3% collateral damage acceptable in killing militants by Drone? Yes!

* The Pakistani government said Wednesday that 3% of 2,227 people killed in U.S. drone strikes since 2008 were civilians, a surprisingly low figure that sparked criticism from groups that have investigated deaths from the attacks.

The number, which was provided by the Ministry of Defense to the Senate, is much lower than past government calculations and estimates by independent organizations that have gone as high as 300. The ministry said 317 drone strikes have killed 2,160 Islamic militants and 67 civilians since 2008.

* A surprising number of Pakistanis are in favour of drone strikes:  So when Sofia Khan, a school administrator from Islamabad, travelled with hundreds of anti-drone campaigners to a ramshackle town bordering the restive Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) last October she was stunned by what some tribesmen there had to say.

One man from South Waziristan heatedly told her that he and his family approved of the remote-controlled aircraft and wanted more of them patrolling the skies above his home. Access to the tribal regions is very difficult for foreign journalists; but several specialists and researchers on the region, who did not want to be identified, say there is at least a sizeable minority in FATA who share that view.

I have discussed the use of drones in the past and of course I have a controversial viewpoint on this. If you think about the growing situations around the world requiring not boots on the ground necessarily but watching I believe 100% you will agree.As I always say you must look at the whole picture before forming an opinion, that certainly applies here too.

Under Obama from the beginning The United States has stepped up its attacks with the pilot less drone aircraft attacks in Pakistan even more so since a double agent blew himself up at a U.S. base in Afghanistan on December 30, killing seven CIA agents. The so called weak President on terror has drastically increased the use of like it or not what has become an important tool in the so called war on terror, drones. We should have used them exclusively in Afghanistan, we could have saved Billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.

Are we at war or not? I am not going to say the US should be able to put boots on the ground wherever she wants in this still just beginning so called war on terror but it must be realized and acknowledged that like it or not the US is a prime target if not the main target and is the prime face in the so called war on terror.

The big argument against the use of Drones is innocent people are sometimes killed. I am sorry for that but question the numbers as the extremist we are killing in every instance say we are killing civilians when we are killing them to anger civilians and create and enforce world sentiment against the use of drones.

We have been saying from the beginning that this is a new kind of war, a war like no other. We the entire world better make believe they realize that and act accordingly. Our future depends on it. Everyone who reads my reports knows I did not trust Bush and Cheney an iota. They made me question everything we have done in the past.

That said, I would hope that Obama has no designs of dominating the sovereignty of Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Africa, or anywhere else we have to go to prosecute this so called war on terror. Muslim countries do not want our boots on the ground so they have to allow openly or clandestinely our use of drones in this the first war of the 21st century!

The uses of Drone’s are a necessary evil even as just an observer as the events in Syria, Iran, and the Arab spring countries certainly must prove. They are our equalizer as IED’s are the militant’s necessary evil and equalizer in the new battlefront! The draw back in IED’s or drones is civilian casualties, by the extremists killing civilians is their goal not so called collateral damage. Civilians always pay the price!

That said, civilian casualties are hard to verify as the so called enemy inflates the numbers to win the media war for hearts and minds with wild allegations as we are not allowed to put boots on the ground in Yemen or Pakistan. We can not relent and we must all increase our efforts and do what we can to ensure our success and our successful future!

35 years ago I was in hardened nuclear missile silo's 70 feet underground. I am sure we are still there to counter any threat from China or Russia. We have a command devoted to operating and maintaining these systems. I agree that we should be doing the same thing with drones. Reading the link at the top I knew Drones were being used in Yemen, Somalia, and Libya but was surprised to read about the even more wide spread housing and use of Drones.

It is a necessary evil and at the very least I firmly believe we should set up a separate command dedicated to their use and maintenance. I firmly believe all our troops around the world not just in Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, the Philippines, Africa, and everywhere else they are openly and clandestinely should be brought home where they are needed and we should be watching events around the world with drones.

If countries do not want them there they can get rid of the so called terrorist threat by policing themselves and we will have to go home or be the unnecessary aggressor we appear to be.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

The much maligned Drone is increasingly turning the tide

Major al-Qaida leaders killed in US drone strikes

Al Qaeda's deputy leader, Abu Yahya al-Libi, was killed in a drone strike in northern Pakistan, an American official confirmed on Tuesday, in the biggest single success in the controversial campaign's eight-year history.

The drone strike occurred on Monday in a small village outside Mir Ali, a major hub of Pakistani and international militancy in North Waziristan Province. At the time, American officials announced that Mr. Libi had been the strike’s target, but could not confirm his condition. Pakistanis living in the area of the strike reported that he had been either killed or seriously wounded, and that 15 other people had been killed.

Mr. Libi, who was believed to be in his late 40s, moved up to become Al Qaeda’s deputy, behind Ayman al-Zawahri.

One of the most senior al-Qaeda figures in Afghanistan was killed in a weekend air strike, Nato-led forces say. In a statement, Nato described Saudi-born Sakhar al-Taifi as the group's second-most senior figure in Afghanistan. Sakhar al-Taifi died in "a precision air strike" in the Watahpur district of Kunar province, according to a Nato statement. Another rank and file member of al-Qaeda was killed at the same time. Al-Taifi, who also went by the names of Mustaq and Nasim, arranged for weapons and insurgent fighters to be transported into Afghanistan, Nato says.

I have discussed the use of drones in the past and of course I have a controversial viewpoint on this. If you think about the growing situations around the world requiring not boots on the ground necessarily but watching I believe 100% you will agree.As I always say you must look at the whole picture before forming an opinion, that certainly applies here too.

Under Obama from the beginning The United States has stepped up its attacks with the pilot less drone aircraft attacks in Pakistan even more so since a double agent blew himself up at a U.S. base in Afghanistan on December 30, killing seven CIA agents. The so called weak President on terror has drastically increased the use of like it or not what has become an important tool in the so called war on terror, drones. We should have used them exclusively in Afghanistan, we could have saved Billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.

Are we at war or not? I am not going to say the US should be able to put boots on the ground wherever she wants in this still just beginning so called war on terror but it must be realized and acknowledged that like it or not the US is a prime target if not the main target and is the prime face in the so called war on terror.

The big argument against the use of Drones is innocent people are sometimes killed. I am sorry for that but question the numbers as the extremist we are killing in every instance say we are killing civilians when we are killing them to anger civilians and create and enforce world sentiment against the use of drones.

We have been saying from the beginning that this is a new kind of war, a war like no other. We the entire world better make believe they realize that and act accordingly. Our future depends on it. Everyone who reads my reports knows I did not trust Bush and Cheney an iota. They made me question everything we have done in the past.

That said, I would hope that Obama has no designs of dominating the sovereignty of Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Africa, or anywhere else we have to go to prosecute this so called war on terror. Muslim countries do not want our boots on the ground so they have to allow openly or clandestinely our use of drones in this the first war of the 21st century!

The uses of Drone’s are a necessary evil even as just an observer as the events in Syria, Iran, and the Arab spring countries certainly must prove. They are our equalizer as IED’s are the militant’s necessary evil and equalizer in the new battlefront! The draw back in IED’s or drones is civilian casualties, by the extremists killing civilians is their goal not so called collateral damage. Civilians always pay the price!

That said, civilian casualties are hard to verify as the so called enemy inflates the numbers to win the media war for hearts and minds with wild allegations as we are not allowed to put boots on the ground in Yemen or Pakistan. We can not relent and we must all increase our efforts and do what we can to ensure our success and our successful future!

35 years ago I was in hardened nuclear missile silo's 70 feet underground. I am sure we are still there to counter any threat from China or Russia. We have a command devoted to operating and maintaining these systems. I agree that we should be doing the same thing with drones. Reading the link at the top I knew Drones were being used in Yemen, Somalia, and Libya but was surprised to read about the even more wide spread housing and use of Drones.

It is a necessary evil and at the very least I firmly believe we should set up a separate command dedicated to their use and maintenance. I firmly believe all our troops around the world not just in Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, the Philippines, Africa, and everywhere else they are openly and clandestinely should be brought home where they are needed and we should be watching events around the world with drones.

If countries do not want them there they can get rid of the so called terrorist threat by policing themselves and we will have to go home or be the unnecessary aggressor we appear to be.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Suspected US drone kills 3 militants in Pakistan: Why now? It speaks for itself

Suspected US drone kills 3 militants in Pakistan: Unmanned U.S. aircraft fired missiles into a home in a tribal region of western Pakistan on Wednesday, killing at least three militants, local intelligence officials said, in an attack that ended a lengthy pause in drone strikes that have become the mainstay of U.S. efforts to quash militants fueling violence across the border in Afghanistan.

The Obama administration contends that drone strikes have helped weaken the central leadership of al Qaeda and put associated militant groups on the defensive. For whatever reason, the latest lethal drone strike appears to demonstrate that if there was any kind of moratorium on such attacks, it has now been lifted. Pakistan admit it or not obviously is seeing the error in her ways.

US ends longest lull in drone strikes over Pakistan. Why now?: The US insists it believed the position of stopping them was held by militants, who use the border region as a staging ground for attacks on NATO troops in Afghanistan. A logistics operative with the Haqqani terrorist group, which uses sanctuaries in Pakistan to carry out attacks on allied troops in Afghanistan, said militants could still hear drones flying surveillance missions, day and night. “There are still drones, but there is no fear anymore,” he said in a telephone interview. The logistics operative said fighters now felt safer to roam more freely

That feeling of safety is over and the Haqqani's and other so called terrorists better watch out because they are not safe. All those over flights they heard were observing only and can now act on what they saw.

A nearly two-month lull in American drone strikes in Pakistan has helped embolden Al Qaeda and several Pakistani militant factions to regroup, increase attacks against Pakistani security forces and threaten intensified strikes against allied forces in Afghanistan, American and Pakistani officials say.

The Central Intelligence Agency, hoping to avoid making matters worse while Pakistan completes a wide-ranging review of its security relationship with the United States, has not conducted a drone strike since mid-November. Diplomats and intelligence analysts say the pause in C.I.A. missile strikes — the longest in Pakistan in more than three years — is offering for now greater freedom of movement to an insurgency that had been splintered by in-fighting and battered by American drone attacks in recent months.

Bomb kills 35 in Pakistan tribal area: Pakistan's deadliest terror attack in months had killed 35 people and injured 69 others in the Taliban-affected north-west. The remote controlled bomb was detonated in a busy market place.

The troubled Khyber tribal region serves as the main supply route for NATO forces in Afghanistan and is a stronghold of the Taliban in Pakistan and al-Qaeda affiliated fighters and other armed groups opposed to the government. Obviously Pakistan has taken note. In the past militants used US supply trucks as the excuse for attacks in the Kyber pass. With the US gone and the attacks continuing it is obvious militant attacks continued only Pakistan has become the target as they should have expected.

15 Kidnapped Pakistani Soldiers Executed by the Taliban in a Retaliatory Gesture: The executions followed the death of a high-ranking Taliban commander on Sunday and came just days after local news media reported that several factions of the Taliban had vowed not to attack the Pakistani military.

Army officials in Pakistan say militants have killed 10 paramilitary troops they had been holding hostage since last month. Military official Naeem Khan said the bodies of the Frontier Corps soldiers were recovered on January 6 in the Orakzai region near the Afghan border. Khan said the 10 men were seized last month in a raid on a security base in Orakzai. Last week, militants killed 15 soldiers they had been holding in North Waziristan, near the border with Afghanistan.

As they have from the beginning Pakistan officially objected to the operations against suspected al Qaeda and Taliban militants along its border with Afghanistan, saying they violate its sovereignty to satisfy their citizens. At the same time Islamabad has pushed Washington to provide it with the drones to allow it to carry out its own attacks on Taliban insurgents, a move that could ease widespread anti-American sentiment in Pakistan.

Under Obama from the beginning The United States has stepped up its attacks with the pilot less drone aircraft attacks in Pakistan even more so since a double agent blew himself up at a U.S. base in Afghanistan on December 30, killing seven CIA agents. The so called weak President on terror has drastically increased the use of like it or not what has become an important tool in the so called war on terror.

Are we at war or not? I am not going to say the US should be able to put boots on the ground wherever she wants in this still just beginning so called war on terror but it must be realized and acknowledged that like it or not the US is a prime target if not the main target and is the prime face in the so called war on terror.

We have been saying from the beginning that this is a new kind of war, a war like no other. We the entire world better make believe they realize that and act accordingly. Our future depends on it. Everyone who reads my reports knows I did not trust Bush and Cheney an iota. They made me question everything we have done in the past.

That said, consider the source! I would hope that Obama has no designs of dominating the sovereignty of Pakistan, or anywhere else we have to go to prosecute this so called war on terror. Muslim countries do not want our boots on the ground so they have to allow openly or clandestinely our use of drones in this the first war of the 21st century!

The uses of Drone’s are a necessary evil. They are our equalizer as IED’s are the militant’s necessary evil and equalizer in the new battlefront! The draw back in IED’s or drones is civilian casualties. Civilians always pay the price!

That said, civilian casualties are hard to verify as the so called enemy inflates the numbers to win the media war for hearts and minds with wild allegations as we are not allowed to put boots on the ground in Pakistan.

Therefore civilian casualties are Pakistan’s fault as all sides agree we can not relent and we must all increase our efforts and do what we can to ensure our success and our successful future!

Pakistan admit it or not obviously is seeing the error in her ways. Allowing the drones or at least feigning anger at the attacks is a necessary evil to Pakistan's very existence at this stage of the game. It has become totally obvious To Pakistan I hope that we need each other. If we are not in the picture the militants will have the freedom and luxury to turn on them and they will. Pakistan better be very concerned because they are in a lose lose situation and when all is said and done they and there nukes are the militants targets.


James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Police kill Tehrik-i-Taliban Balochistan�s commander 15 soldiers executed in retaliation, now 10 more : Pakistan better let the drones back and quick

Police arrest four militants in Karachi : Crime Investigation Department (CID) of Karachi yesterday said they busted a gang of Taliban in western slum of the city and arrested four militants including Karachi chief Tehreek-e-Taliban of Pakistan. The CID police also recovered a suicide jacket besides rockets and other assault weapons, Fayyaz Khan, the superintendent of police said. 

A press conference was informed that the police carried the raids overnight on a tip-off and arrested the four militants from Manghopir Road and Suparco Mor (turning) and arrested Abdul Qayyum Meshud, an alleged ameer (chief) of TTP Karachi. Mohammad Sharif Mehmand, Habib Khan Mehsud and Usman Mehsud were also arrested in the raids, Khan told a press conference. Abdul Qayyum Mehsud, the police said, was a trained terrorist and he also remained bodyguard of Baitullah Mehsud, the chief of TTP in Pakistan.

Tehrik-i-Taliban Balochistan�s commander killed in Karachi: KARACHI: Police claimed killing the commander of Tehrik-i-Taliban Balochistan Yaseen Shah in Karachi’s Gulshan-i-Jamal area on Saturday, Dawn News reported. Shah’s accomplice Abdul Qadir was arrested from the scene of the clash in which two CID officials also suffered injuries.Police claimed that Shah was also the mastermind behind the recent hand grenade attacks on mobile phone franchises.

A nearly two-month lull in American drone strikes in Pakistan has helped embolden Al Qaeda and several Pakistani militant factions to regroup, increase attacks against Pakistani security forces and threaten intensified strikes against allied forces in Afghanistan, American and Pakistani officials say.

The Central Intelligence Agency, hoping to avoid making matters worse while Pakistan completes a wide-ranging review of its security relationship with the United States, has not conducted a drone strike since mid-November. Diplomats and intelligence analysts say the pause in C.I.A. missile strikes — the longest in Pakistan in more than three years — is offering for now greater freedom of movement to an insurgency that had been splintered by in-fighting and battered by American drone attacks in recent months.

Bomb kills 35 in Pakistan tribal area: Pakistan's deadliest terror attack in months has killed 35 people and injured 69 others in the Taliban-affected north-west. The remote controlled bomb was detonated in a busy market place.

The troubled Khyber tribal region serves as the main supply route for NATO forces in Afghanistan and is a stronghold of the Taliban in Pakistan and al-Qaeda-affiliated fighters and other armed groups opposed to the government. I hope Pakistani's realize Americans are not there to blame and they and their sovereignty are the target. For their own good like it or not they better let America back and quick.

15 Kidnapped Pakistani Soldiers Executed by the Taliban in a Retaliatory Gesture: The executions followed the death of a high-ranking Taliban commander on Sunday and came just days after local news media reported that several factions of the Taliban had vowed not to attack the Pakistani military.

Army officials in Pakistan say militants have killed 10 paramilitary troops they had been holding hostage since last month. Military official Naeem Khan said the bodies of the Frontier Corps soldiers were recovered on January 6 in the Orakzai region near the Afghan border. Khan said the 10 men were seized last month in a raid on a security base in Orakzai. Last week, militants killed 15 soldiers they had been holding in North Waziristan, near the border with Afghanistan.

As they have from the beginning Pakistan officially objected to the operations against suspected al Qaeda and Taliban militants along its border with Afghanistan, saying they violate its sovereignty to satisfy their citizens. At the same time Islamabad has pushed Washington to provide it with the drones to allow it to carry out its own attacks on Taliban insurgents, a move that could ease widespread anti-American sentiment in Pakistan.

Under Obama from the beginning The United States has stepped up its attacks with the pilot less drone aircraft attacks in Pakistan even more so since a double agent blew himself up at a U.S. base in Afghanistan on December 30, killing seven CIA agents. The so called weak President on terror has drastically increased the use of like it or not what has become an important tool in the so called war on terror.

Are we at war or not? I am not going to say the US should be able to put boots on the ground wherever she wants in this still just beginning so called war on terror but it must be realized and acknowledged that like it or not the US is a prime target if not the main target and is the prime face in the so called war on terror.

We have been saying from the beginning that this is a new kind of war, a war like no other. We the entire world better make believe they realize that and act accordingly. Our future depends on it. Everyone who reads my reports knows I did not trust Bush and Cheney an iota. They made me question everything we have done in the past.

That said, consider the source! I would hope that Obama has no designs of dominating the sovereignty of Pakistan, or anywhere else we have to go to prosecute this so called war on terror. Muslim countries do not want our boots on the ground so they have to allow openly or clandestinely our use of drones in this the first war of the 21st century!

The uses of Drone’s are a necessary evil. They are our equalizer as IED’s are the militant’s necessary evil and equalizer in the new battlefront! The draw back in IED’s or drones is civilian casualties. Civilians always pay the price!

That said, civilian casualties are hard to verify as the so called enemy inflates the numbers to win the media war for hearts and minds with wild allegations as we are not allowed to put boots on the ground in Pakistan.

Therefore civilian casualties are Pakistan’s fault as all sides agree we can not relent and we must all increase our efforts and do what we can to ensure our success and our successful future!


James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

US setting up secret drone bases in Africa, Indian Ocean to curb emerging triple Al Qaeda threat: The wider use of Drones is a necessary evil

US setting up secret drone bases in Africa, Indian Ocean: The United States is reported to be expanding a secret drone program in east Africa and the Arabian peninsula in order to gather intelligence and strike al-Qaida-linked militants in Somalia and Yemen.

I have discussed the use of drones in the past and of course I have a controversial viewpoint on this. If you think about the growing situations around the world requiring not boots on the ground necessarily but watching I believe 100% you will agree.As I always say you must look at the whole picture before forming an opinion, that certainly applies here too.

Under Obama from the beginning The United States has stepped up its attacks with the pilot less drone aircraft attacks in Pakistan even more so since a double agent blew himself up at a U.S. base in Afghanistan on December 30, killing seven CIA agents. The so called weak President on terror has drastically increased the use of like it or not what has become an important tool in the so called war on terror, drones. We should have used them exclusively in Afghanistan, we could have saved Billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.

Are we at war or not? I am not going to say the US should be able to put boots on the ground wherever she wants in this still just beginning so called war on terror but it must be realized and acknowledged that like it or not the US is a prime target if not the main target and is the prime face in the so called war on terror.

The big argument against the use of Drones is innocent people are sometimes killed. I am sorry for that but question the numbers as the extremist we are killing in every instance say we are killing civilians when we are killing them to anger civilians and create and enforce world sentiment against the use of drones.

We have been saying from the beginning that this is a new kind of war, a war like no other. We the entire world better make believe they realize that and act accordingly. Our future depends on it. Everyone who reads my reports knows I did not trust Bush and Cheney an iota. They made me question everything we have done in the past.

That said, I would hope that Obama has no designs of dominating the sovereignty of Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Africa, or anywhere else we have to go to prosecute this so called war on terror. Muslim countries do not want our boots on the ground so they have to allow openly or clandestinely our use of drones in this the first war of the 21st century!

The uses of Drone’s are a necessary evil even as just an observer as the events in Syria, Iran, and the Arab spring countries certainly must prove. They are our equalizer as IED’s are the militant’s necessary evil and equalizer in the new battlefront! The draw back in IED’s or drones is civilian casualties, by the extremists killing civilians is their goal not so called collateral damage. Civilians always pay the price!

That said, civilian casualties are hard to verify as the so called enemy inflates the numbers to win the media war for hearts and minds with wild allegations as we are not allowed to put boots on the ground in Yemen or Pakistan. We can not relent and we must all increase our efforts and do what we can to ensure our success and our successful future!

35 years ago I was in hardened nuclear missile silo's 70 feet underground. I am sure we are still their to counter any threat from China or Russia. We have a command devoted to operating and maintaining these systems. I agree that we should be doing the same thing with drones. Reading the link at the top I knew Drones were being used in Yemen, Somalia, and Libya but was surprised to read about the even more wide spread housing and use of Drones.

It is a necessary evil and at the very least I firmly believe we should set up a separate command dedicated to their use and maintenance. I firmly believe all our troops around the world not just in Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, the Philippines, Africa, and everywhere else they are openly and clandestinely should be brought home where they are needed and we should be watching events around the world with drones.

If countries do not want them there they can get rid of the so called terrorist threat by policing themselves and we will have to go home or be the unnecessary aggressor we appear to be.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Live: Battle for tripoli plus Saif is free and vows Rebels led into a trap and will be destroyed

Live: Battle for Tripoli Gaddafi compound under attack right now!

To see Seif, who has become as hated as his father during the six-month conflict back on the streets a free men, was a great shock for the rebels. To see him on TV footage on the international media boasting to foreign journalists there that his father’s government was still “in control” was something nobody could have envisaged. He was full of himself as he said the regime had lured the rebels into a trap. It raised significant questions about the credibility of rebel leaders. It was not clear whether Seif had been in rebel custody and escaped, or was never held at all. His brother, Mohammed, who reportedly was on house arrest was also free, having escaped on Monday. Seif al-Islam showed up at the Hotel, in a convoy of armoured Land Cruisers. In brief comments he said his father and several of his sisters were safe in Tripoli, and that loyal troops had "broken the back" of the rebels who moved into the capital over the weekend.

He said news of his arrest had been a trick by the rebels, and that he had been travelling around Tripoli in his armoured convoy the entire time. He went on to say that government forces had lured the rebels into a trap in the capital, and that Al Qathafi loyalists "have broken the spines of those rats and those gangsters.

Gaddafi had me for one convinced of a blood bath and he still make make sure there is one. Some 200 rebels rode into Tripoli's port and marched through the suburbs with Tripoli rebels to give them support. Gaddafi had earlier opened up the armories and issued AK47's to all the residents and anyone who wanted a weapon.

With no resistance rebels advanced quickly and I just heard on the news they have now made it to the center of Tripoli, Green Square where all the pro Gaddafi supporters were rallying to support him. It seems like Rebel efforts to reach the tribes loyal to Gaddafi and encourage them to rebel against Gaddafi or at least not to take up arms in his defense.

It seems to have worked at least up to now. It seems all the citizens have taken their arms and stayed home, the tribes that supported Gaddafi seem to have melted away for now. Rebels were able to rive right into Tripoli and arrest Seif Al-Islam without a fight.Seif who vowed to fight to the death and die on Libyan soil. Hm!

I was just listening to Gaddafi while writing this and he was laughing saying don't worry this is not over. The guy is a madman and has always made me nervous. I would put nothing past him. Months ago he warned of a blood bath with hundreds of thousands being killed. Libyan rebels enter Tripoli and arrest Gaddafi's son

Ghaddafi is not gone yet. His son Khamis is on his way with a Brigade of killers to protect his father and take back Tripoli. It is his threat to kill hundreds of thousands with his plentiful WMD that concerns me.

I remember a couple months back hearing that Gaddafi had issued gas masks to the murderous soldiers that supported hm. Remembering his original statement many thousands will be killed I am afraid he is getting closer to using his cyanide, mustard gas and vast reserves of chemical weapons. I have not heard anything about those weapons nor have I heard anything from the supposed 200,000 soldiers still supporting Gaddafi.

I have to wonder what horrible trick Gaddafi has up his sleeve. His demise seems to be near but you have to be very concerned as to what will come next in Libya. It is not just Libya we have to be concerned with as you know.

It would be nice to see this end with a Democracy but with Libya's many tribes many which supported Gaddafi including his own tribe plus the Islamists some of which have been fighting for the rebels I see a long hell here and combined with what we have done in Iraq and Afghanistan along with the still growing Arab spring and Syria and Iran...

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Misrata Libyans now fear chemical weapons are coming next, me too

Moammar Gadhafi's forces used tanks to shell the besieged western town of Misrata on Monday, as rumors fueled fears that the Libyan leader was preparing to use chemical weapons. Hundreds have been killed in Misrata over the past two months as Gadhafi has attempted to seize the only major rebel bastion in the west of Libya

The Libyan government said Sunday that ruler Moammar Gadhafi's son and his three grandchildren died in a NATO air strike, and vowed to retaliate with death to "invaders" in the nation. That was predictable but the rebels better be even more fearful and wary of horrific methods and forms of slaughter being used on them.

This is only going to make him slaughter more people. He and his children will go nowhere, they will have to be killed.He is slaughtering his people and it is a must he be targeted. Anyone around him can not be considered a civilian as they are complicit in the slaughter. Remembering his original statement many thousands will be killed I am afraid he is getting closer to using his cyanide, mustard gas and vast reserves of chemical weapons.

We are getting dragged into a third protracted war with a Muslim country. This is going to work against us. We are also gearing our navy with weapons to deal with the unique threat Iran portrays in the Gulf. We are getting more involved with Syria which will bring Iran on. I am absolutely nonplussed over all this! We are getting dragged into a vicious protracted ground war unless we can target and kill all Gaddafi's and their followers and I do not see that as a possibility.

Gaddafi is right now issuing gas masks to those doing his murdering for him. What choice will we have but to drop a MOAB (mother of all bombs) or a 30,000 pound bunker buster in the middle of his compound designed to dig 7 or 8 stories underground before detonating and take as many of them out as we can. They are not going to relent period. WTF?


James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

The death of Moammar Gaddafi's grandchildren are on his head! He will slaughter more now

NATO hits government building, says not targeting Gaddafi

Russian MP criticizes NATO for Gaddafi air strike

Gaddafi's inner circle feels betrayed by Britain It boils down to openly slaughtering your own people!

Scepticism surrounds 'Gaddafi son's death' They are dead wrong to say it is now the law of the jungle and Libya loyalists now know it has nothing to do with protecting civilians. Oh contra-re it was put on the law of the jungle long ago by Gaddafi his broken promises and senseless slaughter of his people. Going after all the Gaddafi's is a must if a new Libya of the people is to have a chance.

The Libyan government said Sunday that ruler Moammar Gadhafi's son and his three grandchildren died in a NATO air strike, and vowed to retaliate with death to "invaders" in the nation. That was predictable

This is only going to make him slaughter more people. He and his children will go nowhere, they will have to be killed.He is slaughtering his people and it is a must he be targeted. Anyone around him can not be considered a civilian as they are complicit in the slaughter. Remembering his original statement many thousands will be killed I am afraid he is getting closer to using his cyanide, mustard gas and vast reserves of chemical weapons.

We are getting dragged into a third protracted war with a Muslim country. This is going to work against us. We are also gearing our navy with weapons to deal with the unique threat Iran portrays in the Gulf. We are getting more involved with Syria which will bring Iran on. I am absolutely nonplussed over all this!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Britain in Libya 'for long haul' Good for them! Libya: Britain 'may have to look at' deploying ground troops: you asked for it

Remember the tribal chiefs Gaddafi said were on his side and would finish his slaughter in Misrata? CHIEFS or representatives of 61 tribes across Libya last night called for an end to Muammar Gaddafi's dictatorship, in a statement released by French writer Bernard-Henri Levy. They want a free Democratic and united Libya under Democratic principles, that is fantastic!

Britain in Libya 'for long haul' Good for them!

Britain's Hague warns UK and allies must prepare for long haul in Libya Nope they wanted it them and France got it, I want to see them and the rebels stand up and do this themselves.

Italy once Libya's colonial ruler has succumbed to pressure by the US, Britain, and Franc to join in the fray in order to try and bring this to an end or so the allies think. Silvio Berlusconi said Italian air-force jets will carry out strikes against Libya as NATO seeks to break an impasse in the nine-week struggle to oust Muammar Qaddafi’s regime. Italian planes will target military installations in Libya, Berlusconi told reporters in Rome today after ...

Despite the growing effort by NATO as expected Libya: Col Gaddafi remains defiant as fighting rages on: Col Muammar Gaddafi remained defiant after his compound was hit by Nato bombs as fresh fighting raged in the besieged city of Misurata.

Libya: Britain 'may have to look at' deploying ground troops

Good luck Britain we are already doing enough. We are getting in deeper and deeper. I understand Gaddafi has a lot on some of our misleaders and they do not really want to kill him but we are getting dragged into a third protracted war with a Muslim country. This is going to work against us. We are also gearing our navy with weapons to deal with the unique threat Iran portrays in the Gulf. We are getting more involved with Syria which will bring Iran on. I am absolutely nonplussed over all this!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

US using armed drones in Libya is a game changer

13 Libyan soldiers, including a General turned themselves over to the Tunisian military at the border as rebels seize border post. The rebels seized the Wazin post after up to 200 pro-Gaddafi soldiers fled to Tunisia on Thursday.Libyan rebels 'seize Tunisia border post' A spokesman for the rebel transitional council, Abdul Hafeez Ghoga, said Col Gaddafi wanted a ceasefire because his forces were being destroyed by Nato air strikes. That I would have to hear for myself!
Libya conflict: EU awaits UN approval for deployment of ground troops

Libyan government troops pounded the besieged rebel-held city of Misrata overnight, undeterred by Western threats to step up military action against Muammar Gaddafi's forces.

NATO has issued a new warning to Libyan civilians to stay away from military areas -- foreshadowing plans for stepped-up air strikes on targets seen as strategically significant in stopping the Gadhafi regime's attacks against civilians, according to a NATO military official. NATO warns Libyans to avoid military areas

Britain, France and Italy are sending military advisers and the US contribution is going to be drones.US to use armed drones over Libya Those are going to be the game changer as they will be able to watch for muzzle flash of tanks and weapons hiding in buildings.

Misrata: Lethal stand-off explained

Misrata map: City under siege

Tripoli witness: Covert defiance

We are getting in deeper and deeper. I understand Gaddafi has a lot on some of our misleaders and they do not really want to kill him but we are getting dragged into a third protracted war with a Muslim country. This is going to work against us. We are also gearing our navy with weapons to deal with the unique threat Iran portrays in the Gulf. I am absolutely nonplussed over all this!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

We are getting too close to Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Omar and the rest as Pakistan Wants US to Halt Drone Strikes

Pakistan Wants US to Halt Drone Strikes, We are killing too many Al Qaeda and Taliban
Pakistan demands drawdown of US drones, CIA agents We are killing too many Al Qaeda and Taliban!

Pakistan Wants US to Halt Drone Strikes

after the newest complaint U.S. drone strike kills 6 in Pakistan South Waziristan

As we discussed, new and increased drone attacks came in Khyber, an area abutting Afghanistan’s Nangahar province, that was notably drone-free. It had become an area for militants fleeing military action in South Waziristan. They also brought the drone-strike tally for last year up to 113, more than twice the 53 strikes the year before. But those figures don’t begin to tell the whole story.

According to a tally kept by the Long War Journal, 58 of those strikes have come since September: There has been a drone attack every 1.8 days since Labor Day. “unprecedented since the U.S. began the air campaign in Pakistan in 2004.” (By contrast, in 2008, there were just 34 strikes.) Both Roggio and the New America Foundation have found that the overwhelming majority of this year’s strikes have clustered in North Waziristan: at least 99. I wish I could find the numbers for this year but you know they are increasing as we knew they would and sadly must.

That torrid pace of attacks should make it beyond debate that the drones are the long pole in the U.S.’s counterterrorism tent, even if the drone program is technically a secret. So called extremists have their equalizer "the IED", ours is the drone. The Pakistanis haven’t sent their Army into North Waziristan so it is up to our drones like it or not. While most Pakistanis remain ignorant of the strikes, those in the tribal areas live literally in their shadow, and register enormous discontent, approving of retaliatory attacks on U.S. forces.

There’s no official or universally accepted figure of how many civilians have died as a result of the strikes, but New America pegs it at around 25 percent of all fatalities. Long War Journal’s registry is more generous, claiming that 1,671 militants and 108 civilians have died in the strikes since 2006. I just don't know since as we know that complicit Afghan's will say they were civilians killed though they were Taliban just to get the people angry and on their side.

A United Nations report urged Obama to rein in the drones, restricting them to attacks on the senior most militants. He did the opposite. Most are against the drones but I am not as long as civilian harm is minimized or preferably negated. The new area we have been in is supposed to be used by militants only. I have to believe we are starting to hit the top of Al Qaeda and the Taliban where some in the ISI have strong bonds.

Anyway don’t expect Obama to heed that warning in 2011 either. After reading the administration’s war-progress report, The New York Times‘ David Sanger noted that background discussions with administration officials made it clear that next year (2011) “the pace will be picked up as we would expect it to.” The technology certainly enables it: The Predator is giving way to the Reaper drone, which carries a bigger payload; while weapons manufacturers are lightening the weights of air-launched precision missiles. General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Knowing our many discussions of late as to the ties between the Taliban, the Haqqani's, and elements in the ISI I am very concerned to find out they are in fact keeping elements who want to kill the Haqqani's from doing so and being so open about it so I thought we better discuss the ISI and the Haqqani's once again. These developments are not good! This really bothers me. I am not going to elaborate on the vile nature of Pakistan actively working against anti Taliban factions. That will be denied but it is fact!

I understand Mullah Omar is under control by elements of Pakistan's ISI and not allowed to roam too far. High level Taliban commanders are also being flown by NATO to Kabul in at least one instance and driven from Pakistan by NATO escort to Kabul to have these secret meetings with Hamid Karzai. They are so secret that mid level commanders deny these meetings are happening and vow to fight on period!

I believe the Haqqani's the ISI and maybe China who just built a railroad right through Taliban country are all protecting Bin Laden and nothing will get resolved without Pakistan playing a key role. I firmly believe they could kill the Haqqani's today if they wanted and put an end to this.

As you know, the US is increasingly taking matters into its own hands inside Pakistan. The Haqqani's network and their increasingly foreign fighters have become the main focus after 9 years of fighting. The Haqqani's Network's North Waziristan leadership -- usually called the Miram Shah Shura consists of a number of Haqqani's family members and closely associated long-serving commanders.

At the top of the network is Sirajuddin Haqqani's, who oversees the group's political and military activities and is the main liaison to the Mullah Muhammad Omar led Quetta Shura Taliban, the Taliban's leadership body (named for the capital of Pakistan's Baluchistan province). He is also one of the network's liaisons to Pakistani Taliban figures and al-Qaeda.

He travels regularly into Afghanistan to coordinate with field commanders and occasionally to Peshawar and South Waziristan to connect with militants there. Remember Bowe Bergdhal? There are many field commanders in Afghanistan, but turnover is high because many get killed or captured. The most prominent is Mullah Sangin, who is believed to be holding Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl a captured U.S. soldier and Zakim Shah the movement's shadow governor of Khost province.

Jalaluddin Haqqani legendary leader who fought the Soviets and his son, Sirajuddin who directs operations are increasingly the targets of drones and now manned NATO aircraft in Pakistan as the Pakistani's have been leery to go in the area for whatever reason. Many are being killed, I heard over 80 in a week with no civilian casualties.

I wish we would quickly kill the Haqqani's, both Jalaluddin and Sirajuddin and leave the rest to Pakistan as our invasion of their country even to kill Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters who were known killers of NATO forces may be the straw that broke the camels back.

I would hate to see this unite the Haqqani network with Pakistan against us. I think those in the ISI protecting Mullah Omar, the Haqqani's, Al-Zawari, Bin Laden and the lot can be persuaded to give them up and cooperate in working for peace with the Taliban if we cooperate with them this time. We must include Pakistan in these talks, they are the key. We must truly give peace a chance! This is a real tight rope act and I do not like the way this is developing!

We are getting closer hitting a nerve and I can finally see success if Pakistan and the ISI cooperate.




James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

The drone wars! Are we at war or not?

PBS: "Targeting the Taliban"


McCain and Lieberman offer reassurance about relations with US as Pakistan renews call for end to US drone strikes to improve them!

While Lieberman and McCain were in Pakistan touting our cooperation and success in the drone program they both promised to continue Pakistan has renewed calls for an end to US drone aircraft strikes, an issue that could strain ties as the CIA hunts down Muslim militants after one of the deadliest attacks in its history in neighboring Afghanistan. In Pakistan, McCain and Lieberman offer reassurance about ...

As they have from the beginning Pakistan officially objects to the operations against suspected al Qaeda and Taliban militants along its border with Afghanistan, saying they violate its sovereignty to satisfy their citizens. At the same time Islamabad has pushed Washington to provide it with the drones to allow it to carry out its own attacks on Taliban insurgents, a move that could ease widespread anti-American sentiment in Pakistan.

Under Obama from the beginning The United States has stepped up its attacks with the pilot less drone aircraft attacks in Pakistan even more so since a double agent blew himself up at a U.S. base in Afghanistan on December 30, killing seven CIA agents. The so called weak President on terror has drastically increased the use of like it or not what has become an important tool in the so called war on terror. Pakistan renews call for end to US drone strikes

Are we at war or not? I am not going to say the US should be able to put boots on the ground wherever she wants in this still just beginning so called war on terror but it must be realized and acknowledged that like it or not the US is a prime target if not the main target and is the prime face in the so called war on terror.

We have been saying from the beginning that this is a new kind of war, a war like no other. We the entire world better make believe they realize that and act accordingly. Our future depends on it. Everyone who reads my reports knows I did not trust Bush and Cheney an iota. They made me question everything we have done in the past.

That said, consider the source! I would hope that Obama has no designs of dominating the sovereignty of Pakistan, Yemen, or anywhere else we have to go to prosecute this so called war on terror. Muslim countries do not want our boots on the ground so they have to allow openly or clandestinely our use of drones in this the first war of the 21st century!

The uses of Drone’s are a necessary evil. They are our equalizer as IED’s are the militant’s necessary evil and equalizer in the new battlefront! The draw back in IED’s or drones is civilian casualties. Civilians always pay the price!

That said, civilian casualties are hard to verify as the so called enemy inflates the numbers to win the media war for hearts and minds with wild allegations as we are not allowed to put boots on the ground in Yemen or Pakistan.

Therefore civilian casualties are Yemen and Pakistan’s fault as all sides agree we can not relent and we must all increase our efforts and do what we can to ensure our success and our successful future!






James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com