mass destruction were not to be found in Iraq. It is simple. His misdeeds and cover ups for Bush are now obviously against the law The White House simply shrugs it off and says they will check on it. Yeah right!
There are rumors that Cheney tried to abolish the government office charged with safeguarding documents, which was hounding him for access but of course it is denied.
Cheney has often cited executive privilege stemming from his office in the Bush administration to reject requests from Congress. But the vice president's office has also claimed that because Cheney is president of the Senate in the legislative branch, he is exempt from a request by an agency in the executive branch. http://www.nydailynews.com/...
This is absolute BS and is by design a circle jerk rendering Congress and us powerless to stop them from doing what they want. Of course to cap it off Gonzales was asked to order Cheney to comply but the Justice Department has yet to rule. We are powerless to stop these corrupt new order idiots and we have to change that quickly.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
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Alberto Gonzales,
Congress,
Dick Cheney,
George W. Bush,
The GAO,
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Tuesday, June 12, 2007
While wer'e talking Symbolic, what are the Ramifications of a no confidence vote on Bush?
A No Confidence Vote In regard to Bush, is it possible? Can Someone tell me what the ramifications would be?
Like you I am listening to the political drama going on over the waste of time a No Confidence vote on Gonzales is. I am sick of seeing obvious corrupt people backed by Bush who says he is the Decider and what everyone else thinks and does is just a waste of their time and energy. I listen to Bush say he is more confident about Gonzales now that he remembers nothing and in light of everything that has gone wrong at least to us in this MIS Presidency and I started thinking.
We keep hearing the GOP saying trying to hold the President accountable for instigating and allowing corruption is "beneath the Senates Dignity" first I have to say nothing appears to be, including not working and looking stupid. Isn't doing the peoples work and keeping the Government and the President honest their job? Can somebody help me with this!
This morning I heard that after all this time there are still 100 unclaimed bodies from Hurricane Katrina hanging around in nondescript warehouses. That is unconscionable. What happened to caring and doing the right thing?
I understand Impeachment is the only actionable thing the Senate can do against the President or so I think. Knowing how that is going and certainly Bush deserves that and more, and that the Congress and the Senate has still officially refused to consider it, I have to ask! What would be the Ramifications of having an open vote whether the Republicans block it or not on a No Confidence Vote for the chief idiot?
I don't have to list or name the numerous situations he has mishandled whether on purpose for his new order or through corruptive ineptitude. Just say one word. Everything! He has done nothing right for the average American. He has done nothing right for "we the people" He has done nothing right for Our America. He has done nothing right in the middle east or diplomatically around the world.
Katrina, Iraq, The middle east, the world, to us he has messed everything up. To him he has done everything right as he pursues a different agenda than us and the Democratic Congress. I do not understand why a no confidence vote cannot and has not been taken against the man who would call himself a President? It would at least let the people know Bush would be held accountable and if not then it was the Republicans allowing it to continue. It may be symbolic, meaningless, and worthless for now but it would let people know that once the Democrats take everything over in 2008 there would be a return to accountability and doing the work of "we the people" and our America.
I know there would be bad ramifications around the world politically for the entire country and I certainly can't say I know how that would play it but we are driven to take desperate action to make this President do the right thing for the average American and the world not for Bush and his MIS Agenda. Would a no confidence vote on the President of the United States be doable and consequential? Please tell me what you think.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
Like you I am listening to the political drama going on over the waste of time a No Confidence vote on Gonzales is. I am sick of seeing obvious corrupt people backed by Bush who says he is the Decider and what everyone else thinks and does is just a waste of their time and energy. I listen to Bush say he is more confident about Gonzales now that he remembers nothing and in light of everything that has gone wrong at least to us in this MIS Presidency and I started thinking.
We keep hearing the GOP saying trying to hold the President accountable for instigating and allowing corruption is "beneath the Senates Dignity" first I have to say nothing appears to be, including not working and looking stupid. Isn't doing the peoples work and keeping the Government and the President honest their job? Can somebody help me with this!
This morning I heard that after all this time there are still 100 unclaimed bodies from Hurricane Katrina hanging around in nondescript warehouses. That is unconscionable. What happened to caring and doing the right thing?
I understand Impeachment is the only actionable thing the Senate can do against the President or so I think. Knowing how that is going and certainly Bush deserves that and more, and that the Congress and the Senate has still officially refused to consider it, I have to ask! What would be the Ramifications of having an open vote whether the Republicans block it or not on a No Confidence Vote for the chief idiot?
I don't have to list or name the numerous situations he has mishandled whether on purpose for his new order or through corruptive ineptitude. Just say one word. Everything! He has done nothing right for the average American. He has done nothing right for "we the people" He has done nothing right for Our America. He has done nothing right in the middle east or diplomatically around the world.
Katrina, Iraq, The middle east, the world, to us he has messed everything up. To him he has done everything right as he pursues a different agenda than us and the Democratic Congress. I do not understand why a no confidence vote cannot and has not been taken against the man who would call himself a President? It would at least let the people know Bush would be held accountable and if not then it was the Republicans allowing it to continue. It may be symbolic, meaningless, and worthless for now but it would let people know that once the Democrats take everything over in 2008 there would be a return to accountability and doing the work of "we the people" and our America.
I know there would be bad ramifications around the world politically for the entire country and I certainly can't say I know how that would play it but we are driven to take desperate action to make this President do the right thing for the average American and the world not for Bush and his MIS Agenda. Would a no confidence vote on the President of the United States be doable and consequential? Please tell me what you think.
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com
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