Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Afghans stage anti-Pakistan protests, threaten to go to China and India for help instead of Pakistan

Afghanistan urges Pakistan to take steps for: The Afghan government needs to see Pakistan make "tangible progress" on pledges to use its influence to help end the Taliban insurgency, a foreign ministry spokesman said Sunday. The statement came a day after Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he was giving up on trying to talk to the Taliban directly and that the key to ending the war is mediation by Pakistan.

Afghan leader in key India talks:Mr Karzai met Indian PM Manmohan Singh, who said violence in Afghanistan was undermining security in South Asia. He also said that India would "stand by Afghanistan" when foreign troops withdraw from the country in 2014.Mr Karzai's visit follows a series of attacks which have damaged ties between Kabul and India's rival, Pakistan.

There are strategic reasons to remain friends with Pakistan of course for Pakistan but for the US too and not just because of the nukes. Knowing that and "like it or not admit it or not" some in the Pakistan Government and the ISI's intimate relationship with the Taliban I hate to say Karzai is right and for once I agree with him.

Afghans stage anti-Pakistan protests: Hundreds of Afghans have taken to the streets of Kabul to condemn the recent shelling of border towns by Pakistan's army and accusing its powerful spy agency of involvement in the killing of Burhanuddin Rabbani, the country's influential former president. Sunday's protest came amid heightened tensions between the neighbours, with Afghan officials blaming Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Taliban's senior leadership over Rabbani's assassination last month.

Of course now that the people are rallying against the Taliban for killing Rabbani who the people saw as their savior and loved him the Taliban is saying they did not do it but did they? Haqqanis deny killing Afghan peace envoy: Report, The operational leader of Taliban faction the Haqqani network denied killing the Afghan government's peace envoy Burhanuddin Rabbani, in an interview with the BBC released Monday. Sirajuddin Haqqani also denied US allegations that the Haqqanis, blamed for a string of high-profile attacks on Western targets in the Afghan capital, were currently linked to Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI.

I have to laugh! The Haqqani's are not stupid they know how to play the game. They know we have long accused Pakistan more pointedly the ISI of controlling the Haqqanis. They also know that of late we have come out and accused elements of the Government and ISI of initiating the action against the west and Afghanistan.

Sadly the ISI has been complicit with the Haqqani's, Mullah Omar and other anti Afghanistan and anti American extremists from the beginning. The CIA was complicit with the ISI. The killing of 7 CIA agents by a suicide bomber changed this for the CIA. However you are not going to get the ISI to "switch sides" They have had a relationship with the Haqqani's since they were helping them fight the Russians.

Anyway you look at it we are viewed as temporary and the violent convoluted backstabbing tribal relationships will always be a way of life in the border area especially. We can only be very concerned how this is going to turn out between NATO, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. It won't be translucent or good!

*When all is said and done I believe in the old adage "there is honor amongst thieves" I do believe Sirajuddin Haqqani when he said he is talking to the CIA and the Haqqani's had nothing to do with killing Rabbani. I absolutely believe Pakistani interests did it as has been proven out. The Haqqani's seem to be home based in Afghanistan now and have wisely severed their ties with Pakistan.

The Haqqani's seem true to Mullah Omar who want us out of Afghanistan and want their independent Afghanistan. Pakistan has proven they do not want a free and independent Afghanistan but want to control it. At this point I want to say our soldiers have done their job let them come home as scheduled if not sooner. Let Mullah Omar the Haqqani's and other Taliban interests fight for Afghanistan it is theirs not ours or Pakistan's. Good luck Hamid Karzai that's all I say!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Dave Dubya said...

None of this bodes well, regarding our military occupation. We're still in Iraq. Afghanistan will be a very long term occupation, I'm afraid.

an average patriot said...

Howdy Dave! Our war mongering stupidity stuns me. Now in the lie we are living is this so called act of war by Iran. They will have their war one way or the other. I am so sick of this shit!

Ranch Chimp said...

Mornin Jim ... actually I am fed up to the neck with these war's and cost's, and the worst part is the contracting to me, like I said before Jim, Im somewhat conservative as well when it come's to spending, put it this way Jim, if I was runnin shit we would still be swimming in surplus! Feeding and housing also our homeless vet's in the street's! As far as this recent Iran gig and show ... I really dont buy it yet ... it wouldnt suprise me if Iran was set up on this themselves!

an average patriot said...

Don't buy this Iran shit it is another part of the lie we have been living since 9/11.

I have to laugh I too am very Conservative but being a Democrat I am pigeon holed as a big spending big government liberal. Nothing could be further from the truth.