Thursday, December 22, 2011

Action in Syria and Iran coming to an ugly head as Leon Panetta on "the Doomsday plane" threatens Iran

230 killed in 3 days of Syrian uprising 111 killed in Syria's "bloodiest day: Bashar killing as many as possible ahead of Arab League, At the same time on a plane titled "the Doomsday plane" where operations will be held in the event of a nuclear war Leon Panetta said Iran very close to a nuclear weapon and we will stop them. Meanwhile Syrian protesters due to increasing slaughter they want the Arab League and the United Nations security council to step in.

230 killed in 3 days of Syrian uprising - : Syrian forces battled army defectors and anti-government activists Wednesday, in violence human rights groups said killed more than 230 people in three days. More than 10,000 soldiers have deserted the Syrian army, and as many as half of those conscripted did not report for duty in the last three call-ups, Western intelligence agencies told Israel's Haaretz daily.

Activists say 111 killed in Syria's "bloodiest day: Rami Abdulrahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said 111 civilians and activists were killed in addition to over 100 casualties among army deserters in Idlib province, turning Tuesday into the "bloodiest day of the Syrian revolution."
"There was a massacre of an unprecedented scale in Syria on Tuesday," said French foreign ministry spokesman Bernard Valero. "It is urgent that the U.N. Security Council issues a firm resolution that calls for an end to the repression."

Panetta: Iran will not be allowed nukes: Leon Panetta, said despite the efforts to disrupt the Iranian nuclear program, the Iranians have reached a point where they can assemble a bomb in a year or potentially less. Secretary Panetta spoke with us at the end of an overseas trip during which he reviewed strategy in Afghanistan and formally ended the war in Iraq.

CBS News anchor Scott Pelley caught up with Secretary Panetta on his tour last week of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. On the way home, he boarded the jet nicknamed "The Doomsday Plane." This is the command post where he and the president would direct a nuclear war.

I am incensed! I am sure none of those in charge have been smart enough to put two and two together yet and realize what is happening and getting ready to happen. They are being played !

Iran not now and will not in the future stand idly by and allow Syria to fall to Democracy. You better know for a fact Iran's IRG is leading the atrocities against the protesters and Al Qaeda if not Saudi Arabia is helping the protesters. Both sides are fighting for what they think will be the future direction of the middle east.

Russia already has warships on sight prepared to protect their interests in Syria and Russia and China say they will protect their vast interest in Syria. It is no surprise that the whole package is coming to a head all at once meaning the Arab spring countries too along with Iraq which has already started to break. Question is can we keep it contained to the middle east and from erupting into WW3?

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total middle east breakdown Sunni against Shiite we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Vicki said...

Jim, I had a vivid dream the night before last that the US did strike Itran's nuclear facilities. It was quite clear that this must be done now especially with Syria's bloody repression and the entire instability of the Middle East. I for one have never advocated starting a war, but I am certain that if there is a time to stop the nuclear arms race in Iran and send a message to these bloody dictators, it is the present. I believe that President Obama and allies have discussed this and done many scenarios and that he will be ordering action very soon. My mind says yes although my heart says no but there will be no better opportunity than now. It is a very dangerous gambit but I believe we will act or support the action of other allies (Saudi Arabia and Israel are two who would want Iran neutered.

an average patriot said...

Hi Vicki! Wow! I hate to say it but I agree. Too much war but at this point we seem to have no choice but to react. I hate this because as I think you know I have three sons in this and they are career military.

Dave Dubya said...

As long as we have corporate personhood and money as "free speech" in our elections we shall have no democracy.

As long as we have politicians as loyal to Israel as to the US we shall have no stability in the Mideast. The Iranian "threat" is real only because we choose sides. Otherwise there would be no threat. Time to dismiss AIPAC pre-screening as the determining factor in our presidential elections and to secede from Israel.

Too bad common sense is not so common.

Have a good Christmas old buddy.

an average patriot said...

All right Dave, Merry Christmas to you. Money is not free speech and that pisses me off. I almost hate to say it but a good friend of mine Steve Grossman use to chair AIPAC and right now he is my (Ma.) treasurer.

You are right about common sense and the real war mongers Israel. We are simply Israel's lap dog and military arm and it peeves me to no end.