tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post8516007173886587775..comments2024-01-19T07:30:41.591-08:00Comments on An Average American Patriot: Iran says Middle East peace talks futile: I agree because neither side want peace only war to win their way or so they thinkjmsjoinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-48918746354687854072010-08-31T16:32:42.786-07:002010-08-31T16:32:42.786-07:00I saw the comments and was wondering whoa where...I saw the comments and was wondering whoa where'd those come from. Until now, that is the problem. This applies not only to the US but the entire world. We do not matter! I told you Jerome started our nuclear non proliferatio0n movement I think in 1946.<br /><br /> He was pretty pleased to see the reduction agreement between Medvedev and Obama but the realist in me says what is it worth. One is too many and like it or not they are here plus plants waste , all of it potential weapons and death forever as it has an indeterminable life span.<br /><br /> We the people, the righteous, the peace lovers of the world want peace and want to be heard but I learned we do not matter we are merely pawns to be used and sacrificed for the ruling party to get their way.<br /><br /> If we are to have a future period the so called big 3 must come together and cooperate. If not there will be no future. There can be no more Bush's. We had a golden opportunity to unite after the cold war but Bush and Cheney chose to divide and conquer instead.<br /><br /> I still have faith! I believe war in the middle east is a given regardless of what we want. It is up to the big 3 to keep it from being nuclear and from becoming ww3.<br /><br /> We know the future is in our hands, it is up to us do we want a future or do we want Armageddon. Sadly it is up to the Governments because when all is said and done we do not matter and are merely an inconvenience to be placated.jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-14338814146794099092010-08-31T16:29:36.390-07:002010-08-31T16:29:36.390-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-41250740359460083732010-08-31T15:48:21.583-07:002010-08-31T15:48:21.583-07:00ops! sorry about the triplicates-the system had a ...ops! sorry about the triplicates-the system had a glitch and kept telling me-too many words!eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-57642907610427038032010-08-31T15:46:37.049-07:002010-08-31T15:46:37.049-07:00Part 2:
Whereas, under the principals of...Part 2:<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, under the principals of democracy we the people of conscience demand this government to fulfill its promise and responsibilities to pursue and achieve nuclear disarmament,<br /><br /><br /> We the people of conscience therefore exercise the right of every citizen of this republic and this planet to peacefully resist the nuclear threat; attacking as it does every core concept of human rights.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> Whereas it is a basic human right to be free of threat or violence, and it is our duty to protect children and future generations we call on this government to use our tax dollars that are now being used to wage permanent war unequivocally demand they be used to pursue a nuclear free world and clean up all chemical and radioactive contamination.<br /><br /><br /><br />On August 16th, 14 nonviolent peace activists were arrested after blocking a Caterpillar truck on the site of a proposed WMD Facility in Kansas City, Missouri:<br /><br />http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1812&Itemid=236eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-65660540794569382292010-08-31T15:46:05.596-07:002010-08-31T15:46:05.596-07:00Whether by mistake or madness, this world could ir...Whether by mistake or madness, this world could irrevocably change in a few hours time.<br /><br />The Declaration of Independence from Nuclear Weapons at Oak Ridge Nuclear Weapons Center/Y-12, was read just prior to the arrests of 36 nonviolent anti-nuke activists:<br /><br /><br /> The Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776 indicted a government that engaged in barbaric conduct contrary to the laws of Humanity that included "works of death, destruction and tyranny unparalleled in the most barbaric ages" until the Age of Now!<br /><br /><br /> Current Law requires an end to all planning, preparation, production, threat, or use of nuclear weapons and we the people have gathered here today, July 4, 2010 at Y-12 to demand this Government adhere to the fundamental rules and principles of Humanitarian Law.<br /><br /><br /> These rules and principles require that civilians never be the object of attack. Consequently we must never use weapons that are incapable of distinguishing between civilians and military targets.<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, all W-76 and W-76-1 thermonuclear secondaries produced at Y-12 are designed and produced to unleash 100 KT of uncontrollable and indiscriminate heat, blast and radiation, six times more than the Hiroshima Bomb,<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, the International Court of Justice found that the destructive power of nuclear weapons cannot be contained in either space or time, and that the potential to destroy all civilization and the entire ecosystem of the planet,<br /><br /> Whereas, citizens have both rights and duties we the people of conscience must ensure future generations their right to life,<br /><br />TBCeileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-70076735471621990962010-08-31T15:45:26.246-07:002010-08-31T15:45:26.246-07:00Whether by mistake or madness, this world could ir...Whether by mistake or madness, this world could irrevocably change in a few hours time.<br /><br />The Declaration of Independence from Nuclear Weapons at Oak Ridge Nuclear Weapons Center/Y-12, was read just prior to the arrests of 36 nonviolent anti-nuke activists:<br /><br /><br /> The Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776 indicted a government that engaged in barbaric conduct contrary to the laws of Humanity that included "works of death, destruction and tyranny unparalleled in the most barbaric ages" until the Age of Now!<br /><br /><br /> Current Law requires an end to all planning, preparation, production, threat, or use of nuclear weapons and we the people have gathered here today, July 4, 2010 at Y-12 to demand this Government adhere to the fundamental rules and principles of Humanitarian Law.<br /><br /><br /> These rules and principles require that civilians never be the object of attack. Consequently we must never use weapons that are incapable of distinguishing between civilians and military targets.<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, all W-76 and W-76-1 thermonuclear secondaries produced at Y-12 are designed and produced to unleash 100 KT of uncontrollable and indiscriminate heat, blast and radiation, six times more than the Hiroshima Bomb,<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, the International Court of Justice found that the destructive power of nuclear weapons cannot be contained in either space or time, and that the potential to destroy all civilization and the entire ecosystem of the planet,<br /><br /> Whereas, citizens have both rights and duties we the people of conscience must ensure future generations their right to life,<br /><br /> Whereas, under the principals of democracy we the people of conscience demand this government to fulfill its promise and responsibilities to pursue and achieve nuclear disarmament,<br /><br /><br /> We the people of conscience therefore exercise the right of every citizen of this republic and this planet to peacefully resist the nuclear threat; attacking as it does every core concept of human rights.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> Whereas it is a basic human right to be free of threat or violence, and it is our duty to protect children and future generations we call on this government to use our tax dollars that are now being used to wage permanent war unequivocally demand they be used to pursue a nuclear free world and clean up all chemical and radioactive contamination.eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-20536845517100187602010-08-31T15:44:42.435-07:002010-08-31T15:44:42.435-07:00Whether by mistake or madness, this world could ir...Whether by mistake or madness, this world could irrevocably change in a few hours time.<br /><br />The Declaration of Independence from Nuclear Weapons at Oak Ridge Nuclear Weapons Center/Y-12, was read just prior to the arrests of 36 nonviolent anti-nuke activists:<br /><br /><br /> The Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776 indicted a government that engaged in barbaric conduct contrary to the laws of Humanity that included "works of death, destruction and tyranny unparalleled in the most barbaric ages" until the Age of Now!<br /><br /><br /> Current Law requires an end to all planning, preparation, production, threat, or use of nuclear weapons and we the people have gathered here today, July 4, 2010 at Y-12 to demand this Government adhere to the fundamental rules and principles of Humanitarian Law.<br /><br /><br /> These rules and principles require that civilians never be the object of attack. Consequently we must never use weapons that are incapable of distinguishing between civilians and military targets.<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, all W-76 and W-76-1 thermonuclear secondaries produced at Y-12 are designed and produced to unleash 100 KT of uncontrollable and indiscriminate heat, blast and radiation, six times more than the Hiroshima Bomb,<br /><br /><br /> Whereas, the International Court of Justice found that the destructive power of nuclear weapons cannot be contained in either space or time, and that the potential to destroy all civilization and the entire ecosystem of the planet,<br /><br /> Whereas, citizens have both rights and duties we the people of conscience must ensure future generations their right to life,<br /><br /> Whereas, under the principals of democracy we the people of conscience demand this government to fulfill its promise and responsibilities to pursue and achieve nuclear disarmament,<br /><br /><br /> We the people of conscience therefore exercise the right of every citizen of this republic and this planet to peacefully resist the nuclear threat; attacking as it does every core concept of human rights.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> Whereas it is a basic human right to be free of threat or violence, and it is our duty to protect children and future generations we call on this government to use our tax dollars that are now being used to wage permanent war unequivocally demand they be used to pursue a nuclear free world and clean up all chemical and radioactive contamination.<br /><br /><br /> On Monday morning, August 16th, 14 nonviolent peace activists were arrested after blocking a Caterpillar truck on the site of a proposed WMD Facility in Kansas City, Missouri:<br /><br />http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1812&Itemid=236eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-21743668134961222372010-08-31T15:01:46.648-07:002010-08-31T15:01:46.648-07:00You know, I had an Indian Professor write about 4 ...You know, I had an Indian Professor write about 4 years ago when it looked like Bush might do something against Pakistan.<br /><br /> He said if we went after Pakistan they would unite against us and any country who uses nuclear weapons first will feel the combined wrath of the world.<br /><br /> I think I told you they use to tell me the fear of mutual destruction was a deterrent to nuclear war now sometimes it seems to be the goal. We are living on the edge and with all the loose nukes and waste, who is going to push us over?jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-91903583654822030212010-08-31T13:46:12.390-07:002010-08-31T13:46:12.390-07:00Thanks for all the comments, and btw-I am more tha...Thanks for all the comments, and btw-I am more than lucky!<br /><br />"I am on a mission from God."-Jake Blues/John Belushi<br /><br /><br /><br />And we will never know how many times we have come closer than a pinch of salt to a nuclear catastrophe.<br /><br />From Ashkelon prison in 1987, Mordechai Vanunu wrote:<br /><br />"Any country, which manufactures and stocks nuclear weapons, is first of all endangering its own citizens. This is why the citizens must confront their government and warn it that it has no right to expose them to this danger. Because, in effect, the citizens are being held hostage by their own government, just as if they have been hijacked and deprived of their freedom and threatened…when governments develop nuclear weapons without the consent of their citizens - and this is true in most cases - they are violating the basic rights of their citizens, the basic right not to live under constant threat of annihilation…Is any government qualified and authorized to produce such weapons?"eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-9168568527233512392010-08-31T12:57:44.907-07:002010-08-31T12:57:44.907-07:00Excellent pictures Eileen. You take a good picture...Excellent pictures Eileen. You take a good picture and as I said, you are pretty lucky to go their and talk to him to let alone interview him. Good job!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-46366738119486298882010-08-31T12:50:48.010-07:002010-08-31T12:50:48.010-07:00Demeur I don't know if you have been to her si...Demeur I don't know if you have been to her site but check it out. She knows what she is talking about!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-6669377637014474032010-08-31T12:49:00.114-07:002010-08-31T12:49:00.114-07:00All right Eileen I just noticed this. I was on you...All right Eileen I just noticed this. I was on your site and joined you on twitter but anyway I noticed you are on blogger. On the toop left hand side of your page there is an orange Blogger icon with a magnifying glass next to it. Click on the icon. You will see your photo and profile on the left. just hit edit photo and you can insert a new one. Thanks for the link I'm going to look at it now.jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-4769022545093655042010-08-30T19:30:33.586-07:002010-08-30T19:30:33.586-07:00Interesting background Eileen. I was watching a do...Interesting background Eileen. I was watching a documentary about our tactics for defending against nukes back in the 60s. It was our plan to fire Nike missiles near incoming Russian planes. The nuclear blast would take out any planes but also kill us in the process. Gad! And I lived not to far from one of those Nike bases but didn't know the plan.Demeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01935263659097273535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-88259202975227480112010-08-30T18:06:44.239-07:002010-08-30T18:06:44.239-07:00'Presto chango' eludes me, but you can see...'Presto chango' eludes me, but you can see the pix and others @ <br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/36469283@N02/page5/eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-13720050405328979382010-08-30T15:35:59.926-07:002010-08-30T15:35:59.926-07:00Hi Eileen! If you're on Blogger it is presto c...Hi Eileen! If you're on Blogger it is presto chango. Just go to your dashboard next to your profile is the option to edit profile. I would like to see that picture if you do but not to worry.<br /><br /> It really bothers me that those with the power can do anything they want but nobody else can. Bush was the most blatant example of that. <br /><br /> I told all my sons when you have the power wield it authoritatively but kindly, keep yourself in check and they do.To me you know you are powerful so you keep it to yourself and just know you have it if needed.jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-55255668605846700712010-08-30T14:47:22.889-07:002010-08-30T14:47:22.889-07:00Hi again average patriot,
I get goggle alerts for ...Hi again average patriot,<br />I get goggle alerts for Vanunu, so i knew of the conversation. The US has been in violation of the NPT since the day we signed it.<br />See "US and Israeli Nuclear Deceptions" @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bslmk5jipGA <br /><br />PS: I do have a photo of me and V, and if i could figure out how to update my profile, i would change the photo.eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-26460869218697651082010-08-30T13:44:16.720-07:002010-08-30T13:44:16.720-07:00Hi Eileen! Every time I mention this I hope to hea...Hi Eileen! Every time I mention this I hope to hear from you. You are lucky and I always learn from you. Knowing we turned our heads when Israel broke the NPT I have a little problem with going after Iran but knowing the nature of that beast we have no choice. PS. too bad you didn't get a pic of you with Vanunu but yours is nice. Lucky you!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-16918195500926534632010-08-30T10:17:23.857-07:002010-08-30T10:17:23.857-07:00I was NOT a reporter in 2005, but I became one aft...I was NOT a reporter in 2005, but I became one after Vanunu told me:<br /><br />"President Kennedy tried to stop Israel from building atomic weapons. Kennedy insisted on an open internal inspection.<br /><br /><br />"When Johnson became president, he made an agreement with Israel that two senators would come every year to inspect. Before the senators would visit, the Israelis would build a wall to block the underground elevators and stairways. From 1963 to ’69, the senators came, but they never knew about the wall that hid the rest of the Dimona from them.<br /><br />"Nixon stopped the inspections and agreed to ignore the situation. As a result, Israel increased production. In 1986, there were over two hundred bombs. Today, they may have enough plutonium for ten bombs a year."<br /><br />PLEASE listen to Vanunu speak for himself in 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010 video and sign the international petition to FREE VANUNU NOW @The Vanunu Saga: 2005-2010<br />http://www.wearewideawake.org/<br /><br />PS: Vanunu shot the photo of me last time i saw him, June 2009.eileen fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01154089113764526041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-63829614766878399742010-08-30T08:53:36.181-07:002010-08-30T08:53:36.181-07:00Yeah you can see nothing but war period. We use to...Yeah you can see nothing but war period. We use to have a policy of not giving the middle east advanced weapons so as not to add fuel to the fire but as you know, that changed under Bush and continues with Obama.<br /><br /> I keep hoping we can keep it non nuclear because someone has to be able to live there or so we think.<br /><br /> I don't know if you know my friend Jerome Grossman "the relentless liberal" who you can Google but he is 93 now and the father of our our nuclear non proliferation movement.<br /><br /> He and his foundations has been behind every important liberal cause for the last 65 years including the Vietnam moratorium.<br /><br /> Anyway he still lectures daily and is active in speaking against nuclear proliferation. I agree more with his son but I told Jerome when I worked with nukes in the military we were told they were a deterrent due to mutual destruction. Sometimes today I think mutual destruction is the goal.jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-42152725120338455872010-08-30T07:34:51.386-07:002010-08-30T07:34:51.386-07:00Considering there hasn't been peace in the mid...Considering there hasn't been peace in the middle east for some 2000 years I'd say your bet is safe. Real question is would any of these parties use nukes? If so then things would get dicey.<br />Looking at your maps of Palistine from past and present it's easy to see Palistine's position. When you have a greedy nextdoor neighbor that keeps taking your land and bullying you there's no choice. When you have a farm and the neighbor builds a large steel wall through the middle you wouldn't be too happy about that either.Demeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01935263659097273535noreply@blogger.com