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Attack on US in Libya fuels anti-militia backlash: Tens of thousands of Libyans marched to the gates of one of the country's strongest armed Islamic extremist groups Friday, demanding it disband, as the attack that killed the U.S. ambassador and four other Americans sparked a public backlash against militias that run rampant in the country and defy the country's new, post-Moammar Gadhafi leadership.
"If they are the 'supporters of Shariah' then who
are we?" he said. "We don't want the flag of al-Qaida raised over heads," he
added, referring to Ansar al-Shariah's black banner. One elder resident at the
Sahaba Mosque sit-in, Ramadan Youssef, said, "We will talk to them peacefully.
We will tell them you are from us and you fought for us" during the civil war
against Gadahfi. But "if you say no (to integrating into the) police and army,
we will storm your place. It's over."
Libyan militia in Derna 'to disband': A powerful
militia in eastern Libya has announced it will disband, hours after military
police and protesters routed militias from the city of Benghazi. Leaders of the
Abu Slim Brigade said the group would dissolve and quit its bases in Derna, east
of Benghazi. Another militia group, Ansar al-Sharia, suspected of a deadly
attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, was also reported to be leaving
Derna.
Libyan army evicts militia in Tripoli:
Commander in chief Yussef al-Mangush said on his Facebook
page that members of the militia were arrested and that their weapons were
confiscated. The sound of gunfire was heard in the area at 9 am (0700 GMT) and
lasted less than a minute, an AFP journalist said.
The move comes a day after the Libyan authorities announced the decision to dissolve all militias that do not come under state authority and set a 48-hour deadline for armed groups to evacuate strategic property in Tripoli.
The move comes a day after the Libyan authorities announced the decision to dissolve all militias that do not come under state authority and set a 48-hour deadline for armed groups to evacuate strategic property in Tripoli.
Pakistan's Lashkar were the first to form and stand
uo to the Islamists and it has been a few years now. I sure hope this is a
movement because this is what Islam needs to take it from the clutches of the
Osama Bin Laden influenced terrorists. 25 killed, hundreds injured
in violent protests against anti-Islam film:
Angry and violent protests plunged the country into chaos on Youm-e-Ishq-e-Rasool (PBUH) on Friday as at least 25 people were killed and hundreds injured in addition to widespread damage to private and public property in nationwide protests against a blasphemous, anti-Islam film.
Fuming protesters fought pitched battles with police and law enforcement agencies in Peshawar, Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore and several other cities. Most of the protests were violent despite repeated calls to hold peaceful rallies by the government, political leaders and religious scholars.
Angry and violent protests plunged the country into chaos on Youm-e-Ishq-e-Rasool (PBUH) on Friday as at least 25 people were killed and hundreds injured in addition to widespread damage to private and public property in nationwide protests against a blasphemous, anti-Islam film.
Fuming protesters fought pitched battles with police and law enforcement agencies in Peshawar, Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore and several other cities. Most of the protests were violent despite repeated calls to hold peaceful rallies by the government, political leaders and religious scholars.
More
than 10 years in Bin Laden was still at the helm running the show in his
personal vendetta against the west. He wanted to expand his perverted Jihad
against the US and urged all Muslim's and minorities to go after railroad's and
small towns. Knowing that some in inter service intelligence agency and in the
Pakistan Government were complicit from the get go and our Government knew that
Osama Bin Laden had to be killed.
He is
now dead but his personal vendetta lives on. However it looks like a vendetta
against Islam as much as a vendetta against the west. All of islam must pay heed
to what Bin Laden's once right hand man learned years ago.
Noman Benotman loved and respected Bin Laden but like Al Zawahiri Al Qaeda number two he did not think Bin Laden was very smart. However, he did not have to be. He got this so called Jihad going and has incited the Islamist rancor he intended. whether he's Dead or alive the battle is on. For Islamists this has taken on a life of its own. In reality Bin Laden is still the greatest enemy of his people. Remember the open letter we discussed from Noman Benotman Bin Laden's personal friend and fellow freedom fighter against the Russian's?
Bin Laden is solely responsible for all this war death and destruction. He's no frigging hero to Muslims. They should have hunted him down themselves and ended this! Noman considered himself a freedom fighter and he was. He fought alongside Bin Laden against the Russians but said these wars have nothing to do with Islam. It is purely political and it is time to lay down arms, 100% and end all this senseless violence.
We know this but Noman says to Al Qaeda and now Islamists of all stripes the vendetta offers meaning to those who have none and gives them a cause but has nothing to do with Islam or Jihad. This all boils down to communications and I agree but Islamists are not interested in communicating. They are interested in our destruction. violence is their communication.
Osama is dead now so the message goes to Osama's followers: Stop bringing shame on Islam. Stop killing your own people. Stop bringing death and destruction on them. Osama forsook Mullah Omar who invited him into Afghanistan to give him protection. Bin Laden used Afghanistan for his own personal war against the west, the US, and Israel. This is not Islam , this is not Jihad. Restore Muslim integrity, end this now!
* Osama Bin Laden is now dead, he has betrayed Islam and defamed and betrayed Muslims and their religion. His personal vendetta against the west will continue fueled by his death and fought by extremists who have nothing else to do. Fighting the west gives them a purpose. If it is to stop Islam must step up and police itself.
Noman Benotman loved and respected Bin Laden but like Al Zawahiri Al Qaeda number two he did not think Bin Laden was very smart. However, he did not have to be. He got this so called Jihad going and has incited the Islamist rancor he intended. whether he's Dead or alive the battle is on. For Islamists this has taken on a life of its own. In reality Bin Laden is still the greatest enemy of his people. Remember the open letter we discussed from Noman Benotman Bin Laden's personal friend and fellow freedom fighter against the Russian's?
Bin Laden is solely responsible for all this war death and destruction. He's no frigging hero to Muslims. They should have hunted him down themselves and ended this! Noman considered himself a freedom fighter and he was. He fought alongside Bin Laden against the Russians but said these wars have nothing to do with Islam. It is purely political and it is time to lay down arms, 100% and end all this senseless violence.
We know this but Noman says to Al Qaeda and now Islamists of all stripes the vendetta offers meaning to those who have none and gives them a cause but has nothing to do with Islam or Jihad. This all boils down to communications and I agree but Islamists are not interested in communicating. They are interested in our destruction. violence is their communication.
Osama is dead now so the message goes to Osama's followers: Stop bringing shame on Islam. Stop killing your own people. Stop bringing death and destruction on them. Osama forsook Mullah Omar who invited him into Afghanistan to give him protection. Bin Laden used Afghanistan for his own personal war against the west, the US, and Israel. This is not Islam , this is not Jihad. Restore Muslim integrity, end this now!
* Osama Bin Laden is now dead, he has betrayed Islam and defamed and betrayed Muslims and their religion. His personal vendetta against the west will continue fueled by his death and fought by extremists who have nothing else to do. Fighting the west gives them a purpose. If it is to stop Islam must step up and police itself.
Pockets of Muslims have had enough of the extreme Sharia rules
and law. They have had enough of the senseless killing of themselves "good Muslims". What is happening in Libya after the senselss murder of their friend
the U.S. Ambassador. The people have said enough is enough, we have had enough
of your harsh rules and murdering of your own people. You must put down your
weapons and join our army and society or else. This is beautiful, they must
police themselves if we are ever to put an end to this. Power to the
People!
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com
3 comments:
Hey Jim! A buddy by the name of Nabil is from the City of Casablanca and told me some pretty wild stories about extermist muslim's, Nabil is ALSO muslim (and Arab), but one story he told me (I wrote it also in a recent posting, cant recall which one though) when he was going to college back home, he was talking/ lecturing concerning keeping islam out of politic's (they have a Monarchy if I recall) ... he was targeted and muscled by student's who were extremist's, even once held to a wall with a knife to his throat. Also another guy that also hang's with Nabil, who is from the City of Rabat, told me the same shit, his name is Lotfi (also arab/ muslim), so yes, there is bigtime pressure from their "own" people ... a lil more extreme though than say the religious fundamoralist's of America, such as Fred Phelps, KKK or such (yes, KKK indentify as a xtian group) or your more pop culture American fundamoralist's. Nabil also told me of a gang of muslim youth extremist's that work the street's at night in Casablanca, that specifically target gay's, beating the shit out of them, even killing some, they have these weird knives they carry from what he describesd to me, with a twisted sort of blade, designed for gutting, gun's are outlawed there too from what he tell's me, perhap's that's the reason. Just made me think of some of the muslim extremism against fellow muslim's. My brother in law was born and raised in Tehran also, he told me the same thing even in Iran, and this was like 30 year's back (threatened in college by fellow extremist's student's), so I reckon just about every country over there has these extreme issue's (oddly, my brother- in- laws oldest son, is the one who was a US Marine Sgt and done 3 tour's in Iraq, I was thinking that Iraqies must hate his type, I mean he's half Iranian and a US military on top of it!).
You know RC I write about it often and have one pending but Islam has to police itself, you know with these Islamists.
Libya is doing it right now and I love it. If we are to win this Islam has to do it themselves.
Man there is so much shit coming down the pike it's mind boggling.
I was talking to Jim last night and he just said his mind is blown and his bags are packed.
I sure as Hell agree with you on that Jim, as far as these folk's having to do it for themselves ... looking at history ... it is nation's like our's for instance who done thing's the hard way, without much help from outside, this as well make's you more self reliant, stronger, etc, etc ... you know the score, and you also know why I feel we we are involved too much in these nation's ... I reckon your son alwayz expect's the unexpected ... or at least the inevitable when your in them career's, eh?
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