Koreas exchange fire near disputed sea boundary: North Korea angry because its pranks not getting food

                                                             

 Koreas exchange fire near disputed sea boundary:  The exchange of fire followed Pyongyang's earlier, unusual announcement that it would conduct the drills, a move seen as an expression of Pyongyang's frustration at making little progress in its recent push to win outside aid.The world is watching the artillery exchange between the Koreas with concern. White House spokesman Jonathan Lalley called North Korea's actions "dangerous and provocative" and said they will only deepen its isolation.

 The U.S. remains steadfast in its commitment to the defense of its allies and is working in close coordination with South Korea and Japan, Lalley said Monday. Russia also urged restraint. ``We are worried about the mutual toughening of rhetoric, including the declaration by North Korea that it could conduct a new nuclear test,

North Korea incident sees artillery exchange near disputed sea boundary

The soul of those that starved under Kim Jong Il curse Kim Jong Un. Leaders of the group they call the North Korea Peoples Liberation Front read a statement condemning to death the North Korean leader and staged his mock execution. I told you food was our friend in North Korea! The group calls themselves the North Korea Peoples Liberation Front and their quest was to liberate their homeland on its 62nd anniversary, what happened?

Kim Jong Il had been starving his people to death for decades so he could build his massive military and play with nuclear weapons, missiles, and other advanced weapons. You know I have been very concerned about North Korea and her Shenanigans as she was firing missiles testing nuclear weapons and as a matter of policy, antagonizing the west in order to bring us to the bargaining table and barter cooperation for food for its citizens.

I finally realized years ago now that average citizens of countries around the world do matter and they are mere pawns and bargaining chips for a countries ruling party to use and get what they want. In that end North Korea has routinely sacrificed its people while pursuing its expensive military endeavors.

As you know, famine is one of the biggest and oldest problems in the world. It will only get worse as responsible nations fight to regain their economic footing. We are talking responsible nations one of which North Korea is not. Right now there are over 800 million people around the world suffering from hunger.

North Korea ranks as the worst in the world in that category and a share that distinction with the likes of Somalia, Ethiopia, and Sudan but North Korea has one of the largest military’s in the world and plays with nuclear weapons while starving her citizens.
The main problem is North Korea is closed to the outside world so the Government can ravage the people and follow their militaristic agenda. Most North Koreans do not realize they are among the poorest Nations on the planet and bow to and thank Kim Jong Un for their one meal a day they get and are told is good for them. North Korea Disaster hunger and famine

I always wondered just in knowing what South Koreans have, when the North Korean’s were going to rebel? I have to ask how can any person no matter how deranged possibly think keeping your subjects starving and destitute be good for country order and unity? Free Markets are no longer allowed and the docile people of North Korea were roaming the streets cursing the Government loudly after the currency was devalued. This is pretty radical for North Koreans who have been taught from birth that they owed everything to Kim Jong Il and now his son. My heart is with the up to now loyally starving citizens purposely being starved by their own Government!

 
To me reunification in one form or the other is the best bet for a post Kim Jong Il North Korea. It has many hurdles but many benefits. It would solve North Korea's financial and food woes. The Germanies did it and the Korea's can do it to. They have been working on reunification for years

 
Any way 

you look at it I do not expect Kim Jong Un to live long! I agree that North Korea dynastic succession should end and Korea reunified for the best of North Korea, Asia and the world. I just realized that from the past experience of China not coming forward to stop North Korea's bombastic activities with South Korea and the west that it is China that wants a militaristic North Korea and to protect its border. China has no interest in a unified Democratic Korea at their doorstep.

 

The elephant in the room as you know is China. They do not want us at their door and NK acting up to a certain level has always kept us away.

 
The danger and fear is with the boy being controlled by angry Generals will go too far. China can stop all this by being the one to help NK but they are not interested in it.

 
China is moving forces to the NK border but? In the end I will never understand starving your people for nukes.

 
If we were just talking North Korea I'd have to be very curious as to why they are committing suicide. However Look back and put this mess together. There are many Nations who want to see us knocked off our pedestal but when all is said and done will they help? 

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma

 http://anaverageamericampatriot.blogspot.com

 

 

Both Koreas regularly conduct artillery drills in the disputed waters. The sea boundary is not clearly marked, and the area has been the scene of three bloody naval skirmishes between the rival Koreas since 1999.
North Korea has in recent weeks conducted a string of artillery drills and missile tests and has unleashed a torrent of racist and sexist rhetoric at the leaders of the US and South Korea.
On Tuesday, South Korean navy ships fired warning shots to repel three North Korean warships that briefly violated the disputed sea boundary. On Wednesday, North Korea's military vowed to retaliate.
North Korean military ships and fishing boats have routinely intruded into South Korean-controlled waters that the North doesn't recognize. The Yellow Sea boundary was unilaterally drawn by the US-led UN Command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.

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Both Koreas regularly conduct artillery drills in the disputed waters. The sea boundary is not clearly marked, and the area has been the scene of three bloody naval skirmishes between the rival Koreas since 1999.
North Korea has in recent weeks conducted a string of artillery drills and missile tests and has unleashed a torrent of racist and sexist rhetoric at the leaders of the US and South Korea.
On Tuesday, South Korean navy ships fired warning shots to repel three North Korean warships that briefly violated the disputed sea boundary. On Wednesday, North Korea's military vowed to retaliate.
North Korean military ships and fishing boats have routinely intruded into South Korean-controlled waters that the North doesn't recognize. The Yellow Sea boundary was unilaterally drawn by the US-led UN Command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.
- See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/koreas-exchange-fire-near-disputed-sea-boundary/article1-1221855.aspx#sthash.hei7actr.dpuf

Both Koreas regularly conduct artillery drills in the disputed waters. The sea boundary is not clearly marked, and the area has been the scene of three bloody naval skirmishes between the rival Koreas since 1999.
North Korea has in recent weeks conducted a string of artillery drills and missile tests and has unleashed a torrent of racist and sexist rhetoric at the leaders of the US and South Korea.
On Tuesday, South Korean navy ships fired warning shots to repel three North Korean warships that briefly violated the disputed sea boundary. On Wednesday, North Korea's military vowed to retaliate.
North Korean military ships and fishing boats have routinely intruded into South Korean-controlled waters that the North doesn't recognize. The Yellow Sea boundary was unilaterally drawn by the US-led UN Command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.
- See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/koreas-exchange-fire-near-disputed-sea-boundary/article1-1221855.aspx#sthash.hei7actr.dpuf

Both Koreas regularly conduct artillery drills in the disputed waters. The sea boundary is not clearly marked, and the area has been the scene of three bloody naval skirmishes between the rival Koreas since 1999.
North Korea has in recent weeks conducted a string of artillery drills and missile tests and has unleashed a torrent of racist and sexist rhetoric at the leaders of the US and South Korea.
On Tuesday, South Korean navy ships fired warning shots to repel three North Korean warships that briefly violated the disputed sea boundary. On Wednesday, North Korea's military vowed to retaliate.
North Korean military ships and fishing boats have routinely intruded into South Korean-controlled waters that the North doesn't recognize. The Yellow Sea boundary was unilaterally drawn by the US-led UN Command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.
- See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/koreas-exchange-fire-near-disputed-sea-boundary/article1-1221855.aspx#sthash.hei7actr.dpuf

Vietnam eyes Philippine court case while confronting China for stealing everyone elses territory

 Vietnam eyes Philippine court case while weighing options on China row:  "We would like to exhaust all diplomatic channels and dialogue with China. At the moment, dialogue is still going on," Dam said, reiterating Hanoi's stance that China's action violated both Vietnamese sovereignty and international law. The spat between Vietnam and China is the worst breakdown in shaky but important ties between the two Communist states since a brief but bloody border war in 1979.

Dam, who was set to meet Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe later on Thursday, expressed thanks to Japan and other countries that have criticized China's actions. In March, the Philippines, embroiled in a separate dispute with Beijing in the South China Sea, submitted a case to the Permanent Court of Arbitration at The Hague, challenging China's claims. It was the first time Beijing has been subjected to international legal scrutiny over the waters.

Vietnam, Philippines jointly denounce China's actions!

China seas tensions continue to ratchet up

                                 

                     Vietnam, Philippines Incidents Raise Sea Tensions:  Vietnamese officials said Chinese vessels rammed into Vietnamese coast guard vessels about 10 miles, or 16 kilometers, from a site where Hanoi has sought to prevent a Chinese state-run oil company from deploying a large oil rig in contested waters.

Separately, Philippine police said Wednesday that its maritime group had apprehended a Chinese fishing vessel loaded with hundreds of sea turtles near Half Moon Shoal, a sandbar in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea, drawing swift condemnation from Beijing.

*The Philippines has turned to Washington, its longtime defense treaty ally, for   help to modernize its navy and air force, among Asia's weakest. Chinese paramilitary ships took effective control of the disputed Scarborough Shoal, a rich fishing ground off the northwestern Philippines, in 2012. Last year, Chinese coast guard ships were deployed to another contested offshore South China Sea territory, the Second Thomas Shoal, where they have been trying to block food supplies and rotation of Filipino marines aboard a grounded Philippine navy ship in the shallow waters of the remote coral outcrops.

*Japan's new military base: The new base "should give Japan the ability to expand surveillance to near the Chinese mainland," said Heigo Sato, a professor at Takushoku University and a former researcher at the Defense Ministry's National Institute for Defense Studies.

 
"It will allow early warning of missiles and supplement the monitoring of Chinese military movements." China's decision last year to establish an air-defence identification zone in the East China Sea, including the skies above the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu islets, further rattled Tokyo.

The U.S. Takes Sides in a Dispute Between China and Japan as world war again begins to shroud the world

  The U.S. Takes Sides in a Dispute Between China and Japan:  For the first time, China will host the Western Pacific Naval Symposium, a meeting every two years of countries that border the Pacific Ocean. The W.P.N.S., as it is known in naval circles, counts among its members the United States, Australia, Chile, Canada and a number of Asian countries, including China and Japan.

 It can be an eye-popping display of war ships, destroyers and guided-missile cruisers. In 2008, when South Korea hosted the symposium, the United States sent the aircraft carrier George Washington, the guided missile cruiser Cowpens and the destroyer John S. McCain to take part. For this year’s fleet review, China, which is hosting the event in Qingdao, invited all the countries in the symposium to take part — except Japan.

Two Aegis ships bound for Japan

China ratchets up control over South China sea coming closer to confrontation

                                                

               

China demands removal of Japan’s forces from Spratley Island Group
Philippines drops food to troops after China "blockade":  "We confirmed there was an air drop of food to our troops," Defence Department spokesman Peter Paul Galvez said. He said the air drop was "via airplane," but did not say when it occurred nor give further details. The incident took place at Second Thomas Shoal in the Spratly island group, which is around 200 kilometres (125 miles) from the western Philippine island of Palawan and which Manila insists is part of its continental shelf.

The shoal is more than 1,000 kilometres from Hainan island, the closest Chinese landmass, but China claims nearly all of the South China Sea based on what it says are historical records. A tiny unit of Filipino marines live on the BRP Sierra Madre, a decrepit, beached former World-War-II US navy transport ship that was transferred to the Philippine navy and run aground on the shoal in the 1990s. China has long demanded the Philippines pull out the vessel and the marines.

 China asserts control over vast sea area, angering neighbors, US:  Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines and the United States have criticized China for imposing new access rules for the vast South China Sea. The latest maritime dispute among the neighbors with overlapping claims to islands and resources in the busy East Asian waterways has ratcheted up tensions in the region, coming less than two months after China proclaimed an Air Defense Identification Zone over disputed islands in the East China Sea.

The revised rules stem from actions taken by authorities on the island of Hainan, the Chinese province closest to the sea where areas are also claimed by Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia. The South China Sea and coastal passages from Malaysia to Russia are of vital economic interest to all who ply the shipping lanes used to ferry more than $1.2 trillion in goods annually between the United States and its Far East trading partners.

South Korea expands air defence zone into China's Now what?

  Biden Meets With Chinese President, No Public Mention of ADIZ:  The visit to Beijing comes one day after a visit to U.S. ally Japan, where Biden said he was "deeply concerned" by China's Air Defence Identification Zone in the East China Sea.

The state-controlled China Daily newspaper also warned in an editorial Wednesday that Biden "should not expect any substantial headway if he comes [to China] simply to repeat his government's previous erroneous and one-sided remarks."  After visiting China on Wednesday, Biden will head to South Korea Thursday, which has also been angered by China's declared air defense zone. 

South China sea row escalates towards war?

                            

 South China sea row escalates after US B52 defy new Chinese defense Ban:

 South Korea, Japan Send Planes Into China's New Defense Zone 

China sends warplanes to newly declared air zone The vast zone, announced last week, covers territory claimed by China, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
  Beijing warned it would take “defensive emergency measures” if aircraft failed to identify themselves properly in the airspace which is about two-thirds the size of Britain.Caroline Kennedy, the new American Ambassador to Japan and the daughter of the late President Kennedy, gave her reaction in her first public address.

“Unilateral actions like those taken by China with the announcement of an East China Sea-Air defence identification zone undermine security and constitute an attempt to change the status quo in the East China Sea. This only serves to increase tension in the region,” she said.

China 'monitored' US bombers in new air zone

 The B-52 planes flew over disputed islands in the East China Sea on Tuesday without announcing themselves, defying new Chinese air defence rules. Japan and the US are strongly opposed to the air zone declared by China.They have accused China of unilaterally attempting to alter the status quo and escalate regional tensions.

The new air zone, announced by China on Saturday, overlaps with an air zone set out by Japan and covers disputed islands that are controlled by Japan.

 U.S. vows to defend Japan if China air zone sparks crisis
 Monday, October 14, 2013

US-Japan talks escalate war preparations against China who is doing the same with Russia against us?

 US-Japan talks escalate war preparations against China: Thursday’s talks took place in the wake of the Obama administration’s decision to postpone an imminent military attack on Syria last month in the face of mass popular opposition, both in the United States and around the world.

The “2 plus 2” meetings make clear that despite the postponement of war with Syria, Washington’s plans for military escalation are proceeding apace. Obama’s “pivot” has encouraged Japan and other countries to adopt a more aggressive stance towards China.
I have been following this every step of the way for 7 or 8 years. People use to tell me forget it, it will never happen,

But it will, it's the next war front. We may largely or in part leave the middle east to embroil itself because every country in Asia wants us to take on China and we may.

Russia is the Bull in the china shop. China and Russia have been holding joint war games for years, just recently with 395 thousand troops. Europe better watch out I fear. There is too much at stake here.

It is not land now that is the issue but the riches below the China seas that are needed to propel one through the 21st century.

 Chinese military hardware hits Russia for joint anti-terror drills:  “We’re glad that both countries have a high level of mutual trust. We’re not competitors, but we’re partners. Trust between the two countries became the unique feature of the Peace Mission,

“We’re pleased that we are conducting the exercises in the military district which hosts 40 percent of Russia’s armed forces.This is a new stage of military cooperation between the Chinese and Russian armies,” the Chinese military said, stressing that strategic cooperation between the Russian and Chinese armies had reached an unprecedented level in the recent years.

US hopes China and Japan can resolve island dispute but no way  as China says all China seas are hers

                                                            
* US hopes China and Japan can resolve island:Ties between the world's second- and third-biggest economies have been strained over the uninhabited islets, controlled by Japan but claimed by both countries. The isles are known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China. Aircraft and ships from the two countries have played cat-and-mouse in the vicinity of the islands, raising fears of conflict, perhaps sparked by an accident.


Speaking after a tour of the region, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Daniel Russel said the world did not want the spat to get out of hand. Global interest in economic stability, Russel told a news conference in Beijing, was "too strong for the world's second and third-largest economies to remain at odds.
    
 *China warns America: Beijing has warned the United States not to support China’s neighbours’ claims to disputed islands in the East and South China Seas, the government said on Friday.

Sino-Japanese ties have soured dramatically since Tokyo nationalised some of the Senkaku islands, which Beijing claims and calls the Diaoyus, in the East China Sea a year ago. China also claims almost all of the South China Sea including waters close to its neighbours’ coasts, and tensions with the Philippines and Vietnam have intensified in recent years.

US opposes coercive China action in island dispute: The United States says it's committed to defending Japan and opposes any coercive action by China to seize territory under Japanese control in the East China Sea. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S. isn't taking a position in the dispute over the islands, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.

 

Japan and China have sparred over the uninhabited islands in recent years. Kerry's strong words of support Sunday for America's ally come just a day after he promised new levels of U.S.-Chinese cooperation on a host of problems, most notably North Korea's nuclear program. 

Knowing the coercion has been going on for years and ratcheting up of late is Japan supposed to be heartened by that statement? Or China chastised? Just a month ago: China to open disputed South China Sea islands to tourism: The plans to allow tourists to visit the Paracel Islands before the May Day holiday is the latest stage in Beijing's development of the territory, which has previously angered Vietnam and caused concern in Washington.

Vietnam and China have a longstanding territorial row over the Paracel Islands.Hanoi last month accused a Chinese vessel of firing on one of its fishing boats which had sailed in disputed waters in the area. The plan to allow cruise tours follows rapid development of infrastructure in a new city — Sansha — along with the establishment of an army garrison on one of the Paracels last year.

Inch by inch step by step slowly China's plan in the China sea's turns. Isn't this from inception coercion?

Beijing tells US to 'shut up' over South China Sea tensions

Protests in Vietnam as anger over China's 'bullying' grows: Hands off you Bastard neighbor

Analysis: China unveils oil offensive in South China Sea squabble, outside intervention not welcome

Analysis: China unveils oil offensive in South China Sea squabble: Beijing claims almost all the South China Sea, a body of water believed to hold rich reserves of oil and gas and which stretches from China to Indonesia and from Vietnam to the Philippines. Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia claim parts of it. Any conflict in the sea, one of the world's busiest trade routes, would have global repercussions given the $5 trillion in ship-borne trade carried on its waters each year. "The Chinese government's stance is clearer than ever ... They want to take on and develop this region," said an executive at a global oil major, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The Philippines put two disputed blocks on offer on Tuesday but only received three separate bids for exploration rights, an indication that there was little appetite to go up against China in the South China Sea. "China's view is that the little countries, like Vietnam and the Philippines, are increasingly stealing its resources and it must demonstrate it is serious about upholding its claims," said Ian Storey, a senior fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore.

*Ministry of Defense: outside intervention not welcome: A military spokesman on Tuesday warned foreign countries to avoid interfering with territorial disputes between China and its neighbors regarding the South China Sea. On the eve of the 85th founding anniversary of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the Chinese government held an unprecedented press conference by inviting five senior officers with the PLA's four headquarters to meet the press. "We oppose any country outside the region intervening in these disputes," Defense Ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said on the sidelines of the conference.

"Any intervention by countries outside the region will complicate the problem and even deteriorate the situation," Geng said, calling for bilateral dialogue and negotiations to solve disputes in both the South China Sea and the East China Sea. The spokesman said disputes in the South China Sea mainly revolve around sovereignty and sea delimitation. "China will continue to seek appropriate solutions through bilateral negotiations and consultations with parties directly involved in the disputes," Geng said. Tensions have risen in the South China Sea, where China, Vietnam, the Philippines and other several countries in the region have made overlapping territorial claims over multiple islands.

Now we know why China would not sign the SouthEast China sea accord! They planned on breaking the accord and dramatically ratcheting up tensions by setting up a Government over the disputed Islands and seas so they would have an excuse to intervene militarily. 

*China Approves City Council, Military Base in Disputed Islands: China says it has formed a municipal council for a newly established city in a disputed part of the South China Sea, and has authorized the deployment of a military base in the area. In a report published Sunday, China's official Xinhua news agency says 1,100 residents of several islands known in Chinese as Xisha, Zhongsha and Nansha have elected 45 deputies to a municipal people's congress. The islands are part of the new city called Sansha, and the council will be based on an island that China refers to as Yongxing, known in English as Woody Island.

Xinhua also says China's Central Military Commission has approved the formation of a Sansha garrison command responsible for “national defense” and “military operations.” The Chinese government declared the establishment of Sansha last month, saying its role is to administer the disputed Paracel and Spratly archipelagos and surrounding South China Sea waters, which are believed to hold oil and natural gas deposits. The islands are claimed in whole or in part by Brunei, China, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.

*China dubs tiny island new city in sea claim bid: China's newest city is a tiny and remote island in the South China Sea, barely large enough to host a single airstrip. There is a post office, bank, supermarket and a hospital, but little else. Fresh water comes by freighter on a 13-hour journey from China's southernmost province.Beijing has created the city administration to oversee not only the rugged outpost but hundreds of thousands of square kilometers (miles) of water, aiming to strengthen its control over disputed - and potentially oil-rich - islands.A spokesman for the Philippines Foreign Ministry said Manila did not recognize the city or its jurisdiction. Vietnam said China's actions violated international law.

The city administration is on tiny Yongxing island, 350 kilometers (220 miles) southeast from China's tropical Hainan Island. The Cabinet approved Sansha last month to "consolidate administration" over the Paracel and Spratly island chains and the Macclesfield Bank, a large, completely submerged atoll that boasts rich fishing grounds that is also claimed by Taiwan and the Philippines. Vietnam and China both claim the Paracels, of which Yongxing, little more than half the size of Manhattan's Central Park, is part. The two countries along with the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also claim all or parts of the Spratlys.

This just raises the threat of conflict in the South China Sea. China's way of resolving the multi nation South China Sea issue is not just to lay claim to the whole of China Sea's but today token claim to them as being habitated by China therefore allowing China to militarily fight for them.

Highlights: Asean Summit Breaks Down Over South China Sea Disputes, Philippines says China warship is in its territory, a military aircraft spotted six other Chinese ships near the stricken vessel on Saturday. Japan's plan to buy the disputed Tiaoyutai island group provoked a Chinese live ammunition exercise. China will not sign the South China Sea code of conduct. China, Japan Face Off Near Disputed Islands. China, US seek to calm South China Sea tensions. Plus a recap of what led us to this point if need. If something interests you in this very long and convoluted issue just click on the link and read further!

Why won't China sign the South China Sea code of conduct? (+video) The agreement, raised at the Association of South East Asian Nations in Cambodia, would be the 10th covering essentially the same territorial dispute since the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. The idea is that it would spell out what ships should do to avoid a clash but it wouldn't actually spell out how to resolve competing claims, according to regional news media.

Now we know why, This is just one more confrontation you can only see ending in war rather than Diplomacy and sharing the wealth!

The long run up to the China sea's conflict and the US and allies verse Russia and China competing naval muscle flexing I mean exercises

Being in a superior position puts one in a unique position of power and that power must be handled gracefully, with humility, responsibly, and not abused. That is something I taught all my sons and America under Bush did a lousy job of handling. I am a little worried that China too is getting a little too heavy handed and abusive with her new position of power and beginning to take what she wants instead of being content with what she has which is what I constantly lecture has to be the case if we are to have a future. The time when man and the planet could handle war and colonialism is over, period or else!

We are Taiwan's, Vietnam's, Australia's, and Japan's protectors. As China flex's their military muscles in the area we are not supposed to worry. Just what are we supposed to think they are going to do with their advanced weaponry, missiles, stealth aircraft, aircraft carriers and the like. Their threats are going to become more ominous until they cannot be ignored and it is too late. We have been here before. The world was not supposed to worry as Hitler built his arsenal and we know how that turned out.

Haven't we all been coerced by China and isn't it working up to now? China will go to war over this but will the US and the Asian allies we swore to protect? Is Russia going to join China in what would in reality be WW3 in an attempt to defeat us in Asia?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com