World wide Civil war, the worlds future

Afghanistan more than duplicates Nam as it is Vietnam on steroids in every single respect.

We lied and created the fiasco in Nam as we have in Afghanistan. We created North and South Vietnam not the Vietnamese.

Once again this time in Afghanistan we are propping up another puppet regime. We could have gotten right out of Afghanistan as we succeeded on our originally declared mission long ago.

We seem to have nothing left in America but this corruptive war economy and are keeping the wars going for illicit gains.

I do not like what we see. We are determined to join Afghanistan's graveyard of Nations but we better get the hell out of there because I have said it for years and you can see it now but these wars are barely beginning.

I call it Bush's forever war but in reality it is Cheney, Rummy, and Rove who fostered it for those powers really behind the right.This breakdown is barely beginning and we have dirty hands.

There are no surprises here. Have you ever read "we do not have clean hands in Afghanistan"? "a clean break" ? Remember the divvying up of Africa in the Berlin conference ? everything that is happening right now in North Africa and the Middle East is our fault.

Those people are peeved at us too as we shored up and turned our heads on those destructive dictatorships as long as they did our bidding.

The chicken has come home to roost. 3 of my sons are career military and they know this is barely beginning.

I keep telling them to relax you are an it for the long haul. This is their future and I don't like it but they are reserved towards it.

Civil war keeps being mentioned in regard to Libya. I hate to say it but that seems to cover most countries in the Middle East and many in Africa including Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and every country ever involved with us. What a coincidence that Libya like North Korea were deemed worth working with when in 2008 Bush recovered full diplomatic relations with Gaddafi.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

America's Role in Helping Iran Develop its Nuclear Program: It was called Atoms for peace, ironic isn't it?

America's Role in Helping Iran Develop its Nuclear Program: Yes, the U.S. once aided Tehran's civilian nuclear program, a reminder that even peaceful nuclear cooperation can have unintended consequences. Iran's nuclear program poses a threat to many nations--particularly Israel and the United States. Yet, it is sometimes forgotten that Washington was an early supporter of Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

The United States provided peaceful nuclear assistance to Iran from 1957 to 1979, when the two states were allies. Washington exported the Tehran Research Reactor (TRR), enriched uranium to fuel it, and "hot cells," which can be used to produce plutonium--a critical ingredient for making nuclear weapons. All of this aid was provided for civilian uses, but it ended up indirectly augmenting Iran's nuclear weapons program. The Iranian experience exposes a problem known as the dual-use dilemma: because nuclear technology has both peaceful and military applications, nuclear energy aid provides a potential foundation for a bomb program.


Yes the program was called atoms for peace and amongst others we also helped Pakistan another country we are very concerned with today. What a coincidence or situation normal as our interference always creates more of our own problems?

Iran has an aging nuclear facility and the US built it and started Bushehr ironic isn't it?

Yep we did it again! We just can't stop screwing ourselves and the world.The Bushehr project dates backs to 1974, when Iran's American-backed government  began plans to build the reactor.

Atom's for peace was a program started by the US to build nuclear facilities for Pakistan and Iran. Rather ironic isn't it? The Tehran Research Reactor is an aging nuclear facility located in the heart of the Iranian capital. It was built by the United States as a nuclear research facility 40 years ago; it is now at the center of Iran's claims that it needs nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes only. The reactor makes radioactive materials for use in hospitals - for example in the treatment of cancer.

We gave them their start! We gave them their cover for their real goal of achieving nuclear weapons. A reminder: As you know, when asked by a journalist how he felt upon returning to Iran in 1979 after 15 years in exile. Khomeini’s curt, one-word reply was “nothing” Whoa! From day one of his return to Iran Khomeini expressed no love for Iran only a love of the atom bomb. The drive even then was to possess a nuclear weapon though that desire is still denied until Iran can get their hands on one.

I have tried to give Iran the benefit of the doubt when they say their nuclear desires are peaceful knowing they could use nuclear power as an energy source for their growing population. I have always asserted that perceived need could be cover for the real goal of developing a nuclear weapon.

The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.[1] The support, encouragement and participation of the United States and Western European governments in Iran's nuclear program continued until the 1979 Islamic revolution that toppled the Shah of Iran. We are so concerned about Pakistan and Iran today in regard to nuclear abilities and nuclear weapons and security. I was blown away to find out that we built the first nuclear Reactors in both Iran and Pakistan. Nuclear program of Iran - atoms for peace Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would have to assume this was after we overthrew the democratically elected President of Iran Mohammad Mosaddeq to install our ruthless puppet the Shah of Iran. We built and supplied Iran's first reactor because we thought we were in control. What the hell is wrong with us? That makes us personally responsible for the 1979 Revolution in Iran, the capture of our hostages, the disaster in the desert after a failed attempt to rescue them, the rise of the Revolutionary Guard, the protesters dilemma, the nuclear issue in Iran today, everything!

You know, I have long said that Iran’s civilian nuclear program is a cover for their nuclear weapons program. Arab leaders feel the same way. They fear a nuclear arms race and I can only conclude that knowing how far along Iran is and how they feel that they are hedging their bets and it is already under way clandestinely.

The Gulf Corporation Council “Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman. And the United Arab Emirates, who are all incidentally armed by us with advanced conventional weapons and technology and missile defense batteries all want the Middle East to be declared a nuclear safe zone. That as you know is DOA as neither Israel or the US will never agree to that. The centuries of acrimony and convoluted Relationships throughout the Middle East though I knew of it is mind boggling and worse than I thought so I invite you to read the report it is eye opening! Why Arab leaders worry about Iran's nuclear program

You know from numerous discussions here that Iran is involved in every Middle Eastern country not just Yemen, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia where they have corrupted elections for Shiite interests in Iraq, backing rebels in Yemen, and instigating attacks on Saudi oil fields. Bush freed Iran to instigate far and wide and are even training Taliban on their border. Any new actions will only serve to worsen their instigation and cause them to cause chaos everywhere they can and further Bush's total Middle East breakdown Period. As powerful in death as life; remember Khomeini's Ghost


James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Syria's Assad says intervention will burn region as the US prepares to do just that

Amid calls for western intervention and a no fly zone Syria's Assad says intervention will burn region as the US prepares to do just that
Syria's Assad says intervention will burn region: Syrian President Bashar Assad warned against Western intervention in his country's 7-month-old uprising, saying such action would trigger an "earthquake" that "would burn the whole region." Assad comments, published in an interview with Britain's Sunday Telegraph, were made against a backdrop of growing calls from anti-regime protesters for a no-fly zone over Syria and increasingly frequent clashes between government troops and army defectors, which left at least 30 troops dead late Saturday. "Syria is the hub now in this region. It is the fault line, and if you play with the ground you will cause an earthquake," Assad said. "Do you want to see another Afghanistan, or tens of Afghanistan's?" Yes they do! That is the reason Iraq was illegally attacked in the first place. Cheney was Behind New Mideast War Drive: Executive intelligence Report, Return of `Clean Break'

U.S. to boost Gulf presence after Iraq: The Obama administration plans to bolster the American military presence in the Persian Gulf after it withdraws the remaining troops from Iraq this year, according to officials and diplomats. That repositioning could include new combat forces in Kuwait able to respond to a collapse of security in Iraq or a military confrontation with Iran.: In addition to negotiations over maintaining a ground combat presence in Kuwait, the United States is considering sending more naval warships through international waters in the region. With an eye on the threat of a belligerent Iran, the administration is also seeking to expand military ties with the six nations in the Gulf Cooperation Council — Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Oman. While the United States has close bilateral military relationships with each, the administration and the military are trying to foster a new “security architecture” for the Persian Gulf that would integrate air and naval patrols and missile defense. Back in 2007 we thought this war would get going so we had 5 aircraft carriers in the Gulf and the Charles DeGaulle was guarding the mouth!

Also a while back: At the same time as it denies cooperating with preparations for a potential Israeli attack on Iran, Saudi Arabia prepares for strike of its own. Saudi Arabia’s air force has signed a deal to upgrade its fleet of 150 strike aircraft and procure advanced weaponry to respond to an Iranian military threat while simultaneously denying reports that the country is coordinating with Israel over a possible strike against Iran’s nuclear sites.

“The Saudis are very worried about the growing power of Iran,”I use to be concerned that the old confrontation would erupt in war between Iran and at the least US armed Saudi Arabia?

You can not blame them but I had no idea the dissension goes all the way back to the naming of the Gulf. Saudi’s know it as the Gulf of Arabia and I can remember that but Iran calls it the Persian Gulf as the rest of us seem to now.

Both Iran and Saudi Arabia have been using Lebanon as their battlefront up to now able to avoid direct confrontation. Iran has pumped millions of dollars in supplies and arms much to the consternation of her suffering people while Saudi Arabia has been supporting the Palestinian Authority. In Syria Iran has been helping the Shiite Bashar minority kill protesters while you can bet Saudi Arabia if not Al Qaeda has been helping the Sunni majority oppressed by Bashar.

So far there has been no direct confrontation. However I absolutely saw what I have been warning about since Bush diverted from Afghanistan to attack Iraq and get back in the middle east to create a new middle east (dis)order! I do not give a damn what anyone says. Bush Cheney and their Democratization program in an already historically unstable middle east set all of this and more in motion!

The hell on earth Bush created for Iraqi’s will engulf the entire Middle East before it encompasses the entire world if we can not contain it. Under Bush we broke a long standing tradition of not adding fuel to the Middle East fire by supplying weapons. We are now, including advanced weaponry and missile defense systems. The Middle East breakdown Bush started armed and funded continues under Obama. This up to now proxy war in the middle east is under way and Saudi Arabia is hoping Israel keeps Iran busy until the US is forced to come to their rescue as you know they will. Wait, watch, and listen, this is not good for the world and our future!

Israeli intelligence experts say that Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are at least as worried as themselves and the West about an Iranian nuclear arsenal.Israel has sent missile-class warships and at least one submarine capable of launching a nuclear warhead through the Suez Canal for deployment in the Red Sea within the past year, as both a warning to Iran and in anticipation of a possible strike.

When all is said and done we hear our navy is not over extended and I disagree but their assets will be used here but it would be tough on the country at a bad time. Food, gas and oil, will be rationed but as you know I have said before, knowing a nuclear Iran would to common sensed eyes mean a power balance in the middle east you have to come to the conclusion that is not wanted.

Israel will never accept a nuclear Iran and will attack. Whoever is President will come to their rescue! Once again war will occur to prevent war. That makes sense yeah! Again as I keep saying, at one time the threat of mutual destruction use to be a deterrence. Today it seems to be the goal.

Iran and Syria seem to be welcoming our response as they are also influencing the Shiite leadership in Iraq and eager to impress their version of a new Middle East order which Bush set in motion by attacking Iraq and freeing especially Iran to pursue.

Another Proxy war is going on and is setting up this one between the west and their Middle East allies and Syria and Iran.

George w Bush purposely did this in his infinite stupidity: I have to reiterate something I have said too many times since Bush chose to ignore all warnings of total civil war spreading throughout the entire Middle East so he could attack Iraq and straighten out the Middle East as God spoke to him and instructed him to. You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. As expected this democratization started by Bush has taken on a life of its own.

I still see a total civil war Sunni against Shiite erupting in the Middle East because Bush freed up Iran to instigate it on their end and they are. I still am concerned we will have a permanent presence in the Middle East but feel we will have to largely leave Iraq to her own demise. We will still be there but it looks like Yemen, and the Gulf of Aden will be the prime focus unless Iran gets something going between the US and Iran.

Saddam Hussein with his lies about possessing WMD kept Iran in check. Bush freed Iran up to pursue her version of new middle East order by interfering wherever she could while Bush was doing the same thing with his Middle East Democratization program. I think you can see how successful Bush and Cheney were with their chaos creating Middle East Democracy program but you are barely seeing the results they created in Iran.

The goal absolutely is to be the country who decides which direction the new Middle East (dis)order will take. Bush started it by attacking Iraq to get into the middle east to destabilize it and start the new middle east order the idiot said God told him to do now it will be up to Iran and Saudi Arabia at least up front fight it out whether this goes the Iranian Shiite way or the Saudi Arabian Sunni way and do not forget Israel!

You know I firmly believe and have said so a million times by now that since 9/11 everything was construed to allow Bush to gain the power he needed to prosecute his new order not just in the Middle East but on the entire world! He diverted from Afghanistan to get back into the Middle East with the goal of setting up a larger safety zone for Israel and going after Iran. Both will fail! It has long been my contention that coming to Israel's aid once they attack Iran will be our in to Iran!

The entire middle east and north Africa and our more than century of interference and exploitation can take the blame for that too. Planting our military in the middle of the mess Bush has created out of the Middle East because of his failed Democratization program is going to be a Custer's Last Stand on a grand scale if we are still there when this breaks open! Looking at the war cabinet Obama has amassed I am going to say at this point that this is going to happen even under a President Obama.

Actually Russia, China and Lebanon have blocked a move for the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's crackdown on dissent. Sanctioning slaughter is more like it! I believe I remember hearing Russia weigh in against what Syria and Iran are doing but China has yet to weigh in. Any way you look at it we are playing into Iran’s hand.

You have to be very concerned about what is happening in Syria especially. Iran is not going to allow Syria to fall to Democracy,Iran is in Syria helping Bashar Assad and they do not want us interfering. What we saw after the voter fraud in Iran was mild compared to what the IRG will do if this movement spreads to Iran. I really wish Bashar would step down but Iran is the elephant in the room any way you look at it. The total Middle East breakdown we have written about numerous times is well under way. We can only hope we keep it from erupting into WW3.



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Mid-East and North Africa unrest Live, Profile: Muammar Gaddafi

Mid-East and North Africa unrest Live, Profile: Muammar Gaddafi Amid Reports of Bodies on Tripoli Streets as Officials Quit in Protest. I listened to Gaddafi the ruthless killer yesterday. He said we gave drugs to the protesters and he is going to fight the dogs "us" to the death. He is the mad dog on drugs!








Mid-East and North Africa unrest Live

Gaddafi vowed to fight until the last drop of his blood had been spilt rather step down, describing anti-regime protesters as “rats”. Shaking his fist in rage he said the youths were being manipulated by the west and we are giving them drugs. He encouraged his followers to go house to house and eradicate them.Defiant Gaddafi vows to fight on

Qaddafi Defies Rebels Amid Reports of Bodies on Tripoli Streets

Libyan forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi are waging a bloody operation to keep him in power with residents reporting gunfire in parts of the capital Tripoli and other cities, while other citizens, including the country's former ambassador to India, are saying that warplanes were used to "bomb" protesters.Fresh violence rages in Libya as Protesters say security forces using warplanes and live fire 'massacred' them, as UN warns of possible 'war crimes'. I refuse to believe they are bombing their own people with fighter planes. Gadaffi has always scared me. He is ruthless, the civil war has already begun!

Profile: Muammar Gaddafi

Libyan Crackdown Continues, Officials Quit in Protest.I just heard that the interior minister went to the side of the people and said Gaddafi has two choices, be killed or commit suicide.

In Egypt, protesters urge Libyan envoy to rebel Many Libyan diplomats at the United Nations and in several countries have broken ranks with Gaddafi already, urging foreign countries to help stop what many called the slaughter and genocide of anti-government protesters.

Libya appeared to slip further from the grip of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, as opposition forces in the east armed themselves and moved to consolidate control of the region.

Libya: Ready for civil war? They better be because they are already in it! Gaddafi says he has not yet begun to use force. That is scary! If he does not call bombing and machine gunning your own people force I shudder to think of how far this mad man will go.

Medvedev sees `fires for decades' in Arab world True but another gross underestimate. When Bush attacked Iraq he already guaranteed a total middle east breakdown lasting the foreseen future. All this turmoil in Africa and the middle east is only adding to it!




James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Two Libyan Pilots told to bomb protesters flee to Malta

Gadhafi's Son Warns of Civil War and blood running in the streets in Libya as Violence against protesters backfires and army units and senior diplomats defect. No extra words needed, read the sobering links please!

Two Libyan pilots defect, say ordered to bomb protesters


Libya defectors: Pilots told to bomb protesters flee to Malta
 
Col Gaddafi's regime comes under mounting pressure amid unprecedented protests in the Libyan capital and defections by senior diplomats.

In pictures: Protests grip Libya

I hate to say it but that seems to cover most countries in the Middle East and many in Africa including Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and every country ever involved with us. What a coincidence that Libya like North Korea were deemed worth working with when in 2008 Bush recovered full diplomatic relations with Gadafi. Libya unrest: Violence against protesters backfires as Qaddafi's Son Warns of Civil War as Libyan Protests Widen

and clashes spread to Tripoli and army units are defecting

violence and unrest in Iran, Yemen, Morocco, Oman, Kuwait, Algeria and Djibouti over the weekend as people took to the streets demanding political and economic change. This is true but right now the focus seems to be on Libya where we can not get accurate independent reporting as reporters are not allowed in country.

Mid-East and North Africa unrest



James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com

Bush's Iran plan almost complete! Overwhelmed by Israel, battle Groups in Gulf, Iraq, middle east militarization by Bush!

As Bush continues to squeeze Iran in his effort to create his version of a new middle east order, with his recent proposal to supply Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, advanced equipment and weaponry from the arms sales under consideration he is tightening the noose around Iran. How will China and Russia react to all this? I can't see them just sitting there.
The proposed package of advanced weaponry for Saudi Arabia, which includes advanced satellite-guided bombs, upgrades to its fighters and new naval vessels, has made Israel and some of its supporters in Congress nervous as it should. Senior officials who described the package on Friday said they believed that the administration had resolved those concerns, in part by promising Israel $30.4 billion in military aid over the next decade, a significant increase over what Israel has received in the past 10 years.
As a result of the increase in military aid to Israel they now say they are not concerned about the $20 Billion in military hardware in the middle east because Bush has them convinced that these so called moderate States will aid Israel and us in containing Iran in their efforts to dominate the middle east instead of Bush and Israel. I don't know about that? This is not going to be good.
Worried about the impression that the United States was starting an arms race in the region, State and Defense Department officials stressed that the arms deal was being proposed largely in response to improvements in Iran's military capabilities and to counter the threat posed by its nuclear program, which the Bush administration contends is aimed at building nuclear weapons. who the heck cares why they are doing it they are still doing in the middle east what they are around the world. They are arming the world to fight for his new world order. We see it and are powerless to stop it.
To top off Bush's middle east arms race and increased militarization of the middle east in order to Bully Iran as you know, we have three Carrier battle groups in the Gulf and our military and equipment kept in Iraq's civil war to further intimidate Iran but it will all backfire and only worsen the explosion Bush started.
Counter to 50 years of middle east policy Bush is now arming the middle east so they can help him fight for "his" version of new middle east order as the war monger is doing around the world as highlighted by his missile defense shield whose primary goal seems to be to instigate Russia into war so Bush can further his new world order.
I have to agree with Gorbachev as you must and that is that Bush's imperialism is directly responsible for the growing global disarray. Former President Mikhail Gorbachev said yesterday that the fall of the Soviet Union, which his policies helped bring about, ushered in an era of US imperialism responsible for many of the world's gravest problems.
Bush had a great opportunity to steer the world in a peaceful direction instead he chose to try and remain the worlds lone super power and dominate the world for his desired new world order. It won't happen!
Bush's efforts to dominate the world has since made Gorbachev a supporter of President Vladimir Putin's assertive foreign policy and resistance to American power, his criticism of the United States yesterday was especially harsh and you can't blame him.
He said: "The Americans want so much to be the winners. The fact that they are sick with this illness, this winners' complex, is the main reason why everything in the world is so confused and so complicated," he said at a packed news conference. Instead of ushering in an era of cooperation with the West, the USSR's collapse put the United States into an aggressive, empire-building mood, he said. Ultimately, that has led the United States to commit a string of "major strategic mistakes," he said.
"The idea of a new empire, of sole leadership, was born," Gorbachev said. "Unilateral actions and wars followed," he added, saying that Washington "ignored the Security Council, international law and the will of their own people." Gorbachev, 76, shared Putin's opposition to the US war in Iraq. Russia has fallen out with Washington on a host of other issues as has the rest of the world thanks to Bush's new world order mess pushing relations to a frosty state that some commentators have likened to the Cold War.
Gorbachev, who won the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize for his role in ending the Cold War, echoed Putin's frequent endorsement of a so-called "multipolar world," without the perceived dominance of the United States. I thought Gorbachev deserved it and agree that the world today must be governed multi laterally.
"No one, no single center, can today command the world. No single group of countries . . . can do it," Gorbachev said. "Under the current US president, I don't think we can fundamentally change the situation as it is developing now. . . . It is dangerous. The world is experiencing a period of growing global disarray."
Gorbachev is 100% right about all of this including the disability to change the situation under Bush. Bush is militarizing the entire world and very quickly it will be too late to stop all he has set into motion. I think it is too late now but damn we have to keep trying!
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://www.anaveragepatriot.com/