Monday, June 23, 2008

Right or Wrong : The Battle of the Flip Floppers but know and be scared as hell of the real ruthless John McCain! He'll dwarf Bush and finish us off!

I wanted to discuss the finally improved GI Bill or the fact that oil today hit a new high despite the fact that the scum's in the White House succeeded in wresting a promise of a 2.5 million Barrel increase by the Saudi's that I said would only embolden the oil Industry to screw us even more and they are. In light of the ruthlessness of McCain, his increased scumminess, and the flip flopping of both campaigns, I once again have to digress and discuss something I would rather not as it is critical!

To start with, I do not like the label of flip flopper as it is used as a dirty word for Political gain. In reality to me a Politician that truly represents the will of the people and holds the wrong view better be able to "Flip Flop" to push the interests of their constituents not their party or selfish interests! That said Days after both men reversed course on major issues, the presidential campaigns of Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain spent much of Sunday's talk-show circuit working to ensure accusations of "flip-flopping" don't stick. that is BS! Instead of playing these childish Political games they should explain why they changed their view!

Instead Both sides tried to go on offense, with the Obama camp accusing McCain of "yet another flip-flop" on the issue of oil drilling and the McCain camp saying Obama broke his word on the issue of campaign financing. McCain said this week that he now supports lifting a federal ban on off-shore drilling that he once supported. "The stakes are high for our citizens and for our economy," McCain, the presumed Republican nominee for president, said Tuesday at a press conference in Houston, Texas. Former Sen. Tom Daschle, Obama's campaign co-chairman, said "we're surprised at yet another flip-flop on the part of John McCain here."
But McCain's economic adviser Carly Fiorina, on CBS' "Face the Nation," argued that "a good leader is influenced by the facts on the ground." She added, "We've never before faced a situation where the price of a barrel of oil has doubled in the last 12 months. So what John McCain has said is that we now need to take control of our own energy future. When McCain announced his decision on Tuesday, he said off-shore oil drilling could be part of a plan "in the short term in resolving our energy crisis." But many analysts argue any significant oil production gain would be years away.

On the issue of campaign financing, Obama announced on Thursday that he would not take public financing for the general election. Obama told supporters in an e-mail message he would not accept about $85 million in public funds when he becomes the Democratic presidential nominee. In the e-mail, Obama said the public campaign financing system allowed "special interests [to] drown out the voices of the American people" and asked his supporters to "declare our independence from a broken system." Obama added that McCain would not stop "smears and attacks" from outside groups that can spend unlimited money. battle of accused political 'flip-flops

* On the issue of drilling! It is BS and nothing is going to lower the price of gas at the pump or of oil as you are witnessing just one day after the oil summit. So I want you to focus not on how mush you know or do not know about Obama but rather on the cold ruthlessness of the next false Republican God the Liar John McCain as this guy is scary and will stop and nothing, dwarf Bush's nightmare, And finish us off. Be very scared! Our friends Polishifter and Robert Rouse have both done very good articles uncovering the Lie that is John McCain but I think it is very important you know just how far he will go! The real John McCain by Paul Harris: To his fans he's a lovable patriot with a maverick streak. But to his critics he's an anti-abortion Creationist who surrounds himself with religious extremists. Paul Harris uncovers the dark side of John McCain. Welcome to the John McCain show 2008. It's powerful stuff, portraying McCain as the decent patriot of the middle ground and a steady hand for difficult times. For a lot of Americans - including many Democrats - it is a beguiling vision. They see a war hero whose courage was forged in a North Vietnamese POW camp. They see a maverick who spoke against the tortures of Abu Ghraib. They see a reformer who acts against lobbyists and political favors. They see a politician who has spent a lifetime serving his country and won a place in the hearts of the nation.
But there is another, very different side to John McCain. Away from the headlines and the stirring speeches, a less familiar figure lurks. It is a McCain who plans to fight on in Iraq for years to come and who might launch military action against Iran.

This is the McCain whose campaign and career has been riddled with lobbyists and special interests. It is a McCain who has sided with religious and political extremists who believe Islam is evil and gays are immoral. It is a McCain who wants to appoint extreme conservatives to the Supreme Court and see abortion banned. This McCain has a notoriously volatile temper that has scared some senior members of his own party. If McCain becomes the most powerful man in the world it would be wise to know what lies behind his public mask, to look at the dark side of John McCain. be very scared! John McCain is an American hero in an age of war and terrorism. As young Americans return in body bags from Iraq and Iranian mullahs cook up uranium, an old soldier like McCain seems a natural choice in a dangerous world. He is the son and grandson of warriors. Both his father and grandfather were four-star admirals. He was even born on a military base, on 29 August 1936, in Panama. And his life story reads like a movie script. The young, rascally McCain, nicknamed 'McNasty' by his classmates, attended the elite West Point military academy. He became a navy pilot, long before Tom Cruise made 'Top Guns' famous, and began his first combat duty in Vietnam in 1966, carrying out countless missions. Then came disaster. He was shot down and held prisoner for five years by brutal North Vietnamese captors. In his stiff gait and damaged arms, he still bears the scars of their tortures. His CV for the White House is written in his suffering as much as in his career as a senator.

That military legacy has made John McCain a legend. But it has not turned him into a peacemaker, at a time when most Americans desperately want the war to end. Anyone hoping for a new president who will quickly bring America's troops home from Iraq had better look elsewhere. McCain has always supported the invasion of Iraq and he wants to support it until at least 2013, or perhaps for many years beyond. He believes withdrawal would be a surrender to terrorists. McCain believes in projecting American military power abroad. So it is no wonder that the neoconservatives who pushed for war in Iraq have now regrouped around him. McCain's main foreign policy adviser is Randy Scheunemann, who was executive director of the shadowy Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. Other leading neocons on board include John Bolton, America's belligerent former UN ambassador, Bill Kristol, editor of the Neocon bible the Weekly Standard, and Max Boot, who has pushed for a US version of the old British Colonial Office. Another close McCain adviser is former CIA director James Woolsey, who has openly advocated bombing Syria. Such a group of warlike counselors has raised fears that McCain may strike Iran to stop its suspected quest for a nuclear weapon, triggering a fresh war in the Middle East. The Republican candidate has openly joked about bombing Tehran. It was just over a year ago, in the tiny borough of Murrells Inlet in South Carolina, and McCain faced a small crowd in one of his characteristic town hall meetings. As McCain stood on the stage, one man asked him about the 'real problem' in the Middle East. 'When are we going to send an airmail message to Tehran?' the man pleaded. McCain laughed and - to the tune of the Beach Boys' classic 'Barbara Ann' - began to sing: 'Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.' But some think McCain's joke may well become policy. 'I think a McCain presidency would be very likely to strike Iran,' says Cliff Schecter, author of a new book, The Real McCain. You can count on it!

There is also a little-reported back-up plan for reporters who do not toe the line: sheer aggression. A recent Washington Post piece on a land deal by one of McCain's allies prompted a brutal response from the McCain campaign. Without disproving facts, they labeled the story 'shameful' and a 'smear job'. When Newsweek ran a story on the Obama camp's perception of McCain's weak spots, McCain's team struck again. This time the story was 'offensive' and 'scurrilous'. The campaign is willing to strike out abroad, recently persuading one European newspaper editor to scrap a review of Schecter's book. For the fact is, McCain's benevolent public image is no accident. It has been carefully crafted and is forcefully policed. 'This has gone on for years. This is an image he has worked very hard to maintain,' says Professor Seth Masket of the University of Denver. Much of the dark side of John McCain lies behind the closed doors of K Street, a Washington DC boulevard lined with glitzy buildings and home to the capital's booming lobbyist industry. A close examination of McCain's campaign workers, political allies and backers reveals a dense world of dubious loyalties, uber-lobbyists and powerful corporate interests. McCain is very much at home with K Street's sharp-suited denizens, their wealthy clients and their art of influence-peddling.

The make-up of McCain's team has set alarm bells ringing among Washington's campaign watchdogs. 'We need to know who is advising the candidates and why,' says Josh Israel, a lobbyist investigator at the Centre for Public Integrity (CPI). 'Rather than advising them based on what is good for the candidate or the country, are they instead looking for their other interests?' McCain's campaign has even had to bring in special rules to cut down on the number of lobbyists on his team. Nor is it just campaign workers who have extensive links to the lobbying industry. McCain's financial backers do, too. A recent survey of 106 elite fundraisers for McCain revealed that one in six were lobbyists. Watchdog groups such as the CPI believe McCain has a long history of helping people who also happen to be his wealthy backers, including several large landowners in Arizona, Nevada and California who have profited from McCain-linked property deals. 'McCain has a long way to go to line up his reformist image with the actual reality,' Israel says. Skeptics might conclude that McCain's post-Keating career represents a cosmetic makeover, not a true conversion.

John McCain is level with Barack Obama in the polls in a year when Democrats should be a certainty. He is even winning in key swing states like Florida. His appeal to America's middle ground remains strong. These are people like self-confessed moderate Keith Gregory, 24, who filed out of the Denver auditorium as a convert. The young student, dressed in a freshly pressed suit and tie, had been deeply impressed by McCain's speech. 'I like him more than before,' Gregory said. 'He talked very sensibly and openly about the issues.' This is McCain's great strength and also one of his greatest myths. Few see McCain as an ideological warrior in America's culture wars. Unlike Bush, he is not a born-again Christian. In McCain's inner circle - unlike Bush's - there are no group prayer meetings. Yet the reality is that McCain is a social conservative who has actively sought out the far right of his party and forged alliances with Christian extremists.

Just look at McCain's 'pastor problems'. He has enthusiastically sought the political blessing of some of the most conservative religious figures in the country. McCain gave the 2006 commencement address at Falwell's Liberty University, a college that has taught creationism alongside science. McCain also courted and won the endorsement of Texan preacher John Hagee, despite Hagee blaming Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans's liberal attitude towards gays. Hagee believes the disaster was God's judgment on the sinful city. Another McCain-backer, Ohio preacher Rod Parsley, has spouted hate about Muslims. Parsley, whom McCain called a 'spiritual guide', believes America was founded partly in order to destroy Islam. He has called Mohammed a 'mouthpiece of a conspiracy of spiritual evil' and has supported prosecuting people who commit adultery. Though McCain later repudiated the endorsements of Parsley and Hagee, he did so only after bad headlines threatened his moderate image. Most of Hagee's and Parsley's views were widely known from public speeches or books. It was not their bigotry that caught the campaign out, it was the reporting of it. 'McCain has had links with these religious figures who are just way, way out of the mainstream,' says Cliff Schecter.

There are other nasties, too. McCain is friends with G Gordon Liddy, one of the Watergate burglars. Liddy, who once plotted to kill a left-wing journalist, has hosted a fundraiser with McCain in his own home. McCain also endorsed and campaigned for Alabama politician George Wallace Jr in 2005, despite Wallace's links to racist groups. Wallace has praised and spoken at meetings of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a white-power group that opposes inter-racial marriage and promotes white racial purity. If a moderate voter were seeking to judge a politician by the company he keeps, then McCain keeps some very odd company indeed.

But it is not really that strange. McCain himself holds deeply conservative views, including proposing teaching the creationist idea of Intelligent Design in schools alongside evolution. McCain has also always been anti-abortion. He believes the landmark Roe vs. Wade ruling that legalized abortion was a bad decision. McCain has vowed to continue the Bush policy of appointing extreme conservatives to the Supreme Court and many fear a McCain presidency will see Roe vs. Wade overturned. 'McCain is neither moderate nor a maverick when it comes to a woman's right to choose. He's just plain wrong,' said Nancy Keenan, president of abortion rights group Naral.
On the environment, too, McCain is not the green warrior some might think. He has voted against tightening fuel efficiency standards for American cars. The League of Conservation Voters gives McCain an environmental rating of 24 per cent; Obama gets 86 per cent. 'His rhetoric does not match his voting record on this issue,' says David Sandretti, a director of the League. 'McCain is better than Bush, but that's not much of a yardstick, because the current president is abysmal.'

But it is not just McCain's politics that are disturbing. It is his personality, too. For McCain has a secret reputation as a man with a ferocious, unpredictable temper. He is a man who has a knack for pursuing vendettas against those he thinks have slighted him, even if they are lowly aides.
The list of worrying incidents is long. In 1995 he ended up almost physically scuffling with aged Senator Strom Thurmond on the Senate floor. And, according to some accounts, in 2006 he had a fight with Arizona congressman Rick Renzi, throwing blows in a scrap whose details have only recently been detailed in Schecter's book. Schecter unearthed another unpleasant incident from 1992 in which McCain, tired after a long day's campaign, reacted badly to his wife Cindy teasing him about his baldness. 'At least I don't plaster on the make-up like a trollop, you cunt,' McCain snapped in front of eyewitnesses. Schecter says he has three sources for the story. McCain's campaign have denied it.

Such public outbursts, and many other private ones, have concerned people even in his own party. Former New Hampshire Republican Senator Robert Smith publicly voiced his concerns, once saying McCain's temper ' ... would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger'. That sentiment was echoed by Mississippi Republican Senator Thad Cochran, who told a Boston newspaper: 'The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.'
Yet McCain is still campaigning successfully as the lovable, maverick patriot. It is a strategy his staff believe will win the White House. So the tricks and stunts keep on coming.

A few weeks ago a letter was delivered to Barack Obama's Chicago campaign headquarters. It was from McCain and in gracious language it offered to hold weekly 'town hall' meetings across America where he and Obama would appear side by side. It would be a far cry from the rancorous circus of televised debates. The audience would be neutral independents. The questions would be random. It would summon back a golden age of gentlemanly politics. 'I also suggest we fly together to the first town hall meeting as a symbolically important act embracing the politics of civility,' McCain wrote.

Like the Denver speech, it was a vintage McCain ploy: superbly geared to his everyman image of decency. But the true McCain is far different. His dark side is real and Democrats will need to expose it if America is to avoid a third successive term of extreme conservative government. Now Democrat activists are pushing out their argument that McCain is a conservative wolf in a moderate sheep's clothing. They are highlighting the temper, the pro-war ideology and the links to lobbyists. 'We think he just means four more years of Bush,' says Karen Finney, a director at the Democratic National Committee. Finney's job is to convince Americans they have got McCain wrong, that they have been fooled. She and her fellow activists have less than four months to succeed. But for now, as America gears up to one of the most important elections in its history, McCain's dark side remains largely hidden behind closed doors. The real "Ruthless" John McCain

I showed a good part of that article because I wanted to portray it with the underhanded slimy crap you see coming from McCain all day every day as often as he can to discredit Obama along with this issue of flip flopping. I encourage you to read the entire article and continue to spread the word about the despicable nature and danger of allowing a "President McCain" to happen!

James Joiner
Gardner Ma


Karen said...

My number one issue is the war in Iraq, all else pales, imo.

The only thing that will upset me when Barack becomes our next President is if he reneges on his promise to bring the troops home.

an average patriot said...

You are better than me. There are so many problems today and most of them have been fed by Bush and allowed to fester and are getting ready to lance that I just do not know though the middle east is the key to this upcoming...I'll be nice!

Mike S said...

Because one once overcame a dire situation and was a near hero doesn't make you a 'present-day' leader. McCain's time is past and the only thing left to him is to try to bluster his way into the White House. The most consistant thing I see in him is his inconsistancy. Tell them what they want to hear taken to the same extremes the Bush campaign went to. The Hell with the truth, morals, or ethics, as long as we win in the end. Sadly, if they win, America loses, perhaps for a final time.

an average patriot said...

Hey Mike
You are right! McCain is no hero he was a POW by accident and lyingly used his families Admiralty and his stature for favors with the NV. That is why he never cooperated when we tried to find out the truth. He is a scum and a deceiver on the order of Bush and will dwarf even him! McCain will finish us off if they steal this election too! Hold on!

Robert Rouse said...

While doing an interview about Tim Russert, Doris Kearns Goodwin said that Tim would have loved to interview Abraham Lincoln. She said if someone had accused him of flip-flopping, that he would have simply answered, I'm older now and a little smarter than I was before. In other words, instead of making excuses, he would have told the truth.

an average patriot said...

Son of a gun! Anyone other than a Politician would be proud to admit they changed course because their constituents had another view. Hell, a Politician is supposed to represent the people not themselves.
Interesting you point that out about Russert because at his funeral his son told Barrack and McCain if they changed there mind admit it as his Father would want and is only right. That didn't last a day.
I am sick of seeing Obama target routinely while McCain is the rut5hless one! We are screwed if there are enough idiots fooled or they steal this election too one way or the other!

Minnesotablue said...

Hi Patriot: You know, every time I see McCain speak I see his grimace and how he is trying to control his temper through those puckered lips. Can you imagine him on the other end of the red button.? It,s going to be a damned long summer. The Pundits are already taking about a landslide for Obama, setting him up for a fall. You know what they say, one day is like a year in politics. Also read about Charlie Gibson whinning about the unfairness of Obama not taking federal money. Didn't know big shot pundits like him took sides so openly.
And hey: thanks from me to you friend

Dave Dubya said...

I'm always amused when the Republicans (or Hillary) accuse Obama or anyone else of being "elitist".

Gimme a beak! If that's not an elitist smirk on Bush then there's no such thing. He's the very face of snooty aristocratic elitism

And so is company man Johnny Bomb Bomb McCain. He is the very poster boy of the elitist son of the Military Industrial Complex.

These are the kind of elitist scoundrels who will take down the entire nation in the pursuit of power and greed.

Larry said...

McCain is a crazy old warhog whose own Prescription Princess made him sign a prenupital agrrment before she would let the old sheephide slide a ring on her finger.

McCain is a racist, a woman hater and he is an abuser to all who do not fall at his withered old feet.

The man is dangerous.

an average patriot said...

Whenever I see McCain on TV lying with that snide grimace which is all day every day it seems I get very scared of him being the voice on the other end of the phone at 3:am or the finger on the button! Hell if he doesn't get in underhanded or not that deceitful scum will be the prank calls harassing Obama! And you are entirely Welcome, you bring it out by being you and you deserve it!

an average patriot said...

I am sickened every time I see Bush's or McCain's lying snidely whiplash smirking face then they make it worse by opening their mouths to obviously and blatantly lie. Worse is not only is it debilitating but many believe the lying crap! Things are going to be pretty screwed up this fall though we hope not!

an average patriot said...

Of course you are entirely right. That SOB will find some way around that prenup if he wants and it serves his purpose. As you know, McCain has already been chosen as the next false God and President.
We must do all in our power to keep him from happening or our future as a country is screwed! McCain will finish this mess and will dwarf the underhand lying inept scuminess of Bush!

Jolly Roger said...

How in the hell can anyone trust a guy who has Carly Fiorina as an economic adviser? Has everyone forgotten already just why it was HP got mrid of that bitch? She absolutely destroyed a good company. And now she wants to help McCavein finish off the whole country.

an average patriot said...

It absolutely blows me away! I could never understand how the obvious liar Bush ever got elected in the first place. I could never understand why he is and acts so stupid and people think it is funny and support him.
Here they go again! McCain too is an obvious liar and war monger but people only seem to care about being unscrupulously enriched. There is no self respect! People support an obvious scum and they don't care. No one cares. They just want to feast on the carrion left of America instead of repairing her! I just do not get it!