Thursday, June 16, 2011
Pakistan's shadowy secret service: Pakistan arrests five men for helping CIA spy on Bin Laden house, if they were on our side they would be thanking them
Pakistan arrests five men for helping CIA spy on Bin Laden house: Pakistan's military Wednesday rejected a New York Times report that the country's intelligence agency has arrested some of the Pakistani informants who fed information to the Central Intelligence Agency in the months leading up to the U.S. raid that led to the death of Osama bin Laden.
Pakistan rejects US report on army major arrest in Osama raid: The fate of the CIA informants arrested in Pakistan is unclear, but American officials said that the CIA director, Leon E. Panetta, raised the issue when he traveled to Islamabad last week to meet with Pakistani military and intelligence officers. Of course Pakistan said claims of their arrest were baseless I am so sick of this crap. If claims of their arrest are baseless then show them and let us interview them on our own. We know who they are!
Pakistan's shadowy secret service: Pakistan's directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, is once again facing accusations of double-standards over its role in the fight against al-Qaeda and the Taliban.
Embarrassed by the Osama bin Laden raid and by a series of insurgent attacks on high-security sites, top Pakistani military officials are increasingly concerned that their ranks are penetrated by Islamists who are aiding militants in a campaign against the state.
Those worries have grown especially acute since the killing of bin Laden less than a mile from a prestigious military academy. The infiltration by heavily armed insurgents this week of a naval base in the megacity of Karachi — an attack widely believed to have required inside help and don't forget the massive extensive tunnel in the middle of the main prison floor in Kabul. Definitely inside help there! Pakistani military worried about collaborators in its ranks, officials say
It is about time they acknowledge it. We have been threatening Pakistan and warning them from day one as we knew there was complicity within ISI if not the Government too.The ISI, interservice intelligence, is part of the military.
You know of the extensive even pre 9/11 connection between them all.
Once again for the uninitiated I want to rehash "our ally" Pakistan's financial backing and intelligence help for the Taliban well before 9/11. They are also solely responsible for setting up our Afghan allies to be killed. I have to wonder if it was them that made it possible for that suicide bomber to kill those 9 CIA agents?
Any way look at this as the evidence has been piling up from day one and we are still giving them $100's of millions. Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI, calls the shots for the Taliban and other insurgent groups in Afghanistan, training, funding and giving shelter to them, a Harvard academic claims in a new paper that Pakistan's military dismissed as "rubbish." That isn't rubbish it is old news. Please read the story at the link then think back!
The US and Pakistan are pissed that the truth leaked out but too bad. The documents, made available by Wiki Leaks, suggest that Pakistan allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders and other US allies. Pakistan Spy Service Aids Insurgents, Reports Assert We already knew that anyway.
Remember the 911 movie, press for truth full movie here That has got to be the very best movie exposing the 9/11 cover up. Bush, Rice, Cheney, everyone of them said over and over that there was no forewarning that terrorists were going to strike and that planes could be used as missiles to bring down buildings.
The movie documents factually that we heard in 1995, that planes may be used but never concerned ourselves about it. We received multiple warnings prior to 9/11 that terrorists were around, planes would be used, and the towers were coming down. Surprising to me was that prior to 9/11 one of the hijackers backed out and turned himself in, telling authorities what was going to happen. He was given 2 lie detector tests that he passed with ease. I don't recall who in the Administration said it. But they were told to let him go and send him back to London.
9/11 was allowed to happen for a reason! Once it did occur we attacked Afghanistan of course. As you remember, Bin laden and many of the leadership were trapped in Tora Bora. In the past I have said Bin Laden was allowed to escape so bush could use him to keep fervor up and Afghani's were credited with being responsible for his escape. * Remember this! We knew there were four ways out and only guarded three. We gave them a way out.
Not only that but I remember hearing about a 1,000 car caravan but it was never mentioned that we were bombing the area around it but allowed the 1,000 car caravan carrying the Bin Laden entourage to escape into Pakistan and at night, come on. Now this part really irks me and I for one never heard anything about it and still don't. As far as I am concerned Pakistan is no friend of America's and will partner with India and turn on us when the time comes. We also heard over and over how Bush would track down any Al Qaeda finances and try anyone involved. He made a big deal out of the fact that someone outed the fact that we were checking out electronic transfers etc. Something he himself announced.
Then I watched the movie and find out that the head of the Pakistani ISI transferred $100,000 to Muhammad Atta just prior to the 9/11 attacks. This gets worse. Primarily because not only do we have records of this financing as well as pictures but we ignored it and supposedly are in cahoots with them. What happened to anyone caught aiding, abetting, or financing terrorism being hunted down? To make it worse, the joke of a sideshow they called the 9/11 commission hearings was an obvious farce.
We knew Rice and others were lying and Bush and Cheney were allowed to hold hands and lie together (take that any way you want). I think I vaguely remember hearing this but like everything else it was dismissed as insignificant. Anyway, the guy who ran Bush's election campaign if I remember correctly, was the one running the commission hearings. He was the one who decided what was significant and what wasn't as well as what questions could be asked. What the hell is that. This entire thing was stacked against the truth and the facts getting out. It is our duty as Americans to hold these liars accountable. We owe it to the victims. We owe it to our children. We owe it to our history and we owe it to ourselves and this underhanded crap just continues! How? Why?
To reiterate, 9/11 was allowed to happen. As you may remember, Bush was looking for something to happen that would put the country and the world behind what he already had plans to do. 9/11 gave him that something.He had plans right from the beginning to establish a new societal, middle east, and world order. That is why it was important to him to whip up a media and public fury which of course, he has done.
He then used the excuse of 9/11 to attack Iraq and unsettle the middle east so he could further his idea of a new middle east and world order. In doing so he guaranteed the loss of Afghanistan as well as Iraq and the entire middle east Of course lying all the while and whipping up as much support and frenzy as he could in the media and minds he controlled.
Now Obama is in charge of this mess and he knows the entire debacle was built on lies and we are giving Pakistan a billion dollars a year and we have known from before day one that Pakistan's Intelligence service has been supporting and paying Al Qaeda and the Taliban from before day one. They made 9/11 possible and are now helping the Taliban kill us and undermine our efforts in Afghanistan. We must force Pakistan to clean house if possible but it will not happen. Are we ever caught between a rock and a hard place. What will or can Obama do about this?
We knew the ISI was paying Attah before he flew into the towers and much worse but what the hell can we do? We are between a rock and a hard place and those republican asshole heroes Bush and Cheney put us here. We may be in Afghanistan for that trillion dollars in mineral rich's but I doubt it. We defeated Al Qaeda as a force to attack us.
I believe our real goal now is to go after the indigenous Taliban who belong there and we will never dislodge so we can perpetuate our war economy and stay next door to Pakistan's nuke's so we can secure them if we think they are in danger. We have been in there clandestinely for years to do just that.Boy are we screwed!
* Now we will see what we do in the area now that Bin Laden is dead as he should have been at Tora Bora. Tora Bora, known locally as Spīn Ghar, is a cave complex situated in the White Mountains (Safed Koh) of eastern Afghanistan. The outposts in use in 2001 were originally built by extending and shoring up natural caves, with the assistance of the CIA in the early 1980s (Operation Cyclone) for use by mujahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Yep! Tora Bora built with CIA help