Vatican Hypocrisy!

I always called myself one not knowing there was such a category but I just discovered I am a humanist! I do not need Religion or Church to make me treat people as I should and to do the righteous thing. I do not judge those that need Religion to give them direction. Worse I hate Bigots! Those that use Religion for their selfish gain as Bush does. Going to church does not make you a good person but often a bigot! I have a good friend I discuss this with often. He is very Religious and I always tell him that I appear to be but I do not go to church or need Religion to teach me how to act. Looking for backup for this report I discovered this link and that I am not unique I am a Humanist!
A humanist discussion of Religious ceremonies

I am amazed but at this point I shouldn't be. This morning when I was putting this together I had heard that Caroline Kennedy had been turned by the Vatican to be US Ambassador. As I was looking for backup I see a story that the Vatican not only had not turned down Caroline and everyone else suggested by Obama but supposedly had not even received the list. Then I see a story that an offer of a Vatican visit had been turned down by the Vatican and another story denying it. WTF? The Vatican is no different than any one else. I am a Christian! I am embarrassed to say even the Vatican appears to be hypocrites and liars!

I did not like the relationship I saw between the Vatican and Bush! It appeared as though the two were complicit in what Bush was doing in the US and also in the middle east! It is obvious to me The reports I was looking at underline tensions between the Vatican and the government of President Barack Obama because of its support for abortion rights and stem cell research, a reversal the policies of the George W. Bush administration.

It is opportunistic that yesterday I discussed the culture wars going on in the US with Bush gone Christianity was going down and States allowing Gay marriage were on the incline. Of course I was awake again last night and was perusing the news channels. I saw it reported that the refused to meet Obama because of his stance on abortion but I am not going to supply the link because there was also a story denying it. I am just sick of the lying and hypocrisy and I am a bit hurt and insulted that I see it coming from the Vatican of all places. I guess the Catholic Religion has not changed much in a thousand years!

As I pointed out I was also going to discuss Caroline being turned down to be US Ambassador to the Vatican because she believes in freedom of choice as I do but when I went to get the link there was a story denying it. I just can't frigging stand this crap! It is horrible seeing the Government lie, be hypocritical, and battle itself but this is too much seeing it highlighted so frequently in the Catholic church. Stupid me! I thought child molestation by priests would have embarrassed the church straight. I guess not!

* Speaking of hypocrisy and the Catholic church knowing there was too close a relationship between the Vatican and Bush it is only right that I was also going to discuss Bush who as Governor of Texas killed legally more Americans than anyone in history. I implore you to read the story at the link of who he killed and the fact that he was known as The Texacutioner It just absolutely amazed me that Bush is known as the biggest serial killer in history with the okaying of killing 154 prisoners as Governor of Texas. Cause of Death listed on their Death Certificates "Homicide" It absolutely stuns me that Bush can do this and still get an invite to speak at Notre Dame. Meanwhile the verdict is still out whether or not Obama will be allowed to speak there because of his stance on stem cell research and being pro choice.

To me it does not matter that we agree or not It is the message that matters. I happen to agree with Obama but agree or not he is not going to discuss those subjects. He has a message the people there should hear. That is all that matters. I am just sick of this hypocritical crap but it gets worse.

* Thinking about the fact that Bush killed all those people many veterans and retarded and was still the Popes friend and spoke at Notre Dame I found out why! The catechism use to teach that God had entrusted civil authorities with the power over life and death. Also the Vatican had the Death Penalty on their books until 1969! Religion and capital punishment

In closing yesterday I discussed that Bush is directly responsible for a drop in Christianity and a rise in Atheism. Today I see he has help in the Vatican! It is no wonder Evangelicalism is down and instead they are going to College. I have to say most Evangelicals I have known have been hypocrites Bigots and all screwed up. So I have to hope they are wrong when they say Evangelicals will have more public lives in the future. That can't be good!

With Christianity dying "with help from the Vatican I might add" Secularism is springing up! People will and are seeking other extremes! Pope Jon Paul drew people to the church today people have become disillusioned with the Church and Pope Benedict and his hard line unbending stances. Pope Benedict reaffirms why. He will only widen the division growing between the American people and the Christian Religion! I feel in many regard we are experiencing a return to to the inquisitions. What were the Inquisitions?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

After years of talking about the Rights new Fascist America I am stunned to hear the Hypocrites accuse Obama of wanting Marxism!

Obama accused of what Bush already did! A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship. "It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism." Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military. "I am sorry but I do not see anything wrong with that do you?
"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."has not Bush already done that? What about private security? What about Bush's socialization of America? What about Bush's Fascist party? What about Bush's Nazification of America? Anyway "That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist." WTF don't we have that? Obama's idea endorsed by Bush: The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun's remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.

I just do not get it! Broun said he believes Obama would move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national security force. Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally. Makes sense to me and I am an advocate of the right to bear arms! "We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road." WTF? Bush already has us there and Obama's goal is to bring us back to a Democracy with a functioning Constitution!

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Obama accused of wanting what Bush already did

We have beat this to death in regard to what Bush has done and to no avail! Remember Now I want to relist the 10 steps listed to end a Democracy as they pertain to us and you will agree.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy. The enemy is us! After 9/11 the Patriot act was passed, fear constantly pressed on us and Bush started his power grab.
2. Create a gulag . Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law, FEMA Concentration camps!
3. Develop a thug caste: Blackwater and private security even at times various Governmental agencies.
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals: Threaten civil servants
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason: We know only Bushco can commit treason as they set up their new America
10. Suspend the rule of law: The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. He can now send New York's national guard against another State if "He" deems necessary!

Remember the 14 common threads of Fascism: keep the entire world in mind but particularly how everyone of them applies in America today. This is scary!

* 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. Bingo!

* 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. Bingo!

* 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Bingo!

* 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Bingo!

* 5. Rampant sexism. Bingo, Bingo, Bingo!

* 6. A controlled mass media. Bingo!

* 7. Obsession with national security. Bingo!

* 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Bingo!*

9. Power of corporations protected. Bingo!

* 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Bingo!

* 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. Bingo! (at the link read how it does apply)

* 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Bingo!

* 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Bingo!

* 14. Fraudulent elections. Bingo!*


They worry about Obama and Marxism Even more frightening is a collection of news articles dating from the start of the Bush presidency divided into topics relating to each of the 14 points of fascism including proof in pictures.Blow by blow examples in pictures of American Fascism under Bush! The Hypocrisy will never end!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

Today's examples of Complicity and Hypocrisy, repugnant as ever Bush stays the course of World Destruction!

Continued examples of Blatant Complicity and Hypocrisy as Bush is declared a Winner, What? As Repugnant as ever Bush stays the Course of destruction!

Old news rehashed to show Bush is the arrogant ignorant Decider and his the idiot is Blind to his blatant, Asinine, Hypocrisy. A U.S. federal judge will hold a hearing today into whether the Bush administration violated a court order by destroying videotaped interrogations of two suspected al-Qaida terrorists by the CIA. U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy issued an order in 2005 for the administration to preserve all evidence related to prisoner mistreatment at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The judge is hearing a lawsuit brought on behalf of 16 detainees at Guantanamo. The Justice Department says the tapes were not covered under the order since there was no evidence the suspects, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, were questioned at Guantanamo. read the idiocy

Of course they disobeyed a court order but what the hell do they care? It was done to protect the underhanded Decider and his mis-Administration so they can do what they want. why should it matter where the prisoners were questioned? That is a moot point. Torture is the issue not where it was done!

After I hear this crap that A federal judge appeared reluctant Friday to investigate the destruction of CIA interrogation videotapes while the Justice Department is conducting its own inquiry. U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy is considering whether to delve into the matter and, if so, how deeply. The Bush administration is urging him to back off while it investigates. "Why should the court not permit the Department of Justice to do just that?" Kennedy asked at a court hearing.

The hearing marked the first time that administration lawyers spoke in public and under oath about the matter since the CIA disclosed this month it destroyed the tapes of officers using tough interrogation methods while questioning two al-Qaida suspects.Government lawyer Joseph Hunt said the joint Justice Department-CIA investigation into the destruction of the videos will also seek evidence of whether the government violated any court orders. Hunt promised the judge that, when the investigation is complete, lawyers will tell the court if its rules were violated."It would be unwise and imprudent" for the judge to investigate further, Hunt said.

The judge had ordered the government not to destroy any evidence of mistreatment or abuse at the Navy base in Cuba. Because the two suspects — Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri — were being held overseas in secret CIA prisons, however, they are likely not covered by the order. It's okay we tortured them in secret prisons
Unfriggen believable! Yhep let the Justice department investigate themselves, that'll work "for them" Kennedy is bending to threats of some sort and you have top wonder what now?Government Lawyer Joseph hunt guarantees the Judge they will investigate themselves and tell him everything later that otherwise the Judge better leave this alone. Yeh or what? Besides as was reiterated, those guys were not tortured in Cuba but in the Secret CIA prisons overseas we were told didn't exist! This is Damn sickening!

Meanwhile we have the chief idiot, the master fiscal abuser lecturing Democrats for over spending! man I have to stop shaking my head I'm getting whiplash.Having beaten back most of the Democrats’ legislative initiatives, President Bush chided Congress on Thursday for wasteful spending and announced that his budget director would seek ways to reverse some of the thousands of spending projects attached to a huge spending bill.

Mr. Bush said he and the Congress had ended the year “on a high note,” welcoming a new energy bill, provisions to help people struggling to refinance mortgages, a deferral of the alternative minimum tax that could have affected millions of middle-class taxpayers and an agreement on a $555 billion spending plan that avoided new taxes. Frig, yeah thank Bush, shit! Reflecting the partisan divides that overshadowed those accomplishments, he promptly criticized Congress, citing a sluggish pace of work, refusal to adopt other pieces of legislation important to the White House and its affection for pet spending projects known as earmarks. “The omnibus bill was approved at the last minute, nearly three months after the end of the fiscal year,” Mr. Bush said, returning to a near-constant theme of accusing the Democrats who control Congress of fiscal irresponsibility. “When Congress wastes so much time and leaves its work to the final days before Christmas, it is not a responsible way to run this government.” Legendary Hypocrisy

Sluggish, overspending! what the hell? He is the debt King and name me one productive accomplishment of his entire Presidency! Just over a year ago, a chastened President Bush acknowledged that his party had taken a "thumping" in the congressional elections, and he greeted the new Democratic majority at the weakest point of his presidency. But since then, Democrats in Congress have taken a thumping of their own as Bush has curbed their budget demands, blocked a cherished children's health initiative, stalled the drive to withdraw troops from Iraq and stymied all efforts to raise taxes. Blocking progress and bragging about it

He didn't stymie efforts he blocked them on purpose to make Democrats as worthless as him and that was no tax increase but a rescinding of the asinine Tax cuts for the wealthy. Why can't they call a spade a spade? The ignorance of Bush is obvious but we should at least be able to hold the complicit MSM accountable! Meanwhile the Wall Street Journal is calling the loser Bush the winner as he screws average Americans and underhandedly two faces us and simply continues with his well entrenched plan for total US control and a one world Government through his Forever wars that are just beginning!

James Joiner
Gardner Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com