Eric Massa's long 15 minutes of infamy as Republicans try to make it bring down Nancy Pelosi

Glen Beck apologizes for the Massa interview the worst in Fox history



I would first ask just how do you grope someone's sex organs unsexually? Tickle fighting? a new one on me, snorkeling? Use your imagination! Massa massages? The man is mentally deranged. No wonder Republicans were for Massa before they realized the trap and were against him. His name is perfect for this idiocy, massa-baited, massa of disaster, massa-bate,Massa-blaster, pick one! Massa: Yeah, I Groped Male Staff But Not Sexually

Eric Massa originally blamed Democrats for his Political demise because he was a no vote for health care reform. He has developed into a sad case and there is more to come as this went on at least through his navy years. Massa has major issues and sadly for him they are being undressed on a world stage.

Things are pretty bad for you when Glen Beck finds it necessary to apologize to his audience of fools for wasting their time. He wastes their time every day! Anyway please watch the video. We found out pretty quickly that Massa was not forced out for being against health care reform as he said and Republicans jumped all over smelling blood that turned out to be theirs.

He had been under investigation for a year and a half. He is a fifty year old mess. not just Beck but all Republicans were courting Massa but it did not last long. They were smart to jump from that sinking ship. Massa was groping and tickling male staffers and he was all over TV saying that is normal. That is normal? for anyone not just a fifty year old? That guy is sick and better get professional help quick.

This gets worse by the minute. Every venue he gets on he gets further of the wall and we hear more outrageous statements. He just keeps rambling on and changing his story on and on and on. He better just shut up. I have to laugh! Larry King asked the Massa of disaster if he was gay. He said ask my wife? Ask the 10,000 men I served with in the Navy. What? My first thought was that doesn't sound like a good idea and it was not.

Republicans are asking for an investigation not on Massa but Nancy Pelosi and what she knew and when in hopes of bringing him down. Boehner asked for an investigation yesterday but would not allow an investigation of Republican Senator Mark Foley in 2006 during the page boy scandal. I am sick of these childish games while the country is allowed to go down.

This started with Massa lying about being ostracized for being against health care then went to tickle fighting and improper touching of male staffers now Massa got his wish and we hear from navy shipmates. Now we hear of special Massa massages, more intense tickle fight, and snorkeling. I guess we can use our imagination! One ex Lieutenant awoke in his top bunk to find Massa on top of him groping him. I think the navy has a bigger problem than Democrats or Republicans.

Allegations mount against N.Y.'s Massa





James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

Panetta says CIA concealed information but didn't Lie! Isn't concealing information lying?

Isn't concealing information lying? Panetta says it is not CIA policy to mislead Congress. What a lie! Isn't concealing information misleading? How are we supposed to believe the CIA? As far as I am concerned they have a long history of lying and it only got worse during the Bush misadministration. George Tenet was probably the worst liar in CIA history so Bush could attack Iraq.

I do not like Pelosi but yesterday Pelosi said in regard to the letter sent to Panetta to recant his statement that the CIA is not in the habit of misleading Congress that obviously the House has concerns about the CIA! Panetta has admitted to the house intelligence committee behind closed doors of misleading Congress several times over the last 8 years. What a surprise and of course Republican members of the committee deny it?

7 Democrats including Democratic members of the intelligence committee are signatories of the letter accusing the CIA of repeatedly lying misleading and concealing information from Congress. Representative Jan Shakowski wrote the letter and asked CIA Director Leon Panetta to take back the statement that the CIA is not in the practice of misleading Congress.
CIA director admitted lying to Congress, say Democrats

House Intel Chair: CIA has misled us for years

I have to tell you, to me by definition they would have to lie to Congress to keep things secret. I hate to say it but you can't trust or rely on those people! The letter came a day ahead of the Debate on the intelligence Bill. Supposedly this whole thing according to Republicans is to cover for Pelosi who last may accused the CIA of misleading her. Once again Republicans are trying to make the truth appear as a lie for their gain. They are purposely confusing us again!

In fact, the CIA has lied to members of Congress a number of times, detailed in Tim Weiner's history of the CIA, Legacy of Ashes Here are just a few prominent instances:

In the 1950s, Director of Central Intelligence Allen Dulles, after being told by Senator Joseph McCarthy that the CIA was "neither sacrosanct nor immune from investigation," began waging a "down and dirty covert operation on McCarthy" which included attempting to bug his office and feeding his staff with disinformation "in order to discredit him."

Former CIA Director Richard Helms was convicted in 1977 of lying to Congress about the United States' role in overthrowing the democratically elected president of Chile, Salvador Allende. Allende was succeeded by brutal dictator Augusto Pinochet.

In 1982, Congress passed a law prohibiting the administration from ousting the leftist regime in Nicaragua. The CIA kept trying to overthrow the Sandinistas. CIA Director Bill Casey testified frequently before oversight committees Congress about the agency's covert action plans, during which he was often misleading. "Casey was guilty of Contempt of Congress from the day he was sworn in," Robert Gates, former head of the CIA and current Secretary of Defense, told Weiner. When the Iran Contra Scandal began to break, Casey lied to Congress, denying that they had traded arms for hostages with Iran.

On September 17, 2001, George Tenet told Congress that Iraq had provided al Qaeda with training in combat, bomb-making, and weapons of mass destruction. That information was based on a single source, the interrogation Ibn al-Shakh al Libi, who later recanted and whom we now know was tortured for that information. Tenet of course, hasn't recanted.

These are just some of the cases in which the CIA lied to Congress. In the context of a number of covert operations, the CIA has even lied to the President. This is part of the nature of what we, as a country ask them to do as an organization--the CIA is constantly being asked to engage in illegal behavior, punished when their analysis doesn't fit the preordained conclusions of whatever administration is in power, and then is exclusively blamed when the information comes out or the operations go sour. That's a regrettable state of affairs that says more about the hypocrisy of our leaders than it does about the committed men and women of the CIA.

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com

I have to agree with Boehner Pelosi is the problem but so isn't he. Investigation, investigation!

I am so sick of the blustering crap coming from both party's. I hate to agree with Boehner who is is as big a lying Repug extremist as you can get. That said I have to agree that Pelosi is the problem but so isn't he. The truth does not matter. That is a casualty of Politics today.
Pelosi lays out a third version of what she knew about torture

I keep hearing Pelosi say that the CIA misled her and she did not say anything in 2003 because she was trying to get Democratic Senators reelected. Cut the crap! What happened to killing two birds with one stone? Walking and chewing gum at the same time? She said the CIA did not tell her they were water boarding Abu Zayda they told her they might use it. Okay what the hell is the difference? House speaker says CIA misled her on 'torture'

She has the B's to call out the CIA, they damn well better take her on. I am sick of this crap! I just heard Cheney's request to have all the torture memo tapes disclosed was denied as he knew it would be and the scum will now get even worse than before. Anyway I am sick of the side show our Political system has become since the advent of Bush and Cheney. Pelosi is another enabler and obvious liar. She should have been gone a long time ago. She calls everyone a liar so she can continue her own lying career.

I am sick of this crap! Now she is calling the CIA liars. I am sure like her and everyone else the CIA parsed their words to give Bush the Decider the cover he needed to break laws. However is is not a good thing to call the CIA liars as they have the ability to destroy careers and often do. Hers should be over anyway. Her lying was too obvious yesterday as was Boehner's. This entire torture circus should be investigated but I do not see any truth coming out as per usual. Pelosi And Boehner Urge Investigation

Pelosi is a friggen Liar! I am sick of her changing her story. Some of us have been saying it for years now like everything to no avail that all these idiots, Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, all the dirty Democrats as well as the Republicans must go. I mean I have had enough if this crap. We would be much better off if we pressed the reset button and started from scratch. Enough is enough!

The Republicans love this! Pelosi calling the CIA liars and her being a liar has become the torture issue not the fact that Republicans are the ones that lied so they could torture. Now Leon Panetta CIA Director has come out and said she is wrong and we have to make a call. I have had enough of this. We will never get to the truth in this issue like all the rest. The issue of torture has now become Pelosi the liar not torture. She to my knowledge has changed her story 3 times. She is obviously lying. I learned as a little kid a lesson none of these Politicians learned. If you tell the truth the first time you don't worry about what you are going to say the next time.

Pelosi should be gone and of course she has Democratic defenders and Republican detractors who remember 2 different things. . I am so sick of these partisan idiots. She is lying like a rug, She has changed more than a kaleidoscope. Torture was used to get false information by Bush to justify attacking Iraq. That should be the only issue. This is an indictable offense. I am sick of the lying and cover ups. Again the real issue is purposely buried in confusion to enable a hidden agenda!

Who the hell is Boehner to cry foul? He is as big an obvious partisan liar as the rest of them. Boehner said all the torture lying happened before he had the need to know. Heeelllooo! CYOA, shouldn't someone have passed the word on? Just maybe? How do they all just continue to get away with the obvious cover ups and flat out lies? Then they get rewarded for it with reelection. What the hell is wrong with us? We have to put an end to this crap!

I wish we could have called Cheney's bluff but I hope to hell we are able to call both Boehner and Pelosi's. They are both right there should be a commission. However truth commissions are a LIE! Not just the 9/11 commission farce they are all a farce and a bad joke. Just another part of the lie we have been living since Bush. Again no truth will be uncovered or at least divulged to us.

Once again everyone is guilty but will be found to be innocent. The finding will declare a "misunderstanding" There was no misunderstanding just one more cover up. Once again as I have to say too often since the advent of Bush and the new standard of lie as long as you get your way became the new "truth" Just another part of the lie we are living today! Create a gray area to enable you to do what you want. That is all that matters today doing what you want. When the truth comes out it is dismissed as a misquote, a misunderstanding, a miscomprehension.

I am sick of this crap! Did I say that yet? These political childish idiots do not care about our or the worlds dire situation as like little kids they continue to play their lying childish games . This isn't kindergarten here. These are supposed to be our leaders not our misleader. The two party system once again proves to be our biggest enemy!

* In closing, Once again Republicans are playing CYOA to spread the blame and cover the real issue. Cheney in the end should be taken to task. Like everyone else under Bush the A@* hole Decider I believe the CIA was doing Bush's bidding. At this point we do not have a choice. Bring the whole friggen mess out. If that happened Cheney and Bush would be found guilty. That will never happen though. Even if Holder calls for an independent commission as he should one again the truth will never be known at least by us.The lie we started living under Bush will continue under Obama. Cynical? You bet!

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
www.anaveragepatriot.com