Tuesday, November 01, 2011

US 'held meeting with Haqqanis' compliments of their protectors Pakistan, tells Pakistan to make them negotiate

US 'held meeting with Haqqanis': She said the US held one preliminary meeting with the Haqqani network "to see if they would show up". "In fact, the Pakistani government officials helped to facilitate such a meeting," Mrs Clinton told Pakistani journalists. She added: "We have reached out to the Taliban, we have reached out to the Haqqani network to test their willingness and their sincerity, and we are now working among us - Afghanistan, Pakistan and the United States - to try to put together a process that would sequence us toward an actual negotiation." The only way Pakistan could facilitate such a meeting is if they were complicit protecting them and new where they were!

US changes approach to pressing Pakistan on Haqqani network: Faced with Pakistan's unwillingness to uproot the Haqqani network from its territory, Washington is now pressing Islamabad to force the Afghan insurgent group to join peace talks, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested Friday. Clinton stressed, however, that if Pakistan doesn't move quickly, the United States would be forced to act unilaterally against Haqqani safe havens in Pakistani territory. We know where they live, we should just kill them!

These days Pakistan wants us to believe the Haqqani's and Pakistan have parted ways, Pakistan after Afghanistan and the Haqqani's are after us at least for now. However old and new proof shows us Pakistan is still protecting, aiding, and seemingly directing the Haqqani's. We have discussed this for years and it is time to take the matter into our own hands regardless of what it does to our relationship with Pakistan. The Haqqani's are standing in the way of our success and departure.

With the death of Osama Bin Laden we were asked what his death would mean for the war in Afghanistan. Like the so called war on terror which includes the Taliban, Al Qaeda of every creed, and extremists of every ilk looking to carry on Osama's vendetta against the west, it will serve to fuel their cause. His death should mean just the opposite and it does to all true Muslims.UBL "Osama Bin Laden, betrayed Islam!

The Haqqani's are most important to the war on extremists in Afghanistan. Eradicating them is of utmost importance to our ability to succeed and go home as we hopefully really are in the process of right now. There is good reason why we are having increasing success but first, the Haqqani's and their legendary stature are holding the so called terrorists force together. Their stature is legendary and hard earned.

The Haqqani network and their increasingly foreign fighters have become the main focus after 9 years of fighting. The Haqqani Network's North Waziristan leadership -- usually called the Miram Shah Shura consists of a number of Haqqani family members and closely associated long-serving commanders.

The Taliban think they are getting away with something but they are being watched closely by JSOC ready to pounce and take them out when given the command. I say give it now and save lives. My guess is the command has been given because the Haqqani's have been going down en-masse. The network is important but I think "they" should take out the Haqqani's first. I wish we would quickly kill the Haqqani's, both Jalaluddin and Sirajuddin and leave the rest to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

I have to laugh! The Haqqani's are not stupid they know how to play the game. They know we have long accused Pakistan more pointedly the ISI of controlling the Haqqanis. They also know that of late we have come out and accused elements of the Government and ISI of initiating the action against the west and Afghanistan.

Sadly the ISI has been complicit with the Haqqani's, Mullah Omar and other anti Afghanistan and anti American extremists from the beginning. The CIA was complicit with the ISI. The killing of 7 CIA agents by a suicide bomber changed this for the CIA. However you are not going to get the ISI to "switch sides" They have had a relationship with the Haqqani's since they were helping them fight the Russians.

Anyway you look at it we are viewed as temporary and the violent convoluted backstabbing tribal relationships will always be a way of life in the border area especially. We can only be very concerned how this is going to turn out between NATO, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. It won't be translucent or good!

*When all is said and done I believe in the old adage "there is honor amongst thieves" I do believe Sirajuddin Haqqani when he said he is talking to the CIA and the Haqqani's had nothing to do with killing Rabbani. I absolutely believe Pakistani interests did it as has been proven out. The Haqqani's seem to be home based in Afghanistan now and have wisely severed their ties with Pakistan.

The Haqqani's seem true to Mullah Omar who want us out of Afghanistan and want their independent Afghanistan. Pakistan has proven they do not want a free and independent Afghanistan but want to control it. At this point I want to say our soldiers have done their job let them come home as scheduled if not sooner. Let Mullah Omar the Haqqani's and other Taliban interests fight for Afghanistan it is theirs not ours or Pakistan's. Good luck Hamid Karzai that's all I say!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Demeur said...

People have this impression that Pakistan has the resources and a large military that runs the entire country. That couldn't be further from the truth. There are some areas in the North that even the national government will not go without permission from the local elders because it's too dangerous. A quick CIA overview puts Pakistan at near a third world country even though we pumped over a billion into the place.

an average patriot said...

I agree with you Demeur! I don't think they run the country but do control the tribes who live to take down Afghanistan and eliminate the west. I absolutely believe they are largely in the same position as Iran's IRG