China asserts control over vast sea area, angering neighbors, US: Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines and the United States have criticized China for imposing new access rules for the vast South China Sea. The latest maritime dispute among the neighbors with overlapping claims to islands and resources in the busy East Asian waterways has ratcheted up tensions in the region, coming less than two months after China proclaimed an Air Defense Identification Zone over disputed islands in the East China Sea.
The revised rules stem from actions taken by authorities on the island of Hainan, the Chinese province closest to the sea where areas are also claimed by Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia. The South China Sea and coastal passages from Malaysia to Russia are of vital economic interest to all who ply the shipping lanes used to ferry more than $1.2 trillion in goods annually between the United States and its Far East trading partners.
South Korea expands air defence zone into China's Now what?
Biden Meets With Chinese President, No Public Mention of ADIZ: The visit to Beijing comes one day after a visit to U.S. ally Japan, where Biden said he was "deeply concerned" by China's Air Defence Identification Zone in the East China Sea.South China sea row escalates towards war?
South China sea row escalates after US B52 defy new Chinese defense Ban:
South Korea, Japan Send Planes Into China's New Defense Zone
China sends warplanes to newly declared air zone The vast zone, announced last week, covers territory claimed by China, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
Beijing warned it would take “defensive emergency measures” if aircraft failed to identify themselves properly in the airspace which is about two-thirds the size of Britain.Caroline Kennedy, the new American Ambassador to Japan and the daughter of the late President Kennedy, gave her reaction in her first public address.
“Unilateral actions like those taken by China with the announcement of an East China Sea-Air defence identification zone undermine security and constitute an attempt to change the status quo in the East China Sea. This only serves to increase tension in the region,” she said.
The new air zone, announced by China on Saturday, overlaps with an air zone set out by Japan and covers disputed islands that are controlled by Japan.
U.S. vows to defend Japan if China air zone sparks crisis
Monday, October 14, 2013
The
“2 plus 2” meetings make clear that despite the postponement of war
with Syria, Washington’s plans for military escalation are proceeding
apace. Obama’s “pivot” has encouraged Japan and other countries to adopt
a more aggressive stance towards China.
I have been following this every step of the way for 7 or 8 years. People use to tell me forget it, it will never happen,
But it will, it's the next war front. We may largely or in part leave the middle east to embroil itself because every country in Asia wants us to take on China and we may.
Russia is the Bull in the china shop. China and Russia have been holding joint war games for years, just recently with 395 thousand troops. Europe better watch out I fear. There is too much at stake here.
It is not land now that is the issue but the riches below the China seas that are needed to propel one through the 21st century.
Chinese military hardware hits Russia for joint anti-terror drills: “We’re glad that both countries have a high level of mutual trust. We’re not competitors, but we’re partners. Trust between the two countries became the unique feature of the Peace Mission,
* US hopes China and Japan can resolve island:Ties between the world's second- and third-biggest economies have been strained over the uninhabited islets, controlled by Japan but claimed by both countries. The isles are known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China. Aircraft and ships from the two countries have played cat-and-mouse in the vicinity of the islands, raising fears of conflict, perhaps sparked by an accident.
Speaking after a tour of the region, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Daniel Russel said the world did not want the spat to get out of hand. Global interest in economic stability, Russel told a news conference in Beijing, was "too strong for the world's second and third-largest economies to remain at odds.
*China warns America: Beijing has warned the United States not to support China’s neighbours’ claims to disputed islands in the East and South China Seas, the government said on Friday.
Sino-Japanese ties have soured dramatically since Tokyo nationalised some of the Senkaku islands, which Beijing claims and calls the Diaoyus, in the East China Sea a year ago. China also claims almost all of the South China Sea including waters close to its neighbours’ coasts, and tensions with the Philippines and Vietnam have intensified in recent years.
Japan
and China have sparred over the uninhabited islands in recent years.
Kerry's strong words of support Sunday for America's ally come just a
day after he promised new levels of U.S.-Chinese cooperation on a host
of problems, most notably North Korea's nuclear program.
Beijing warned it would take “defensive emergency measures” if aircraft failed to identify themselves properly in the airspace which is about two-thirds the size of Britain.Caroline Kennedy, the new American Ambassador to Japan and the daughter of the late President Kennedy, gave her reaction in her first public address.
“Unilateral actions like those taken by China with the announcement of an East China Sea-Air defence identification zone undermine security and constitute an attempt to change the status quo in the East China Sea. This only serves to increase tension in the region,” she said.
China 'monitored' US bombers in new air zone
The B-52 planes flew over disputed islands in the East China Sea on Tuesday without announcing themselves, defying new Chinese air defence rules. Japan and the US are strongly opposed to the air zone declared by China.They have accused China of unilaterally attempting to alter the status quo and escalate regional tensions.The new air zone, announced by China on Saturday, overlaps with an air zone set out by Japan and covers disputed islands that are controlled by Japan.
U.S. vows to defend Japan if China air zone sparks crisis
Monday, October 14, 2013
US-Japan talks escalate war preparations against China who is doing the same with Russia against us?
I have been following this every step of the way for 7 or 8 years. People use to tell me forget it, it will never happen,
But it will, it's the next war front. We may largely or in part leave the middle east to embroil itself because every country in Asia wants us to take on China and we may.
Russia is the Bull in the china shop. China and Russia have been holding joint war games for years, just recently with 395 thousand troops. Europe better watch out I fear. There is too much at stake here.
It is not land now that is the issue but the riches below the China seas that are needed to propel one through the 21st century.
Chinese military hardware hits Russia for joint anti-terror drills: “We’re glad that both countries have a high level of mutual trust. We’re not competitors, but we’re partners. Trust between the two countries became the unique feature of the Peace Mission,
US hopes China and Japan can resolve island dispute but no way as China says all China seas are hers
* US hopes China and Japan can resolve island:Ties between the world's second- and third-biggest economies have been strained over the uninhabited islets, controlled by Japan but claimed by both countries. The isles are known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China. Aircraft and ships from the two countries have played cat-and-mouse in the vicinity of the islands, raising fears of conflict, perhaps sparked by an accident.
Speaking after a tour of the region, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Daniel Russel said the world did not want the spat to get out of hand. Global interest in economic stability, Russel told a news conference in Beijing, was "too strong for the world's second and third-largest economies to remain at odds.
*China warns America: Beijing has warned the United States not to support China’s neighbours’ claims to disputed islands in the East and South China Seas, the government said on Friday.
Sino-Japanese ties have soured dramatically since Tokyo nationalised some of the Senkaku islands, which Beijing claims and calls the Diaoyus, in the East China Sea a year ago. China also claims almost all of the South China Sea including waters close to its neighbours’ coasts, and tensions with the Philippines and Vietnam have intensified in recent years.
US opposes coercive China action in island dispute:
The United States says it's committed to defending Japan and opposes
any coercive action by China to seize territory under Japanese control
in the East China Sea. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S.
isn't taking a position in the dispute over the islands, known as
Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.
Knowing
the coercion has been going on for years and ratcheting up of late is
Japan supposed to be heartened by that statement? Or China chastised?
Just a month ago:
China to open disputed South China Sea islands to tourism: The
plans to allow tourists to visit the Paracel Islands before the May Day
holiday is the latest stage in Beijing's development of the territory,
which has previously angered Vietnam and caused concern in Washington.
Inch by inch step by step slowly China's plan in the China sea's turns. Isn't this from inception coercion?
Vietnam and China have a longstanding territorial row over the Paracel Islands.Hanoi
last month accused a Chinese vessel of firing on one of its fishing
boats which had sailed in disputed waters in the area. The plan to allow
cruise tours follows rapid development of infrastructure in a new city —
Sansha — along with the establishment of an army garrison on one of the
Paracels last year.
Inch by inch step by step slowly China's plan in the China sea's turns. Isn't this from inception coercion?
Beijing tells US to 'shut up' over South China Sea tensions
Protests in Vietnam as anger over China's 'bullying' grows: Hands off you Bastard neighbor
Analysis: China unveils oil offensive in South China Sea squabble, outside intervention not welcome
Analysis: China unveils oil offensive in South China Sea squabble: Beijing claims almost all the South China Sea, a body of water believed to hold rich reserves of oil and gas and which stretches from China to Indonesia and from Vietnam to the Philippines. Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia claim parts of it. Any conflict in the sea, one of the world's busiest trade routes, would have global repercussions given the $5 trillion in ship-borne trade carried on its waters each year. "The Chinese government's stance is clearer than ever ... They want to take on and develop this region," said an executive at a global oil major, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.
The Philippines put two disputed blocks on offer on Tuesday but only received three separate bids for exploration rights, an indication that there was little appetite to go up against China in the South China Sea. "China's view is that the little countries, like Vietnam and the Philippines, are increasingly stealing its resources and it must demonstrate it is serious about upholding its claims," said Ian Storey, a senior fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore.
*Ministry of Defense: outside intervention not welcome: A military spokesman on Tuesday warned foreign countries to avoid interfering with territorial disputes between China and its neighbors regarding the South China Sea. On the eve of the 85th founding anniversary of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the Chinese government held an unprecedented press conference by inviting five senior officers with the PLA's four headquarters to meet the press. "We oppose any country outside the region intervening in these disputes," Defense Ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said on the sidelines of the conference.
"Any intervention by countries outside the region will complicate the problem and even deteriorate the situation," Geng said, calling for bilateral dialogue and negotiations to solve disputes in both the South China Sea and the East China Sea. The spokesman said disputes in the South China Sea mainly revolve around sovereignty and sea delimitation. "China will continue to seek appropriate solutions through bilateral negotiations and consultations with parties directly involved in the disputes," Geng said. Tensions have risen in the South China Sea, where China, Vietnam, the Philippines and other several countries in the region have made overlapping territorial claims over multiple islands.
Now we know why China would not sign the SouthEast China sea accord! They planned on breaking the accord and dramatically ratcheting up tensions by setting up a Government over the disputed Islands and seas so they would have an excuse to intervene militarily.
Protests in Vietnam as anger over China's 'bullying' grows: Hands off you Bastard neighbor
Analysis: China unveils oil offensive in South China Sea squabble, outside intervention not welcome
Analysis: China unveils oil offensive in South China Sea squabble: Beijing claims almost all the South China Sea, a body of water believed to hold rich reserves of oil and gas and which stretches from China to Indonesia and from Vietnam to the Philippines. Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia claim parts of it. Any conflict in the sea, one of the world's busiest trade routes, would have global repercussions given the $5 trillion in ship-borne trade carried on its waters each year. "The Chinese government's stance is clearer than ever ... They want to take on and develop this region," said an executive at a global oil major, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.
The Philippines put two disputed blocks on offer on Tuesday but only received three separate bids for exploration rights, an indication that there was little appetite to go up against China in the South China Sea. "China's view is that the little countries, like Vietnam and the Philippines, are increasingly stealing its resources and it must demonstrate it is serious about upholding its claims," said Ian Storey, a senior fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore.
*Ministry of Defense: outside intervention not welcome: A military spokesman on Tuesday warned foreign countries to avoid interfering with territorial disputes between China and its neighbors regarding the South China Sea. On the eve of the 85th founding anniversary of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the Chinese government held an unprecedented press conference by inviting five senior officers with the PLA's four headquarters to meet the press. "We oppose any country outside the region intervening in these disputes," Defense Ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said on the sidelines of the conference.
"Any intervention by countries outside the region will complicate the problem and even deteriorate the situation," Geng said, calling for bilateral dialogue and negotiations to solve disputes in both the South China Sea and the East China Sea. The spokesman said disputes in the South China Sea mainly revolve around sovereignty and sea delimitation. "China will continue to seek appropriate solutions through bilateral negotiations and consultations with parties directly involved in the disputes," Geng said. Tensions have risen in the South China Sea, where China, Vietnam, the Philippines and other several countries in the region have made overlapping territorial claims over multiple islands.
Now we know why China would not sign the SouthEast China sea accord! They planned on breaking the accord and dramatically ratcheting up tensions by setting up a Government over the disputed Islands and seas so they would have an excuse to intervene militarily.
*China
Approves City Council, Military Base in Disputed Islands: China says it
has formed a municipal council for a newly established city in a
disputed part of the South China Sea, and has authorized the deployment
of a military base in the area. In a report published Sunday, China's
official Xinhua news agency says 1,100 residents of several islands
known in Chinese as Xisha, Zhongsha and Nansha have elected 45 deputies
to a municipal people's congress. The islands are part of the new city
called Sansha, and the council will be based on an island that China
refers to as Yongxing, known in English as Woody Island.
Xinhua also says China's Central Military Commission has approved the formation of a Sansha garrison command responsible for “national defense” and “military operations.” The Chinese government declared the establishment of Sansha last month, saying its role is to administer the disputed Paracel and Spratly archipelagos and surrounding South China Sea waters, which are believed to hold oil and natural gas deposits. The islands are claimed in whole or in part by Brunei, China, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.
*China dubs tiny island new city in sea claim bid: China's newest city is a tiny and remote island in the South China Sea, barely large enough to host a single airstrip. There is a post office, bank, supermarket and a hospital, but little else. Fresh water comes by freighter on a 13-hour journey from China's southernmost province.Beijing has created the city administration to oversee not only the rugged outpost but hundreds of thousands of square kilometers (miles) of water, aiming to strengthen its control over disputed - and potentially oil-rich - islands.A spokesman for the Philippines Foreign Ministry said Manila did not recognize the city or its jurisdiction. Vietnam said China's actions violated international law.
The city administration is on tiny Yongxing island, 350 kilometers (220 miles) southeast from China's tropical Hainan Island. The Cabinet approved Sansha last month to "consolidate administration" over the Paracel and Spratly island chains and the Macclesfield Bank, a large, completely submerged atoll that boasts rich fishing grounds that is also claimed by Taiwan and the Philippines. Vietnam and China both claim the Paracels, of which Yongxing, little more than half the size of Manhattan's Central Park, is part. The two countries along with the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also claim all or parts of the Spratlys.
This just raises the threat of conflict in the South China Sea. China's way of resolving the multi nation South China Sea issue is not just to lay claim to the whole of China Sea's but today token claim to them as being habitated by China therefore allowing China to militarily fight for them.
Highlights: Asean Summit Breaks Down Over South China Sea Disputes, Philippines says China warship is in its territory, a military aircraft spotted six other Chinese ships near the stricken vessel on Saturday. Japan's plan to buy the disputed Tiaoyutai island group provoked a Chinese live ammunition exercise. China will not sign the South China Sea code of conduct. China, Japan Face Off Near Disputed Islands. China, US seek to calm South China Sea tensions. Plus a recap of what led us to this point if need. If something interests you in this very long and convoluted issue just click on the link and read further!
Why won't China sign the South China Sea code of conduct? (+video) The agreement, raised at the Association of South East Asian Nations in Cambodia, would be the 10th covering essentially the same territorial dispute since the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. The idea is that it would spell out what ships should do to avoid a clash but it wouldn't actually spell out how to resolve competing claims, according to regional news media.
Now we know why, This is just one more confrontation you can only see ending in war rather than Diplomacy and sharing the wealth!
The long run up to the China sea's conflict and the US and allies verse Russia and China competing naval muscle flexing I mean exercises
Xinhua also says China's Central Military Commission has approved the formation of a Sansha garrison command responsible for “national defense” and “military operations.” The Chinese government declared the establishment of Sansha last month, saying its role is to administer the disputed Paracel and Spratly archipelagos and surrounding South China Sea waters, which are believed to hold oil and natural gas deposits. The islands are claimed in whole or in part by Brunei, China, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.
*China dubs tiny island new city in sea claim bid: China's newest city is a tiny and remote island in the South China Sea, barely large enough to host a single airstrip. There is a post office, bank, supermarket and a hospital, but little else. Fresh water comes by freighter on a 13-hour journey from China's southernmost province.Beijing has created the city administration to oversee not only the rugged outpost but hundreds of thousands of square kilometers (miles) of water, aiming to strengthen its control over disputed - and potentially oil-rich - islands.A spokesman for the Philippines Foreign Ministry said Manila did not recognize the city or its jurisdiction. Vietnam said China's actions violated international law.
The city administration is on tiny Yongxing island, 350 kilometers (220 miles) southeast from China's tropical Hainan Island. The Cabinet approved Sansha last month to "consolidate administration" over the Paracel and Spratly island chains and the Macclesfield Bank, a large, completely submerged atoll that boasts rich fishing grounds that is also claimed by Taiwan and the Philippines. Vietnam and China both claim the Paracels, of which Yongxing, little more than half the size of Manhattan's Central Park, is part. The two countries along with the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also claim all or parts of the Spratlys.
This just raises the threat of conflict in the South China Sea. China's way of resolving the multi nation South China Sea issue is not just to lay claim to the whole of China Sea's but today token claim to them as being habitated by China therefore allowing China to militarily fight for them.
Highlights: Asean Summit Breaks Down Over South China Sea Disputes, Philippines says China warship is in its territory, a military aircraft spotted six other Chinese ships near the stricken vessel on Saturday. Japan's plan to buy the disputed Tiaoyutai island group provoked a Chinese live ammunition exercise. China will not sign the South China Sea code of conduct. China, Japan Face Off Near Disputed Islands. China, US seek to calm South China Sea tensions. Plus a recap of what led us to this point if need. If something interests you in this very long and convoluted issue just click on the link and read further!
Why won't China sign the South China Sea code of conduct? (+video) The agreement, raised at the Association of South East Asian Nations in Cambodia, would be the 10th covering essentially the same territorial dispute since the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. The idea is that it would spell out what ships should do to avoid a clash but it wouldn't actually spell out how to resolve competing claims, according to regional news media.
Now we know why, This is just one more confrontation you can only see ending in war rather than Diplomacy and sharing the wealth!
The long run up to the China sea's conflict and the US and allies verse Russia and China competing naval muscle flexing I mean exercises
Being
in a superior position puts one in a unique position of power and that
power must be handled gracefully, with humility, responsibly, and not
abused. That is something I taught all my sons and America under Bush
did a lousy job of handling. I am a little worried that China too is
getting a little too heavy handed and abusive with her new position of
power and beginning to take what she wants instead of being content with
what she has which is what I constantly lecture has to be the case if
we are to have a future. The time when man and the planet could handle
war and colonialism is over, period or else!
We are Taiwan's, Vietnam's, Australia's, and Japan's protectors. As China flex's their military muscles in the area we are not supposed to worry. Just what are we supposed to think they are going to do with their advanced weaponry, missiles, stealth aircraft, aircraft carriers and the like. Their threats are going to become more ominous until they cannot be ignored and it is too late. We have been here before. The world was not supposed to worry as Hitler built his arsenal and we know how that turned out.
Haven't we all been coerced by China and isn't it working up to now? China will go to war over this but will the US and the Asian allies we swore to protect? Is Russia going to join China in what would in reality be WW3 in an attempt to defeat us in Asia?
We are Taiwan's, Vietnam's, Australia's, and Japan's protectors. As China flex's their military muscles in the area we are not supposed to worry. Just what are we supposed to think they are going to do with their advanced weaponry, missiles, stealth aircraft, aircraft carriers and the like. Their threats are going to become more ominous until they cannot be ignored and it is too late. We have been here before. The world was not supposed to worry as Hitler built his arsenal and we know how that turned out.
Haven't we all been coerced by China and isn't it working up to now? China will go to war over this but will the US and the Asian allies we swore to protect? Is Russia going to join China in what would in reality be WW3 in an attempt to defeat us in Asia?
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Let's face facts. We aren't about to go to war with China now or in the near future. Why you might ask? Because the world is now so interconnected it would be impossible. For one China makes most of the components of our military hardware. It also holds a nice chunk of our debt although not all of it as some would think. We could default but to do so would throw off the world economy, remember ours is still the reserve currency.
As I see it the two things that will be fought over in the future will be oil and clean water. You will note that oil exploration is getting harder and harder. and things like fracking are making clean water more scarce.
The biggest gorilla in the room that nobody's talking about is the mess in Fukushima. That will be a game changer and no battle ship or army is going to solve that one.
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