Tuesday, October 17, 2017

1400 years of Dissension will not be solved in the Middle East, Somalia or Asia. The world will be the stage for generations

I know our so called leaders are fond of saying we will fight the extremists wherever they are that means the world is the front in the so called war on terror. We are not winning this so called war on terror it has not even really begun. Our so called leaders and war mongering Republicans are fond of saying that we did nothing to deserve the attack on 9/11 but on the contrary we did everything to deserve it. This has been a long time coming. 1400 years of dissension has come to a head and it will not be quelled easily as you see.

The fall of the Russian Empire set in motion something that began with the founding of Islam in 610. Islam was established by Muhammad in order to give Muslims a formal religion and sense of equality and belonging with the Jews and Christians. It failed and Muslims have never been able to gain equal footing or be willing to accept their role in the worlds society.

The Christian Crusades to take back Jerusalem turned into a blood bath against Muslims. Our nation was born during the enlightenment and industrialization completed a gap between our societies which will never close. Next comes the Berlin Conference in the 19th century, allowing Europe to divvy up Africa which they then took what they wanted and then reset the boundaries creating another mess with the Muslim world.

This is not though, a fight between the West and Islam. Islam is also fighting itself! It is a war between Islam and the world at large, everyone. As some have no tolerance of anything but their version of perverted Religion and Democracy. The Muslim Islamists have no tolerance of any other version of Islam than their own. They want all their lands back which cannot happen. They want us off their lands so what does Bush do? He attacked Iraq invading their homeland with our military and attempts to set up his idea of a new middle east order.

There is an easy answer to this and that is too fight and continue to fight, there is no easy way out though. We have no other choice as this will not be quelled by diplomacy. We must see this through to the end. Years ago I said like it or not, this will turn into a war against Islam. We will be forced to isolate them in their own lands for our own safety. It is an unpopular thought but we will not have a choice. Once on their own they will turn on themselves as they already are because they cannot tolerate any version of Islam other than their own.

Iraqi's are killing each other as we know and it will engulf the entire middle east Bush knew this would happen and ignored all good advice and intelligence to the contrary, as he had to in order to stay the course and prosecute his idea of new order. Reagan is credited with ending the cold war but he set in motion many of the problems of today. Bush finished the job by belittling every country in the word and attacking Iraq unsettling the middle east. Obama is doing his damnedest to make things right but he is not getting cooperation and I do not think he will have the time.

Anyway by virtue of Bush's superiority complex and destabilization of the already unstable middle east which we also contributed to by injecting Israel into the mix and again resetting boundaries as we saw fit, again ignoring traditional boundaries and dislikes. Bush liked to say we must defeat the so called insurgents in Iraq or they will follow us home. Now we are hearing from Al Qaeda in Pakistan and elsewhere that they are coming soon.They will follow us home period.

I would like to see this resolved with Diplomacy but no way. We have messed over Islam all around the world now they want retribution all around the world. They want to turn the clock back but that is impossible. You can not turn time back. We have hit the stage in man and the planets life cycle called the mature stage where we must be taking care of them but we are not. A nation, a people, must either accept your position be happy with what you have today or you see the alternative. What a hell of a future is all I can say!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


Demeur said...

Problem with Iraq was that there was no plan after the bombs stopped falling and Sadam was removed hence creating a power vacuum. We've done the same thing in Afghanistan by installing a puppet leader. Things will never get better as long as we keep stiring the political pot hoping for some powerful secular leader to rise to the top. And as long as there is the great divide in wealth there and a lack of education then I don't see anything changing in the near future. We'd have to win Pakistan to make a difference and with their problems at present that's not going to happen.
The question we should be asking is how long can we afford to keep these wars going before we collapse? Remember this is still all borrowed money.

an average patriot said...

We knew we were creating a vacuum in the middle east and engulf the entire middle east and Bush ignored the warning.

We are doing the same thing in Afghanistan as we did in Vietnam and like everything else Bush touched this will dwarf anything in the past primarily because of Pakistan and Iran. We have to cut this off right now and we will not. I continue to say this has barely begun and that's a fact.

TomCat said...

Jim, the way I see it, diplomacy can work, if and only if it is coupled with ending the west's continuing policy to economically dominate their nations.

an average patriot said...

Tom I wish that was true! Only Islam can stop this and they will not. Peaceful Muslims would have to step up and police their own and they are not and will not. The enlightenment opened a divide that will never be closed as the so called Islamists our destruction and their dominance.

Mohammad went into the desert underground alone and came out with the Koran. His intention was to make Muslims the equal of Jews and Christians but you know the history or most of it.

Demeur said...

The problem there Jim is that the "Peaceful Muslims" are not the ones in power. Why should those in power stop it if they're getting richer at our expense?

an average patriot said...

I know Demeur, same thing here and around the world. Those that really care are not in power and do not matter.