Tuesday, November 22, 2011

The United States wants a prominent role in Asia to counter China's developing aggression so why should Japan's trade move electrify anyone?

Obama, who heads on after the weekend summit to Australia and Bali, is using his APEC chairmanship to try to shape the commercial rules for a region that could dictate America's economic future. Transforming the once obscure Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) into an Asia-wide free trade zone is seen as the cornerstone of that effort, and it now includes two of the world's biggest economies, the United States and Japan.
Persuading Asian governments to accept new rules for state-owned companies and commit to reducing tariffs in agriculture will require hard bargaining and concessions from the United States on its own protectionist barriers. The elephant in the room is China, the world's second largest economy which risks being left out in the cold if the trade zone takes off.

The United States wants a prominent role in Asia to counter China's developing aggression
The U.S. move to "return to Asia" aims to gain more interests from Asia's regional development and cement its dominant position in Asia. First, it should learn to get along with China. Its "return" to Asia has drawn people's attention back to a possible confrontation between itself and China. Many Western scholars believe that the reassertion of the leading U.S. role in Asia is directed against China because only China's rise can pose a potential challenge to its hegemony. Furthermore, a few Asian countries hope to take advantage of the United States, especially its military power, to strike a so-called strategic balance with China.

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We have been discussing increased tensions due to ownership claims over long disputed islands and unrecovered raw material riches below the east and South China Seas for years. China is embroiled in territorial disputes with Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei Japan, and India:
China has been making all these ownership claims while warning other Asian countries to stay away. Meanwhile they have supposedly been building their world war machine with "innocent" intentions. China accuses Japan of exaggerating it as a military threat: It is no exaggeration it is called truth and you better be concerned and China calls weapons modernization drive warnings alarmist "cock-and-bull story. Also US senators warn Beijing on South China Sea, China warns US to stay out of it

All this to no avail as China's answer is always that her intentions are innocent "yeah like Hitler's military buildup prior to WW2" We must all stop playing these games at this point and like it or not "share" if we are to survive into the future. Sadly we know the powers to be are not smart enough to do that. We are already in severe trouble with the condition of the world environmentally and due to power struggles getting ready to erupt in the Middle East and make things horrifically worse in many regards.

Being in a superior position puts one in a unique position of power and that power must be handled gracefully, with humility, responsibly, and not abused. That is something I taught all my sons and America under Bush did a lousy job of handling.

I am a little worried that China too is getting a little too heavy handed and abusive with her new position of power and beginning to take what she wants instead of being content with what she has which is what I constantly lecture has to be the case if we are to have a future. The time when man and the planet could handle war and colonialism is over, period or else!

We are Taiwan's, the Philippines, and Japan's protectors and now Vietnam's. Vietnam is no real threat to China so what is up here? As China flex's their military muscles in the area we are not supposed to worry. Just what are we supposed to think they are going to do with their advanced weaponry, missiles, stealth aircraft, aircraft carriers and the like.

Their threats are going to become more ominous until they cannot be ignored and it is too late. We have been here before. The world was not supposed to worry as Hitler built his arsenal and we know how that turned out. If peace is truly the goal then try something unique and share the wealth. We need peace to succeed as a world into the 21st century not more and never ending war.

To make the situation worse as we've discussed often, the US is pledged to defend Taiwan who "at least they say" will never unify under China. There is no way we can get militarily involved with China's lust to rebuild Imperial China. Three years ago the US signed a deal to deliver a massive amount of advanced weaponry to Taiwan. The package includes a variety of U.S.-made weapons systems, including Patriot III anti-missile missiles, Apache attack helicopters, Harpoon missiles and Javelin anti-tank missiles.This was 3 years ago Some deliveries are in process and some still being worked out.

China is not taking this lying down! We have covered East, South, and China sea disputes extensively

Knowing all of this I must once again express naivety. We are so kept in the dark as to any truth in any incident here and around the world. I had no idea or even thought in this context but President Hu Jintao's call for a rejuvenation of the country 100 years after the Xinhai Revolution that ended more than 2,000 years of dynastic rule in China is something new to me. Worse part is that this includes Taiwan too and China is not going to settle for no! China Urges Reunification at 100th Anniversary of Demise of Last Dynasty

President Hu calls on all of China's sons and daughters to join hands to carry on with the work of the Chinese Republic's first president, Sun Yat-sen, and realize his ideals of what he described as “China's great rejuvenation.” China has not been building her military and flexing her muscles for nothing. China wants Asia period and not just supremacy. She is going to have her Dynasty once again United States be damned. I do not like this, once again we are putting ourselves right in the middle of a growing conflict or war.

James Joiner

Gardner, Ma



Ranch Chimp said...

Howdy Jim and Good Morning from the Ranch! Thanx for the read on China and let's just say ... "Their mornin excercise ..." heh, heh, heh, heh, heh ... we been playin game's with China for year's Jim, I did some past posting's on their intrusive software and their lil game's they played on folk's and even our politician's a few year's back when they had the Olympics ... I also long to see the day where the old deadwood commi's are out from over there, and believe me, it WILL happen ... as you know, I look for a great future alliance with this nation too ... it might just take a lil shoulder bumping to get there is all. I look at China as just flexing their muscle a tad, to see if they still got it basically, they know damn well as us that they DO NOT want a conflict with the west, were the best friend that they ever had, and they hold the largest portion of our debt as well ... but they are playing game's in my opinion to see just what our reaction will be, but too Jim ... that's just my opinion. Beside's ... if our relationship went to Hell ... so would the world market's, trade and every other damn thing, like a goddamn dominoe's collapse. The other day when folk's were frightened (usual media wuss's) about President Obama's move to simply assign troop's to Northern Australia, the media looked scared with those scary faces and panic look asking Why? ... What does this mean? Does it have to do with China? ... I said .... What it mean's is simple ... it mean's Australia invited us, were allies, and were also protecting our interest's ... and it show's the dictating class of China just where we stand, so I support 110% when the President done that ... beside's ... I alwayz consider Philippines too, as like a state of the U.S., I have quite a few familia there, and it's the same as here pretty much culturally.

Other than that ... of course I expected the Patriots to win last night, against the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are so- so, their not that bad ... as say like Buffalo is this year, if I recall straight, they were first on the board with a field goal. But right after the halftime, man oh man did the Pats crank it up, eh ... they put like 24 point's on the board right there within a 10 minute span of the 3rd.

Miami will be in Dallas to take on the Boyz for turkey day ... and their fairly matched up, so it should be a good un ... fixin to cook up some chow ... Later Jim

an average patriot said...

Yeah RC, I have been foolowing developments over the South China sea and China was really taken aback.

China wants to be boss over there and take the vast resources she wants even if others claim them.

All the other countries want us to take charge over there and help them out.

Supposedly Asia is our new focus as we stupidly think we are winding down in the middle east.

Good fucking luck with that! Unfuckingbelievable

Yeah that was a great game. They are starting to play as they should. Gronkowski is unbelievable!

Demeur said...

I don't quite see all this happening for a couple of reasons. First much of our military hardware is made overseas. Even many of the components that we use building them here are from overseas. Our military is stretched too thin. What are there now something like 500 bases around the world? Looking more like the Roman empire by the day. The costs will eventually collapse us. Another point is one of demographics and an aging population. Each generation is getting smaller and smaller. I think you can see where this is all going and I'd say it will come to a head in the next ten years if not sooner.

an average patriot said...

I don't know what it is today Demeur but last year we had 700 bases. I just checked and saw 737 but it seems we're building more not leaving them.

Anyway China is pissed as they believe Asia and its riches is there's. Now we are saying Asia is our new priority since we are leaving the middle east. Good frigging luck with that!