Showing posts with label US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Show all posts
Showing posts with label US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Show all posts

Friday, October 09, 2009

Fearful of Iran's influence, Saudi king reaches out to Syria and the rest of the middle east is encouraged and uniting!


First I want to say Obama just won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize and I think that is fantastic not because of his accomplishments but because of his efforts to unite the world. It is a bit ironic for the President of a country fighting two wars to win the peace prize. However if he can bring peace to the middle east and bring Afghanistan to a successful conclusion. This award will be a fitting tribute and a message to the entire world to cooperate with Obama. This is big! A peace prize for hope not accomplishments man are we desperate! Now!

FACTBOX: Issues dividing Syria and Saudi Arabia

Fearful of Iran's influence, Saudi king reaches out to Syria

Saudi king aiming to split Syria-Iran alliance

Since it is starting to bear fruit I think it is time once again to revisit some of what we have discussed about Bush's attack on Iraq to get into the middle east with the goal of helping Israel create an new middle east (dis)order. Bush had long planned to attack Iran and unite the rest of the middle east to take Iran on. Our discussions go back 5 years so here are just a couple important highlights!

We as you know already upset the balance of power in the middle east and Bush purposely did it to go after Iran. What Gates proposed a couple weeks ago as to arming the middle east against Iran was already done by us. I had to go back to July 2007 to find the story but you will find this interesting because even under Obama this is still going to happen. The middle east is uniting against Iran and it will explode. This will in the end be long and ugly!

Balancing power they called it. U.S. promises of military aid or arms sales to strengthen its Middle Eastern allies against Iran and other regional foes was aimed at repairing a balance of power destroyed by the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. That is not what is going to happen or what this is about. Supposedly Toppling Saddam Hussein ended Iraq's role as a counterweight to Iran, a part it had played since the 1980s in a Gulf security system that Washington had hoped would contain the rival powers. Like everywhere else we tried to have our way it did not work! We set Iran free!

That was only the smallest of the repercussions. Toppling Saddam gave Bush the excuse to get into the middle east, upset the balance of the entire middle east as Bush knew would be the case, and set the stage for Bush's new middle east order that has long been planned and it will not stop now even under Obama. This is still just beginning but it will increase rapidly once the rest of the middle east unites. I had some interesting conversations yesterday in relation to yesterdays conversation on this story. I do not like what we see developing here.

That made me remember how long this has all been planned, and put the rest of this developing scenario together. After 50 years of middle east policy and not arming them to fight wars Bush has changed that in hopes of getting them to fight Iran and Syria. Hopefully Saudi Arabia will succeed in peeling Syria away from Iran now. The theory was that we would be freed to attack Iran from the Gulf as Iraq quiets and others fight Iran on the ground! Bush started this now Obama has pushed his effort to attack Iran in part to a proxy war via Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other so called middle east allies.

He will now be free to go after Pakistan and Iran from the Gulf with our carrier and battle Groups while others will be doing the brunt of the fighting and ground combat. Everything is almost prepared. Bush is prepared in the Gulf and we have a seasoned fleet Admiral in command of middle east forces set to lead events while others expend their efforts on Iran. Gorbachev was right and this will not be good. I have heard that we are thinking of sending undercover special forces to Turkey in order to combat Kurds from Iraq. I wouldn't put it past Bush at all but that too will backfire on us.

You know there are those of us that expected Bush to attack Pakistan too and I hope under Obama this can be avoided.. I expect it in conjunction with the attack on Iran this fall or shortly thereafter. Now he will be in a position to do it.With what he is now doing with Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other so called middle east allies, He will be freed to go after Pakistan while others focus on Iran. With our carrier and battle groups in the Gulf He will be free to take them both on. Bush is one happy camper. July 2007 Middle east balance of power Pay particular attention to the part of Bush's old plan from 2001 as it is coming to fruition. It is the part with the details listed called "a clean break"

So having pointed that out I still find it disingenuous for Gates to have said that the 'Arab world should arm against Iran' You know, on a good day the middle east was unstable but did not have the advanced weaponry the US Russia and China have made available to them. With the middle east now uniting to go against Iran this is going to be long and dirty unless they can uncharacteristically learn how to live together in peace!



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates says the Arab world should arm against Iran, Been there Done that!


Riz Khan - Nuclear double standard - Sep 7 2009 - Pt 1



We did that long ago! All right I found it. We as you know already upset the balance of power in the middle east and Bush purposely did it to go after Iran. What Gates is supposedly proposing today was already done by us. I had to go back to July 2007 to find the story but you will find this interesting because even under Obama this is still going to happen.

Balancing power they call it. U.S. promises of military aid or arms sales to strengthen its Middle Eastern allies against Iran and other regional foes seem aimed at repairing a balance of power destroyed by the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. That is not what is going to happen or what this is about. Supposedly Toppling Saddam Hussein ended Iraq's role as a counterweight to Iran, a part it had played since the 1980s in a Gulf security system that Washington had hoped would contain the rival powers.

That was only the smallest of the repercussions. Toppling Saddam gave Bush the excuse to get into the middle east, upset the balance of the entire middle east as Bush knew would be the case, and set the stage for Bush's new middle east order that has long been planned and he will not stop now. This is still just beginning but it will increase rapidly once Bush has others to fight for him. I had some interesting conversations yesterday in relation to yesterdays conversation on this story.

That made me remember how long this has all been planned, and put the rest of this developing scenario together. After 50 years of middle east policy and not arming them to fight wars Bush has changed that in hopes of getting them to fight Iran and Syria. Bush will be freed to attack Pakistan and Iran from the Gulf as Iraq quiets and others fight Iran on the ground! Bush has now pushed his effort to attack Iran in part to a proxy war via Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other so called middle east allies.

He will now be free to go after Pakistan and Iran from the Gulf with our carrier and battle Groups while others will be doing the brunt of the fighting and ground combat. Everything is almost prepared. Bush is prepared in the Gulf and we have a seasoned fleet Admiral in command of middle east forces set to lead events while others expend their efforts on Iran. Gorbachev is right and this will not be good. I have heard that we are thinking of sending undercover special forces to Turkey in order to combat Kurds from Iraq. I wouldn't put it past Bush at all but that too will backfire on us.

You know there are those of us that expect Bush to attack Pakistan too. I expect it in conjunction with the attack on Iran this fall or shortly thereafter. Now he will be in a position to do it.With what he is now doing with Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other so called middle east allies, He will be freed to go after Pakistan while others focus on Iran. With our carrier and battle groups in the Gulf He will be free to take them both on. Bush is one happy camper. July 2007 Middle east balance of power

So having pointed that out I find it again disingenuous for Gates to be saying that the 'Arab world should arm against Iran'

Yes, Ahmadinejad once again supplied the impetus for him to say that but the stage was set long ago and it will not be changed regardless of what we want because stolen or not Ahmadinejad is still in power and he will do his share to get this going as you can read. Ahmadinejad derided his nuclear and Political opponents by likening them to "pollutants" staining "the gown of the revolution

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com