Friday, August 17, 2012

The Organization of Islamic Cooperation voted to suspend Syria, Syria lashes out!

what an Iranian and Syrian counter offensive might look like

Symbolic gesture by King Abdullah to Ahmadinejad: Leaders of member states of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) which is meeting in Mecca, is expected to endorse the decision Wednesday to suspend Syria. This measure was adopted Monday at a preparatory meeting of the foreign ministers of 56 countries plus the Palestinian Authority. By providing a special place to the Iranian leader, the Saudi king has made an important gesture, analysts said.

Saudi television has broadcast the meeting at which Ahmadinejad, wearing a dark suit and a shirt without a tie, appeared seated to the left of King Abdullah.
"This is a message to the Iranian nation, but I imagine also to the Saudi people, telling them that we are Muslims and we must work together and forget our differences," said Abdallah al Chammari, an analyst of Saudi policy. Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shi'ite Iran are engaged for several years in a struggle for influence in the Middle East and their rivalry was exacerbated by the civil war in Syria.
Wow, Ahmadinejad has been set up. Time to play your hand!

OIC suspends Syria over violent against rebels: The move had been approved on Monday at a preliminary meeting of OIC foreign ministers and was agreed on the summit's second night despite opposition from Iran. Saudi Arabia, the summit's host, has led Arab efforts to isolate Syria diplomatically and has backed calls for the Syrian rebel opposition to be armed, which Foreign Minister Saud al-Fasial described in February as "an excellent idea."

Saudi King Abdullah tried to conciliate Iran at the summit opening by placing President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at his side to welcome Muslim leaders in a gesture Saudi political analysts said was aimed at putting old grievances aside in the quest for a resolution to the Syrian crisis.In his first published comments since the summit opened, Ahmadinejad appeared to rebuff the Saudi move.

Syrian Foreign Minster Walid Muallem accused fellow Muslim nations Thursday of being behind the bloodshed in his country after the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation suspended Damascus. The OIC announced after an emergency summit in Mecca Thursday that it had suspended Syria's membership of the 57-nation body, expressing "deep concern at the massacres and inhuman acts suffered by the Syrian people." The Arab League had suspended Syria in November.

Syria: Bomb Explodes Near UN Hotel In Damascus: Free Syrian Army commander says blast targeted a military meeting rather than the UN observer mission. A bomb has exploded in Damascus near a hotel used by UN observers, wounding at least three people, according to Syrian state TV.It said the bomb was planted on a fuel lorry. The blast was in the car park of a military compound near the Dama Rose Hotel, an AP reporter said. The hotel and a Labour Union building across the road were both damaged.
The rebel Free Syrian Army said it had targeted a meeting between army officers and members of the Shabiha, a pro-government militia. An opposition activist in the capital reported smoke rising from the scene and ambulances arriving to treat the wounded. None of the victims were believed to be members of the UN mission sent to Syria to monitor former special envoy Kofi Annan's six-point peace plan aimed at ending the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad's regime.

None of it really matters. Assad will not quit Syria and Iran and Russia is not going to abandon Assad and not just because they want to keep their influence in Syria and they know they will lose it if Assad and the Alawite's fall.

As Syria's fall gets closer I reiterate: The realities on the ground are that Iran is influencing and interfering everywhere they possibly can in order to stop what they think is the US getting its way. It has nothing to do with doing the right thing for Syria as a whole. It has everything to do with keeping the US, the West, and Arabs from having events in Syria go their way and not the way of Iran, Russia, China and the rest of their allies.

This is all about the future direction of the entire middle east. The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia (Al Qaeda?) at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran but with Iran, the Gulf, Syria, and everything else who knows what will happen first.

We must contain this to the middle east and keep it from turning into WW3. This must be a middle east fight and problem or the entire world is in dire trouble and we have too much already as we try to move successfully through the 21st century. I am afraid we are failing our children in every regard. The Us and the Arabs are being blamed for this but absolutely it is Iran and Russia that is to blame. They want the new middle east order to go their way.

As such Iran and Russia are not going to give up Syria. To do so would be letting the US win and Putin to the demise of the Syrian people is not going to let that happen. Russia's weapons are being used to slaughter the people and they brag about it. Those are the only weapons Russia will allow. French President Nicolas Sarkozy likened Syrian leader Bashar Assad to a "murderer" while Russia said it was arming his regime enabling him to slaughter his people.

The Syrian people are being sacrificed in this the opening volley not just in the middle east but in the world against US hegemony! That is the only reason Putin got himself back into the Russian Presidency. The sole goal is to finish what was started under him and George Bush when he was gathering forces amongst Russia, China, the 35 non aligned nations and anyone else interested in stopping our efforts to rule the world.

Hezbollah and Iran's IRG armed by Russia have taken the lead in slaughtering the Syrian people to keep them and Bashar Al assad in control. This is just the opening volley in the war against US hegemony. Sorry to say but those Syrian people are being sacrificed in an opening volley for the war for position to see who holds prominence as we try to move through the 21st century.

I remember saying a year ago that the Syrian protesters are the bravest in the world as they know they at the least are facing dedicated Syrian and Iranian Revolutionary Guard killers and now we find out we were right on and then some. I know the protesters vowed not to be deterred stating they will break the Government period but there is no way. The Syrian Government will kill and arrest who they have too. Iran will accept nothing less!

I remember the Syrian opposition saying that they would not stop and would ultimately defeat the Government saying Democratic transition would safeguard Syria from violence. As outsiders looking in we know nothing could be further from the truth. People are being imprisoned and murdered and I can not see that stopping until the Democracy movement is crushed. Supposedly this expected situation is begging for us to get involved but we damn well better not. Unless that is going to war with Iran is the goal.

I remember saying from day one that it would take almost the whole military to defect before they would have a chance and now that we know how involved Russia, Iran and Hezbollah are in the slaughtering that is going on around the country that is beginning to look like the beginning of their fight.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Russia, China, and Iran are not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total middle east breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.

In closing: You know Putin just got himself reelected as President, he did this so he could be at the helm of Russia as he like me knows 100% that world war is our future. He plans on marshaling China who is rapidly building a more formidable military and whoever he can to take on US hegemony.Russia watched helplessly as we had our way in Libya. Putin blames what is happening in Syria on our interference and Libya for training the protesters to fight against Bashar Al-Assad.Russia and Iran will not let this be another Libya but at what expense?

Putin is going to do everything possible to keep us from helping the Syrian people and I really feel for them. I do not see this going down the way Libya did and Iran and Russia are going to make sure it does not. I am afraid the Syrian people are going to be sacrificed, sacrificed in what is merely an opening salvo in this the wars for future dominance. I just heard that Russia is gathering forces to go into Iran via Armenia for a quick strike through Georgia. We have a showdown setting up that looks disastrous for the worlds future. It will be a miracle if we can keep this from turning into WW3!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Demeur said...

I think we've come to the point were even the last bits of decorum have been thrown out the window. It matters not what sanctions or "strong statements" any person or nation makes at this point. Look no farther than our own political system to see that. The break down is beyond historical norms. The right wing has already called our president a liar. I'm just waiting for the day they use the N word on the floor of the house or senate. I almost know that day is coming.

As for Syria it may not land up like Libya but more like Somalia.

an average patriot said...

Man Demeur I wouldn't doubt it but I hope the hell you are wrong on the N word. That would be the end of us but you know I am sure there are some even in the Govt. that would like to see that happen.

You know, I don't think any so called leading country any longer cares what any other country thinks just as long as they get what they want then they get what they want and lie about it.

I get so bull shit when I hear us or anyone else say they strongly condemn something. That is worthless BS!

an average patriot said...

This was yesterday but look at this Obama threatens to attack Syria