Thursday, March 18, 2010

Glen Beck says leave your church if they preach social and economic justice it is communist and Nazism! What?

I first have to tell you I left the Mormon church years ago not because they preached social and economic justice but because they were too strict and there was no room for human error. Social Justice is their Mantra. Social and economic justice is the mantra and very core of every church I know.

Knowing the lunacy of Glen Beck I was stunned to find out he was a Mormon. He is accusing the Mormon Church of preaching communism and Nazism? what the heck is wrong with that guy? I am embarrassed that I have a son and a brother that think that fool and Rush Limbaugh are next to God. What the heck is wrong with so called good sensed Americans? They believe this crap!

Social Justice? Isn't that what Jesus preached? Did I miss something? Rev. Jim Wallis, who leads the Christian social justice group "Sojourners" in Washington, D.C. has begun a "Tell Glenn Beck: I'm a Social Justice Christian" campaign on his Web site, one Christian minister is now calling for a boycott of Beck's TV and radio shows. The idiot should be committed!

Others for years have argued that the terms social justice and economic justice are used by communists as substitutes for Marxism, socialism and collectivism. Okay so what? We are talking about Christianity, churches not Nazi's or communists. All churches should be offended and all religions should boycott Beck not turn in their priests and pastors as Beck suggests. Mormons, other Christians decry Glenn Beck comments on social ...

This guy is a loon, a rich loon but nevertheless a loon and a roadblock to a peaceful harmonious society. Beck it the enemy not priest pastors, pastors, and ministers!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Weaseldog said...

“Lay not up to yourselves treasures on earth: where the rust, and moth consume, and where thieves break through, and steal. But lay up to yourselves treasures in heaven: where neither the rust nor moth doth consume, and where thieves do not break through, nor steal.” – St. Matthew 6:19-20

"Verily I say unto you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God" (verses 23, 24).

Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." - Matthew 19:21

Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. -Luke 12:33

You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
—Matthew 5:38-42

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.
—Luke 6:27-31.

How much more Republican could the New Testament be?

Vicki said...

I truly sympathize with you as my only sibling is a "charasmatic Catholic" who agrees with Beck, Hannity, and Rush on everything. She bought a gun after Obama was elected and is preparing to overthrow the "Marxist, Satanist" government. On Beck's part, he is a very rich entertainer, albeit a dangerous ideologue to those who believe in his BS. I will definitely support Jim Wallis in his campaign against this creep.


Good God!

James what could they have been feeding these so-called Christians (Christian fundamentalists)?

They probably were fed mad cow's milk when they were growing up. Could be the only explanation -- why else would they become insane?


"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.
—Luke 6:27-31."

This is real Christianity.

But I guess those repubs re-wrote the Bible.

These fundamentalists are really like the Talibans. A gun in one hand and the Holy Book in the other. And what Glenn Beck is saying is like the Christian fundamentalists' Fatwa!

Can't believe how backward they're all becoming.

an average patriot said...

Gee Weaze I didn't know you were so well read on the Bible. I did not know suing was that old I just thought we started that crap.

an average patriot said...

Vicki it is sick! I am blown away that people can be that stupid let alone my eldest son who is career military and a gun toting Republican.

He bought my 5 year old Granddaughter a pink gun can you believe it. He is ready to do his share. It is sick!

an average patriot said...

Anna they are idiots who will say anything to get their way. That ass Limbaugh said if health care passes he is moving to Costa Rica.

That jerk! Costa Rica has socialized health care and they rank better than us, 36 us 37, That is sick!

an average patriot said...

I believe in do unto others as they do undo you and that is my life but when it comes to these sicko Republicans you cant ignore them or turn the other cheek. Do so at your own peril!

Demeur said...

I've said it once and I'll repeat myself yet again. Turn these people off. These were the nut jobs who were once relegated to the ends of the AM radio dial. Let's put them back there.

Weaseldog said...

Jim, in Sunday School, we were instructed to read the Holy Bible, so I did.

And that's what led to me being thrown out. And ultimately my loss in faith in Christianity. And certainly my loss of respect for the clergy.

Perhaps they should have been clearer about what not to read in the Bible. With all of the murder, rape, sex, orgies, infidelity, incest etc... I young teen can become a bit confused about what God wants from us.

Dave Dubya said...

I hate to break the news to Beck and his Beckerheads. Jesus was a liberal SOCIALIST!

I really wish He would come back and slam the Republicans and other hypocrites. "Course, they would send Him to Gitmo or bomb Him with a drone if they couldn't capture Him.

I wonder why Jesus is so downright un-American? Or is America downright anti-Jesus.

Anti-Jesus "Christians" are what we have around here.

an average patriot said...

Demeur I wish it was that easy but you ignore the likes of that idiot and it will be to our peril because they influence a lot of fools!

an average patriot said...

Wease I have to laugh! I went to Sunday school, CCD, and Bible class, Hell I read the Bible every night during my stint as a Mormon, and I don't remember any of that!

an average patriot said...

That is funny as hell Dave leave it to you. You are right he was a socialist. Does that make him a communist pinko fag? Wait a minute I heard something along that line.

cal said...

First I would like to state that Jesus Christ was not a socialist, He came as a Redeemer, to save those who were lost, and to bring people into a saving knowledge of who He was, and why He came. To set people free from their sins, in order for a
"people called out" to have a living and loving relationship with Him, and in Him.
Now I find it very interesting that many of you have used scriptures to support the reason for a 'socialist philosophy'.
. And it is true that in today's society most of the religious institutions of all denominations error greatly in presenting the True Jesus Christ, and what He stood for.
He came to bring people to share in His Kingdom which is not of this World. It is a Heavenly Kingdom.
Now Weasledog quoting from Matt 6. You must understand the context from which these words were spoken and to whom. He was addressing the Jewish nation, for He was the Messiah to come as foretold in the Old Testament. In his (speech) He was expressing what Mercy, and forgiveness stood for. For He walked everything He taught. He was the total expression of His teachings, which represented the Love of God. There is nothing socialistic in this, due to the Pharisee's and Sadducee's twisting of scriptures, most Jews were not practicing mercy, and taking care of the poor of the day. So Jesus was showing what true Faith in God was, and once God's Mercy and forgiveness was shown them, He wanted them to do the same, by the Grace of God.
Regards to Matt 19:21, again taking into context is needed. This was Jesus informing a rich young man (Jewish) what He should do if he wanted to be perfect in regards to following the law.
Because in the verses prior this rich young man asked him in verse 16 “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus responded in the next verses 17-18, so this young man thought he would inherit eternal life due to his keeping of the commandments. But, Jesus could see into the heart of man, and therefore told him what was required of “him”. This man loved his possessions. And did not want to give them up, so he was not perfect, Jesus made sure he saw this, and it turned him away, for his motive was not pure. It's not wrong for a person to have money, as long as it does not “rule” him, and become an idol.
But regarding the Matt 19:23&24, He was not saying it was not possible for a rich man to enter into Heaven, it was difficult, but not impossible for he supports that in the following verse of 26. That with man on his 'own' merit it was not possible, but with God's Grace all was possible.
Now in respect to Luke 12:33 Jesus is saying to His disciples that should only place their total trust in God and His provisions for them, and not to place their trust in 'material' things.
You see it's the love of money that is evil for it is covetousness. Sinners are free to do with it as they please, they are not bound by the Love of God in serving Him.
Now regarding Matt 5:38-42 This is talking to those that 'know' the Lord and are called by His name, this is not for unbelievers, or sinners. These are instructions on how to act towards those that mistreat them, for righteousness sake, again He is teaching what He was walking, He suffered more than any other human being has through out all the ages. For He was innocent of all charges but was crucified because the world did not want the kind of God He was representing, But in order for them to do as stated in Matt 5, they can only do it with the Power of the Holy Spirit, God's spirit dwelling within them. It is in Him they may do all these things.
Human beings can not do what is stated in the scriptures given, for they are not Born of God's spirit.
Fallen man will try to 'imitate' Jesus moral principles for they deem it good, but it actually brings man into further bondage of sin and rebelliousness against God.

cal said...

A comment to Hillblogger just because all the presidents that have stated they are Christians does not prove they are or ever have been. Their actions of their lives have proven such, that includes, Bush Jr, Clinton, and Obama who has publicly stated he was. None of them have been, for "if" they truly were, they would never become President. Why? For the Kingdom of God is not of this World.
It is a terrible shame that these men have brought such reproach to the name of Jesus Christ, but God is greater and His testimony shall come forth from those who do truly know him.
These so-called "fundamentalists" are only "religious" they know not the Christ who was Crucified.
You see in true Christianity there will be true justice, and charity,
for even the Lord teaches that
"any man who refuses to work, they should not eat". We are to give according to as the Lord has prospered each believer, that means that a believer must take care of his family first when considering to give to help another. And we are taught to use righteous judgment. For example, there are many people on the street begging for money, some demand, and that is getting worse each year. Now if they should say can I have money for coffee, I will offer to buy a coffee, if they insist on getting their own, then I know they are not telling the truth, they want it for other purposes. If someone is hungry, and I offer to buy food and they except, then they are being truthful, but that does rarely happen.
So we are instructed in using God's Wisdom.
The World just gives out freely, not making them accountable for nothing.
There are many who beg who are capable of working, and I tell them so, laziness is selfishness, self love, thinking themselves more important than those they are requiring money from, they feel the world owes them something, when in fact it does not. Each man and woman is accountable to themselves before God, believe it or not.
Now to Weasledog, I see you must have suffered when thrown out even though you do not mention the specific's, I too have been shown the door. But my faith is not in "Christianity" my faith is rooted in the keeping Power of Christ Himself, for all shall fail me, but my heart and eye's trust in the Lord and His faithfulness to me.
So when others fail you, He never leaves you or forsakes you, this is Eternal Security and Mercy.
Yes in the Bible, there is "murder, rape, sex, orgies, infidelity, incest etc.," it is showing what the fallen sinful nature of man is capable of. Just like all the movies and t.v shows, all this is portrayed before our eyes. So what does God want from mankind, to see their fallen nature and to know there is no hope for them unless they accept their fallen state, and call out to Him, for forgiveness, and to change their wicked hearts to be lovers of God and not lovers of man. And those that truly seek this out, for God will cause a man or woman to seek this out, for "no man seeks after God, no man desires to know God" unless God draws man to Him.

cal said...

Greetings everyone,

So you see, what is happening is that the religious are setting up the New World Order, where there will be Peace and Prosperity for all!
Or is it true? It may be for some, but not for all.
What we are seeing happening, is each President is preparing each new Presidency to the ultimate removal of the "Sovereignty" of the US. By destroying the Constitution. Almost each President has been guilty of this since FDR, that was the intro of "The New Deal", which is based on the Communist Manifesto put together by the men at Jekyll's Island. Then the manipulation of the Great Depression to usher in this New Deal.
It's all about NWO, and we all know that, we hear it all the time now in the news, even Obama made mention of this fact in Europe. So it is out in the open.
But the NWO will be worse than Hitler's regime, for it will be set upon the Whole World this time, not just part, and this is what all the presidents in the last 40-50 years have been working towards. So no one can just blame one or two, each have done their share, preparing the way for the next.
Bit by bit and they all know it.
And deep down inside you all know it, at least you should, or you surely are blind, and desire not to see.
But this NWO is playing out according to God's plan for He allows rebellious mankind, to insist on having their way, but the way leads unto destruction and the final judgment of all the evil of mankind and their ruler, Satan himself, believe it or not.
But the Righteousness of the Lord shall prevail, and then there shall be true Justice and Righteousness for all, and every tear shall be wiped away, no more sorrow, no more fear, and no death. For everything that stands for evil and the author of it shall be put away forever more, and a New Heaven and a New Earth shall come forward, choose you know whom you will serve. All mankind's only hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ, but only a few that enter in.
Thanks for the opportunity of expressing my thoughts. The Lord Bless you.

cal said...

Glen Beck is responding to Jim Wallis "Social Justice" and Jim Wallis does not preach the truth concerning the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and what He stands for.
Jesus said in Mat 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
Poverty has always existed due to the fall of man into sin, brought about through Adams disobedience. Poverty is due because of sin.
Jim Wallis thinks to wipe out poverty by "forcing" the Marxism believe system upon ALL. This is force, also known as violence. This is what is known as "the son of perdition", also known as the lawless one. Jim Wallis represents everything that is against what Jesus Christ stood for. And this religious spirit is what I tried to explain in my other comments.
Even men who are without Christ can use human reasoning in realizing what is good and what is wicked. Greg Beck's calling out to leave 'social justice' churches is right and proper. All those who do know the Lord Jesus Christ must leave these churches for they are Apostate.
Jim Wallis who is by the way Obama's new "spiritual adviser" preaches a different Gospel, and it is an abscess to the true nature of a Holy, and Just God, Jesus Christ.
Jim Wallis is an enemy of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ. He is encouraging another era of 'Religious Fascism'
The meaning of Fascism is as follows:
: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality —
There you have it, there is no denying what is happening in the US and the World. Both parties Republicans and Democrats are guilty in working towards this goal.
Be not deceived.