At the time Hizbul-Islam and Al-shabab's long simmering battle amongst themselves has erupted into open warfare. The interim Government was pretty happy about this as they think they will be busy killing each other and not them and the African Union troops but they should not be. They smell blood as they sense victory over the so called Government.
They were and were strong and are fighting to see who comes out on top and gets the palace. Al Shabab is more strict but they both want Islamist rule in Somalia. Al-shabab is also smaller but has Al Qaeda members in its ranks and is confident enough to send fighters over to Yemen to help Al Qaeda there. Islamist rivalry
Al-Shabab avow 'massive' Somali war Fighters attack Mogadishu hotel, killing at least 31 people, in war on "invaders". Al Shabab seems to be on top but not alone and they will unify long enough to sink the Government or take us on if and when need be. Can you Imagine?
Because of our success in Afghanistan and Pakistan's success many Al Qaeda are packing up and leaving the border war for greener pasture in Somalia and a new Jihad! I think that is great but we will then have to deal with them there. We have to and will follow them around the world until they cease and desist! Al Qaeda fighters move into Horn of Africa, officials say
Residents of Mogadishu, Somalia's capital city, have reported seeing foreign fighters among Al-Shabab, the radical Islamic militia that is battling to overthrow the weak transitional government. Increasing amounts of foreign fighters are being reported. Al Qaeda there is not new. They were training there in the early 90s and I am sure everyone remembers Black Hawk down
The western backed Government of former rebel President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed is under increasing attack. This is one more failed case of AlQaeda appeasement. Sheik tried to appease the militants by promising to install Sharia law. Sound familiar? With increasing western support Al Shabab and his growing force of militants are becoming a bigger threat and creating a growing concern.
Somali violence explodes as stabilization fails As you know, with another year it only promises to get much worse.
In closing! Of course we do not want to get involved in Somalia! Pakistan learned first hand the folly of trying the course of appeasement as has Afghanistan and all the rest of the world. With our success in squeezing them in Pakistan and Afghanistan they are moving to Somalia to a new Jihad. Destruction of the western installed Government and the installation of strict Sharia law. We know what that means! Somalia hopefully not in addition to current fronts but it will be the next front in the so called war on terror along with Yemen. Gulf of Aden the next front in the war on terror!
James Joiner
Gardner, Ma
http://anaverageamericanpatriot.blogspot.com
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I hate to be the one to clue you in Jim but the government barely controls Mogadishu. Saw a documentary by Richard Engle on this and he didn't sound to happy about being in the country. The rest of the country is run by war lords and pirates.
This sounds like a republicans wet dream. No laws or regulations to get in your way.
Demeur it's old news and as I pointed out I have written in the past about Mogadishu falling. My concern knowing this whole so called war on terror is barely beginning and remembering Black Hawk down is that this is going to be hell!
Somalia perhaps next, which is a huge concern in itself, but what is going through my mind is Egypt, Sudan and Iran.... Imagine that one. With all of the landlocked countries inside that possible Jihad zone! While America is strategically basing their military around the world.... As too are the Islamic fundamentalists, and of not fundamentalists, at least Arabs with huge potential to be....
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Oh, Demuer, you are right. Mogadishu isn't controlled by anyone but warlords. I was in neighbouring countries last year and a friend looking after me was one of the heads of the UN Somali Peacekeeping Mission, and they only had control of the airbase there, and one hospital or university... Def. not under control. He lost that many men from being shot down, that's why I wasn't allowed into the country. I tried!
Hi Atlantic star, welcome! We have big trouble and I tell my 3 career military sons to relax because they are in it for the long haul and who knows where they will be next.
War with Iran is coming but aside from that with Yemen and Somalia I figure the Gulf of Aden to be the next front. With a weak puppet Government in Somalia I just hope to hell we are not stupid enough to go back in there.
Atlantic Star! Our biggest problem believe it or not is that Bush the idiot with his illegal war frees Iran up to instigate for her version of new order not ours. Like him or not Saddam lying about wmd kept Iran in check. This is barely beginning and remember, religious wars are the longest and the dirtiest.
I've checked in on the CIA Factbook from time to time.
In the late 1990s I remember the CIA Factbook showing that Somalia has some oil reserves. Not huge, but enough to provide a nice profit center for one of the oil majors.
Recently I mentioned that on a forum and someone said I was wrong. So I looked it up, and the Factbook said Somalia has no oil reserves.
Then I look again today and I see:
Natural resources:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
uranium and largely unexploited reserves of iron ore, tin, gypsum, bauxite, copper, salt, natural gas, likely oil reserves.
Funny how that works. That nation's natural resources change every time I look.
Wease looking around I saw a variation but when all is said and done no one know.
What are the Natural resources of Somalia?
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Uranium, Natural gas, Possibly Oil and extensive fish and marine life off the Gulf of Aden, Indian Ocean and Arabian Sea
Those so called militants are everywhere. I will never forget Black Hawk Down. Somalia is worse than Yemen, Afghanistan, and Iraq combined. That is a bad place and if we have to go in it has to be with a total blanket take no prisoner offense. Al Shabab and the rest are the worst of the worst!
So I'm absorbing all your comments,what it sounds like to me is a hundred year War. Xe is probably having a jubilation Party.
Okay Tim, well you got it. I said just that so many times since day one it is sickening that no one of consequence gets it or listens. Anyway you can search the subject her but:
Last but not least as I always say, Experts don't have a damn clue! The world's anti-terrorism experts met for a conference in Stockholm and, as Roger Hardy, the BBC's Islamic Affairs Analyst, found, optimism was in short supply. What struck me most, in three days of debate, was the degree of pessimism about the task at hand. Yes, there has been a learning curve. It is now widely recognized that Muslim hearts and minds matter and that military successes mean little if the battle of ideas is being lost. But there is still a long way to go.
This came home to me when I spoke to an American military man who had helped produce the US Counter-Insurgency Manual. How long did he think the "long war" - as many now call it - would last? It is the kind of question journalists ask, and I did not expect that he would put a number on it. But he did. "Thirty years if we get it right," he said. "A hundred years if we get it wrong." That's not pessimism that's optimistic Realism
I have said it a million times these so called experts don't have a clue! War with Iran was only one of the reasons for attacking Iraq and this total world eruption will make the 100 years war look short. Depressions, wars, they don't get less significant over time they get more pronounced and much worse as time goes by. This will be no exception! Old regional wars were a prelude to WW1. WW1 was a preparation for WW2, and WW2 was a warning if we were stupid enough to allow it to happen, WW3 would be the longest and the worst!
*In closing I was going through stories on the instigation to war with Iran by Britain, Israel, the US, and by Iran's Revolutionary Guard as there has been so many provocations since 2003. I had 275 stories so I figured there was too much. You remember the IRG boarding a British boat, Border crossings by the IRG, the recent temporary capture of an Iraqi oil field, numerous instigation by the US and Iran. I do not know what is going to set this off but something will and it will not be good!
Okay Tim, well you got it. I said just that so many times since day one it is sickening that no one of consequence gets it or listens. Anyway you can search the subject her but:
Last but not least as I always say, Experts don't have a damn clue! The world's anti-terrorism experts met for a conference in Stockholm and, as Roger Hardy, the BBC's Islamic Affairs Analyst, found, optimism was in short supply. What struck me most, in three days of debate, was the degree of pessimism about the task at hand. Yes, there has been a learning curve. It is now widely recognized that Muslim hearts and minds matter and that military successes mean little if the battle of ideas is being lost. But there is still a long way to go.
This came home to me when I spoke to an American military man who had helped produce the US Counter-Insurgency Manual. How long did he think the "long war" - as many now call it - would last? It is the kind of question journalists ask, and I did not expect that he would put a number on it. But he did. "Thirty years if we get it right," he said. "A hundred years if we get it wrong." That's not pessimism that's optimistic Realism
I have said it a million times these so called experts don't have a clue! War with Iran was only one of the reasons for attacking Iraq and this total world eruption will make the 100 years war look short. Depressions, wars, they don't get less significant over time they get more pronounced and much worse as time goes by. This will be no exception! Old regional wars were a prelude to WW1. WW1 was a preparation for WW2, and WW2 was a warning if we were stupid enough to allow it to happen, WW3 would be the longest and the worst!
*In closing I was going through stories on the instigation to war with Iran by Britain, Israel, the US, and by Iran's Revolutionary Guard as there has been so many provocations since 2003. I had 275 stories so I figured there was too much. You remember the IRG boarding a British boat, Border crossings by the IRG, the recent temporary capture of an Iraqi oil field, numerous instigation by the US and Iran. I do not know what is going to set this off but something will and it will not be good!
Hey Tim, you may want to search Bush's forever war here too because that is what I started to call it and that is what it is period!
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