Sunday, April 08, 2018

Vatican Hypocrisy!

I always called myself one not knowing there was such a category but I just discovered I am a humanist! I do not need Religion or Church to make me treat people as I should and to do the righteous thing. I do not judge those that need Religion to give them direction. Worse I hate Bigots! Those that use Religion for their selfish gain as Bush does. Going to church does not make you a good person but often a bigot! I have a good friend I discuss this with often. He is very Religious and I always tell him that I appear to be but I do not go to church or need Religion to teach me how to act. Looking for backup for this report I discovered this link and that I am not unique I am a Humanist!
A humanist discussion of Religious ceremonies

I am amazed but at this point I shouldn't be. This morning when I was putting this together I had heard that Caroline Kennedy had been turned by the Vatican to be US Ambassador. As I was looking for backup I see a story that the Vatican not only had not turned down Caroline and everyone else suggested by Obama but supposedly had not even received the list. Then I see a story that an offer of a Vatican visit had been turned down by the Vatican and another story denying it. WTF? The Vatican is no different than any one else. I am a Christian! I am embarrassed to say even the Vatican appears to be hypocrites and liars!

I did not like the relationship I saw between the Vatican and Bush! It appeared as though the two were complicit in what Bush was doing in the US and also in the middle east! It is obvious to me The reports I was looking at underline tensions between the Vatican and the government of President Barack Obama because of its support for abortion rights and stem cell research, a reversal the policies of the George W. Bush administration.

It is opportunistic that yesterday I discussed the culture wars going on in the US with Bush gone Christianity was going down and States allowing Gay marriage were on the incline. Of course I was awake again last night and was perusing the news channels. I saw it reported that the refused to meet Obama because of his stance on abortion but I am not going to supply the link because there was also a story denying it. I am just sick of the lying and hypocrisy and I am a bit hurt and insulted that I see it coming from the Vatican of all places. I guess the Catholic Religion has not changed much in a thousand years!

As I pointed out I was also going to discuss Caroline being turned down to be US Ambassador to the Vatican because she believes in freedom of choice as I do but when I went to get the link there was a story denying it. I just can't frigging stand this crap! It is horrible seeing the Government lie, be hypocritical, and battle itself but this is too much seeing it highlighted so frequently in the Catholic church. Stupid me! I thought child molestation by priests would have embarrassed the church straight. I guess not!

* Speaking of hypocrisy and the Catholic church knowing there was too close a relationship between the Vatican and Bush it is only right that I was also going to discuss Bush who as Governor of Texas killed legally more Americans than anyone in history. I implore you to read the story at the link of who he killed and the fact that he was known as The Texacutioner It just absolutely amazed me that Bush is known as the biggest serial killer in history with the okaying of killing 154 prisoners as Governor of Texas. Cause of Death listed on their Death Certificates "Homicide" It absolutely stuns me that Bush can do this and still get an invite to speak at Notre Dame. Meanwhile the verdict is still out whether or not Obama will be allowed to speak there because of his stance on stem cell research and being pro choice.

To me it does not matter that we agree or not It is the message that matters. I happen to agree with Obama but agree or not he is not going to discuss those subjects. He has a message the people there should hear. That is all that matters. I am just sick of this hypocritical crap but it gets worse.

* Thinking about the fact that Bush killed all those people many veterans and retarded and was still the Popes friend and spoke at Notre Dame I found out why! The catechism use to teach that God had entrusted civil authorities with the power over life and death. Also the Vatican had the Death Penalty on their books until 1969! Religion and capital punishment

In closing yesterday I discussed that Bush is directly responsible for a drop in Christianity and a rise in Atheism. Today I see he has help in the Vatican! It is no wonder Evangelicalism is down and instead they are going to College. I have to say most Evangelicals I have known have been hypocrites Bigots and all screwed up. So I have to hope they are wrong when they say Evangelicals will have more public lives in the future. That can't be good!

With Christianity dying "with help from the Vatican I might add" Secularism is springing up! People will and are seeking other extremes! Pope Jon Paul drew people to the church today people have become disillusioned with the Church and Pope Benedict and his hard line unbending stances. Pope Benedict reaffirms why. He will only widen the division growing between the American people and the Christian Religion! I feel in many regard we are experiencing a return to to the inquisitions. What were the Inquisitions?

James Joiner
Gardner, Ma


One Fly said...

Excellant James and you covered a lot of ground here.

I do feel the need to call these people out - that is the crazys who constantly feel the need to tell or demonstrate in variety of ways publicly just how godly they are which means they have something up on everybody else which makes them better humans. That is bigotry.

Tomorrow is the biggy for many and there has to be some ass kicking done and I hope if anyone comes by my site they feel offended because that's the intent as I'm offended by their actions on a daily basis.

A human being can have every positive trait there is and religion need not be part of that equation. I despise these bastard who continually imply or say that I am less of a person because I don't believe. Everyone can kiss my ass.

One Fly said...

"Anybody coming by my site" meaning the hard core religious types.

an average patriot said...

Thanks one fly
There as you know is a lot to this subject. Myself I do not need Religion to show me how to act and treat people.
My wife though goes to church every Sunday and looks forward to tomorrow. To me the church fosters hypocrites and Bush and the Vatican are directly accountable for a rise in Atheism!
I will be by you know that!

an average patriot said...

Okay! I hope they do come by and get some food for thought as long as any dialogue is constructive!

Jolly Roger said...

The Pope is hypocrisy personified. Where's the surprise?

an average patriot said...

I am a Catholic and the surprise ie it took me so long to figure that out!