Friday, September 26, 2008

Once again our attention is being turned away from the growing crisis of World War three created by Bush by another crisis created by Bush!

Once again our attention is being turned away from the growing crisis of World War three created by Bush by another crisis created by Bush and in this case it is the bankrupting of America! I was happy to hear this morning that the white house talks last night erupted and broke doen because of the concervatives in the Republican party as McCain injected Presidential politics in this made a mess of his campaign as McCain rode in to save the day and created a total mess Russia has had enough and as we have been saying for quite a while and is arming and rallying the world behind them to take Bush on!
Ron Paul is right Rice and Bush are instigating "cold" war with Russia!

You may know that on the 3rd Russia gave the US 21 days to leave the Black sea or they would sink every ship there. They are also arming the world to take on Bush and threaten if the US or Israel attack Iran they will come to their aid! This is not good an undeniable.

I hope you watched that video as this is really ramping up while our attention is on the crisis Bush created right here. Meanwhile the world is showing their unity with Ahmadinejad who as you know says the end of the US is near. And here An event organized by several religious groups to honor Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in New York Thursday has drawn ire from the Catholic League and several Jewish organizations, UPI reported. Religious groups celebrate Ahmadinejad

Meanwhile Russia offered Venezuela $1 billion in credit to buy weapons as Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez visits to develop military ties amid worsening relations between both nations and the U.S. Russia agreed to ``issue a $1 billion credit line to Venezuela for the realization of military-technical cooperation programs,'' the Kremlin said in an e-mailed statement, using a term that Russian authorities employ to describe defense sales. His visit comes as Russian warships sail to the Caribbean Sea for joint exercises with the Venezuelan navy, and shortly after two Russian Tupolev-160 strategic bombers returned to Russia from a brief training visit to the South American nation. Russian relations with the U.S. have soured over Russia's war with U.S. ally Georgia last month. Venezuela is leading a drive to push back historic U.S. influence in Latin America.

Venezuela spent $4.4 billion on 12 contracts for Russian weapons from 2005-2007, the Kremlin said. These include deals to buy 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles, 50 military helicopters and 24 Su- 30 jet fighters, according to a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report. Weapons Sales Russia is now in talks to sell air defense systems, armored personnel carriers and new-generation Su-35 fighter jets due to start production in 2010, the Kommersant newspaper reported on Sept. 18, citing state industrial holding company Russian Technologies chief Sergei Chemezov. Venezuela's insistence on getting credit toward buying these weapons, as well as Russian diesel submarines that it is seeking, had been holding up the negotiations, Kommersant said.

Venezuela's defense budget has more than tripled since 2000 to 7.12 billion bolivars ($3.3 billion) in 2008, according to the National Budget Office. Chavez's biggest purchases came in 2006. In that year alone, he signed deals for $3.1 billion in weapons. Russia agreed to establish a factory in Venezuela for the production of both AK-103 assault rifles and 7.62mm ammunition for more than $500 million, according to a report by the U.S. Congressional Research Service. Chavez, who last visited Russia in July, has called the country the guarantor of a ``multipolar world.'' Earlier this month he expelled the U.S. ambassador to Caracas as Venezuelan-U.S. relations worsened. Russia the guarantor of a ``multipolar world

Preceding this was a visit to China! Venezuela expects a first shipment of Chinese military training planes to arrive next year, but the purchase is only a tiny part of a relationship based on finance and energy, President Hugo Chavez said on Thursday. The staunch leftist said he was pushed into the deal for 24 K-8 craft because Venezuela's ideological foe, the United States, had refused to sell him spare parts for old American planes and so pilots risked their lives when training. He lambasted journalists for focusing too much on military ties between socialist nations he said were simply looking to share their assets to bolster growth. 'I notice that every time I come here some international media try to minimize aspects such as commerce,' he said.

'(The military deal) for us is not the most important thing. What are important are finance and energy.' Military links have been in focus because ties with the United States are particularly stormy, and Chavez's next stop on a whirlwind global tour will be Moscow where he is likely to discuss joint maneuvers planned for November. Chavez used his fifth visit to China to cement ties with the world's number two oil consumer, as he looks to reduce a traditional reliance on energy markets in the United States. The two countries signed a slew of deals to boost oil sales, build a new refinery and tanker fleet, and expand by $6 billion a joint investment fund. Chavez in China making military and oil deals

* It makes sense that MSM would hype the military aspect of deals between Chavez, Russia, and China, as they are complicit with our war monger party and you know, because of Bush's war mongering and instigation to goad the world to war is uniting the world behind Russia and against us. There is no surprise here as the crisis Bush created right here is keeping attention away from the crisis that promises to come to a head this fall enabling Bush to declare martial order as I outline often and quite succinctly yesterday I will also attempt to follow events at the White House and the Debates between Obama and McCain!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Ingrid said...

Jim, the one article (the loong one) from global research shows that the US is instigating all kinds of wars, skirmished the world over. Venezuela has something to worry about and I don't blame them wanting to get armed. Of course the arms would have to come from Russia. Russia really doesn't have any choice but to seek allies and to fight back, doing the proxy thing like the US has done for years and years..
When did you say those 30 days were up? I'm hurting man, typing with an infection on my elbow..geez.
At any rate, Ron Paul has some very smart ideas alongside some really unpractical ones which is a crying shame. As for Kucinich, he will be remembered favourably in the future for being one of the very few (there's also Wexler) to stand up and speak the truth.

hope your house selling is going well,


an average patriot said...

Global is right and i have communicated and watched Professor Chossudovsky and his work for years and we always agree!
Venezuela has much to worry about and thanks to bush's instigation to war the world is rallying to give it to us! While it unfolds every day peoples attentions here are diverted by the crisis he created right here. This is 30s Germany and the Brown Shirts on steroids!
That warning by Russia I first found on Pravda and like here I am sure it was for public consumption. I believe without checking that the warning was given on the 3rd and was for 21 days so the time is up!
That is funny, I fell the same way about Ron Paul and the others. You know, we have no mortgage and knowing that things will get much worse I am very Leary to take on even the smallest debt. I hope your elbow gets better quickly and you relax take care and stay in touch!

DushesRUS said...

Russia gave the US 21 days to leave the Black sea or they would sink every ship there.
I haven't heard about it... how do you know this information?

Brother Tim said...

Ahhhhhhh, those killer Russian Kilo-Class Submarines, the delivery system for the Sizzler Missles.

Let the games begin.

an average patriot said...

I first read it on Pravda but the video about it is the last video in yesterdays post. Watch it I believe you will agree! I would like to know what you think. Glad to see you by the way!

an average patriot said...

Hey Brother
I just went to your site and reread that. You made me aware of that before but you made me go back and listen to the last video yesterday about Russia's warning and they are talking about squall torpedoes and super sun missiles or whatever they are saying I can't make it out maybe you can educate me again.

Weaseldog said...

Sunburn Missiles.

They are highly maneuverable hypersonic missiles, that make 'S' turns on their way to the target, to evade incoming fire.

The Russians developed them to sink US Aircraft Carriers.

According to Russian rumors, they've provided Iran with 20 of these missiles.

DushesRUS said...

I've searched for this information on, but I have found nothing there. Do you have the link?
Russia could not make such statement, because it means transition to direct actions against the NATO. To sink your navy ships means war with NATO. We aren't so stupid to be at war with a half of the world.

an average patriot said...

Hi Wease
Had one of my sons tying me up! Sun burn missile I was wondering what they were saying.
You know, I have been following Russian weapons improvements for years and they have some bad ass shit.
I remember a misile a couple years back that hugged close to land to avoid detection and target any given house through whatever window they want.
That is scary shit an we are antagonizing them saying they better make sure they have boats and planes that can go this far.
Rice keeps saying their weapons won't work but that makes me think HAARP. WTF?

an average patriot said...

I have been tied up on the phone with one of my sons let me see if I saved it on my other carrier because I don't have it here. I didn't imagine it because you saw the video if you watched it and that news caster said the same thing. You guys may not be that stupid but Bush is and the little bastard is instigating. Let me look and get back to you!

an average patriot said...

I haven't found the story but I have found a thousand of them I just keyed in Russia Gives Nato 21 Days To Leave Black Sea - I may have been seeing things but... Most of them are videos that I am seeing so you can see what is getting around!

an average patriot said...

Oh wait a minute, you guys have google right? I am not familiar with what you have or if this is universal?

Brother Tim said...

The SS-N-22 Sunburn (NATO's designation) is the Russian 3M-82. It was the precursor for the SS-N-27 Sizzler, or as the Russians designate it, 3M-54. It is launched at subsonic speeds, and as it nears the target, shifts into a supersonic sprint, with evasive maneuvering capabilities. The 3M, in both categories, stands for Mach 3.

As you point out, these missile systems were developed for one purpose: taking out aircraft carriers. More than the strategics of eliminating a carrier offense, losing one (or more) would be a horrible morale breaker.

Russians are chessmasters. They couldn't compete, dollar for dollar, with the U.S. Navy in ship building, so they developed alternatives. Each of these missiles cost less than a fighter jet. Who's stupid, huh?

an average patriot said...

Son of a bitch brother you know, knowing that the Russians have been improving these things for years I am very concerned with the bragadocio Bushco displays. I know they are but they can't be this friggen stupid.
We keep hearing Rice say their weapons won't even work. They have to know HAARP is infallible. They can't be this friggen stupid!

Brother Tim said...

"They can't be this friggen stupid!"

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, McCain, Palin, Kristol, etc, etc, etc.......Don't bet the rent on it.

DushesRUS said...

Yeah, google is universal :)

I find this. But there is no link about russian warn to sink US navy ships in the Black Sea. Only video that you posted here. I watched this video.
As my opinion: it's just a hearsay (maybe rumour, i don't know how to translate it right, sorry), because this video doesn't confirm by facts.
I still believe that WW3 won't be launched.

P.S. Sorry for my english :)

an average patriot said...

I know I have to laugh! I shake my head every time I say that because they have a proven track record and they are. I know, consider the source!

an average patriot said...

You were right! Don't apologize I commend you. Imaging me trying to translate Russia? Forget it. Let me check that link now, thanks!

an average patriot said...

I saw the one from Ron Paul but I was looking for something from Russia. When I first saw the story I was putting something together with videos so I ignored the story since I found the video'
Ron Paul is one of the few people you can believe here. He was running for President and is very much against these new order war mongers. He would not deal in innuendo or rumor.

an average patriot said...

Here you go!
Tension on the rise in Black Sea, Turkey stuck in the middle

Friday, August 29 2008 @ 11:14 AM Central Daylight Time
The tension in the Black Sea has increased steadily, placing Turkey in a very difficult position. The first challenge Turkey faced was the passage of U.S. warships through its straits carrying humanitarian aid to Georgia, a move slammed by Russia.

The two hospital ships tonnage exceeded the limits set by the Montreux Convention, which governs international traffic through the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits. Under the convention, the total weight of the warships that countries not bordering the Black Sea can deploy was limited to 45,000 tons.

The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Dallas delivered supplies to the Georgian port of Batumi yesterday, three days after the guided-missile destroyer USS McFaul docked in the port.

By choosing Batumi, the U.S. opted for a less confrontational move than docking at Poti, another Georgian port where Russian troops are dug in. The U.S. may have also suspected that the Russians had mined the harbor at Poti.

Meanwhile warships belonging to NATO members Spain, Poland and Germany passed through the straits to head to Romania's Constanta.

NATO warships attended the Black Sea for long-planned exercises and routine visits to ports in Romania and Bulgaria.

Russia responded harshly to the increased military presence of NATO in the Black Sea. General Anatoli Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of the Russian General Staff, accused NATO of “ratcheting up tension” in the Black Sea. Dmitri Peskov, a spokesman for Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, said: “It’s not a common practice to deliver humanitarian aid using battleships.”

Nogovitsyn also warned U.S. ships could only stay in the Black Sea for 21 days according to the Montreux Convention, and warned if they do not leave by then Turkey would be responsible.

The U.S. ships are carrying nuclear missiles that can hit Russian targets as far away as St. Petersburg, Russia also said. Moscow has dispatched its own ships to track the U.S. vessels.

Russia sent its flagship of the Black Sea deployed at the Crimea peninsula to Sukhumi.

Tension in the region remains high, leaving Turkey stuck in the middle, being the sole NATO member that borders the Caucasus on one hand, while Russia is one of its major trading partners, especially in energy, on the other. Black sea tension
Looks to me like it was more of a threat to Turkey but of course like everything today it can be turned around to fit ones purpose. I hate it!

an average patriot said...

Oh Oh! Breaking: Senator Kennedy rushed to Cape Cod Hospital reason yet unknown!