tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post8627451212125608336..comments2024-01-19T07:30:41.591-08:00Comments on An Average American Patriot: Because of McCain we are having 100 years war debate involving Iraq, Bush has ensured a 100 years war of the world's at the very least!jmsjoinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-2083021633735236432008-04-02T12:37:00.000-07:002008-04-02T12:37:00.000-07:00Hell tom I used too but no longer respect him. U...Hell tom<BR/> I used too but no longer respect him. Until I read the link Shifter provided I never knew he broke and I wouldn't be surprised either.<BR/> That said he should be confronted on it and what he has allowed North Vietnam to get away with and why. He plays holier than thou and isn't. I hate a friggen liar.<BR/> Did you read the link Polishifter provided or did you know that? If you tried to get the truth known you would be called all kinds of a low life and he would probably come out smelling like a rose!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-2291996042657003182008-04-02T12:00:00.000-07:002008-04-02T12:00:00.000-07:00From what I understand, he broke under torture. I...From what I understand, he broke under torture. I'm not blaming him. Lots of guys did, and I can't say I wouldn't under the same conditions. But what worries me is the guilt he probably feels about it, and how that guilt, combined with the experience itself, has messed him up. This is probably what lies behind his temper. While I respect his service, he lacks the psychological stability to be responsible for armies, let alone nukes.TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-2671856181638358262008-04-02T07:49:00.000-07:002008-04-02T07:49:00.000-07:00whoa two crows Haven't seen you here in a while....whoa two crows<BR/> Haven't seen you here in a while. Glad to hear about your new site! You just hit a nerve as that is the core of me, life, the planet, and the universe! You will see me there and I hope others look in to see what you have to say on the subject. I will check out your link now before I get things going. Always a pleasure, take care!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-85019057741161515902008-04-02T07:43:00.000-07:002008-04-02T07:43:00.000-07:00Minnesotablue I agree 100% I am afraid though as...Minnesotablue<BR/> I agree 100% I am afraid though as with th chief idiot that those who speak the truth will again be labeled unpatriotic and conspiracy theorists as the real conspiracy of destroying our America and world order we wanted to pass to our kids and Grandchildren is prosecuted.<BR/> Did you know those things or like me did you read polishifters link? Stupid me until Bush I believed people when they spoke though it has never worked in my favor. I have learned to believe but verify!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-8127017472698860992008-04-02T07:37:00.000-07:002008-04-02T07:37:00.000-07:00g'morning, AAP--OT--I just started the new blog I'...g'morning, AAP--<BR/>OT--<BR/>I just started the new blog I've been threatening. :)<BR/><BR/>fwiw -- the current plan, so far, is to focus on the divine, the beauty of the universe and related matters.<BR/><BR/>I hope you [and your readers] will visit and join in the discussion there:<BR/>http://the-turtles-back.blogspot.com/two crowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14289442473441279230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-9401431840487197812008-04-02T07:01:00.000-07:002008-04-02T07:01:00.000-07:00I sincerely hope that his true POW status comes to...I sincerely hope that his true POW status comes to light during this election. Also his ties to the Keating scandal, his courting the far right christain conservatives, his nasty divorce, etc. Enough of him cloaking himself as a staight talker, lets get the truth out there!Minnesotabluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670914433184652900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-12570006747076134112008-04-02T05:48:00.000-07:002008-04-02T05:48:00.000-07:00Thanks Polishifter I have to say until recently ...Thanks Polishifter<BR/> I have to say until recently and McCain showed his true selfish, lying, war mongering ways I was living a fabricated lie too.<BR/> I read that whole thing and everything now makes sense but of course it will be lied about and those who speak the truth will once again be branded unpatriotic and conspiracy theorist successfully I'm afraid and this warmongering underhanded agenda will simply continue.<BR/> I did not notice it but has McCain ever taken up the challenge though the right will use the truth against us to continue this destructive lie? Will he ever? I will spread this at every opportunity!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-6110077800203470762008-04-01T18:39:00.000-07:002008-04-01T18:39:00.000-07:00Hi Jim,check out http://www.vietnamveteransagainst...Hi Jim,<BR/><BR/>check out <BR/><BR/>http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/<BR/><BR/>There's a lot about John McCain we all don't know.<BR/><BR/>But I come back to a central point and that is if he were a true Patriot he would have opposed Iraq, opposed Bush/Cheney, and opposed torture. He didn't. He put his political career ahead of what is best for America. That speaks volumes.<BR/><BR/>He used to say Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell were agents of intolerance. Then the Republican powers-at-be whipsered in his ear that he would never be able to win without the evangelical suppport so he subesquently kissed up to them.<BR/><BR/>Again, he put his own interest ahead of truth, justice, and the American Way.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the only bigger fraud in politics these days is George W Bush.<BR/><BR/>Every step of the way McCain has done not what is best for America but what is best for himself.<BR/><BR/>The pattern is clear. It remains to be seen if the American People will identify it in time.PoliShifterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16524480334048786423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-39209096269814559542008-04-01T14:46:00.000-07:002008-04-01T14:46:00.000-07:00Karen I am afraid that would be a bit optimistic!...Karen<BR/> I am afraid that would be a bit optimistic! What he doesn't hide will take many life times if ever because of what he has set in motion for future President's to deal with around the world. It will not be pretty!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-27058514871243446102008-04-01T13:56:00.000-07:002008-04-01T13:56:00.000-07:00What will take 100 years is cleaning up bush's mes...What will take 100 years is cleaning up bush's mess!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-23741800749870482392008-04-01T13:08:00.000-07:002008-04-01T13:08:00.000-07:00polishifter I used to respect McCain but can not...polishifter<BR/> I used to respect McCain but can not any longer. I must admit I never even thought of this.<BR/> His whole life has been about self-serving. He collaborated with the North Vietnamese to ease his treatment. He opposed the declassifying of documents related to Vietnam MIA/POW's that families sought.<BR/> I didn't know that but now I see why. He is not a Patriot he is a Reich wing war monger out for himself!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-82148493828440243752008-04-01T12:56:00.000-07:002008-04-01T12:56:00.000-07:00McCain seeks personal glory via war.His whole life...McCain seeks personal glory via war.<BR/><BR/>His whole life has been about self-serving. He collaborated with the North Vietmanese to ease his treatment. He cheated on his wife and then married his mistress who is a wealthy heiress so he could access the funds necessary to gain traction in politics.<BR/><BR/>He involved himself with Charles Keating in order to gain political contributions.<BR/><BR/>He opposed the declassifying of documents related to Vietnam MIA/POW's that families sought.<BR/><BR/>If he were a true patriot he would have stood up to Bush/Cheney, opposed the invasion of Iraq and Afghansitan, and opposed torture.<BR/><BR/>Instead all he cared about was his political career so he bowed to Bush/Cheney just to get his chance to run for the Presidency.<BR/><BR/>That's not patriotic, that's being a sell-out putting one's own career before country.PoliShifterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16524480334048786423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-75896660749044861852008-04-01T11:36:00.000-07:002008-04-01T11:36:00.000-07:00tc It is to hard for me to believe. I find it un...tc<BR/> It is to hard for me to believe. I find it unbelievable that can even think of having a Germeny or Korea type force in the middle east. <BR/> You might as well set up camp in Hell. That's what it is. This is the friggen middle east. They wanted us off their lands so Bush attacks them and now wants to stay there. WTF!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-10905589486869050912008-04-01T11:13:00.000-07:002008-04-01T11:13:00.000-07:00McConJob needs to consider this. Lets assume (and...McConJob needs to consider this. <BR/><BR/>Lets assume (and I admit it's a big stretch) that Bush and his Reich do not attack Iran. Now lets assume the completely ridiculous that Iraq becomes so pacified that the occupation is akin to that of S. Korea. It won't happen, but that is McConJob's assumption, so just for the sake of argument, let's give it to him.<BR/><BR/>Other than to grab the oil, the the Reich's purpose in Iraq is to establish military bases from which to dominate the region. The region does not want US domination, and as long as the US attempts to do so, there will be more war.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, McConJob's assertion that 100 years in Iraq is OK, accepts a guarantee of 100 years of war.TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.com