tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post3266697415438068353..comments2024-01-19T07:30:41.591-08:00Comments on An Average American Patriot: Corporate welfare! Farm subsidies Corporate Welfare, Dead Farmers get Billions, Corporations get millions! A Veto I agree with!jmsjoinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-25858367180844930402009-03-27T16:47:00.000-07:002009-03-27T16:47:00.000-07:00Obbop Wow where have you been? Welcome! Yes we ...Obbop <BR/> Wow where have you been? Welcome! Yes we are in serious trouble but I will be okay where many will not be as they do not know how to survive!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-67120726037364558072009-03-26T21:53:00.000-07:002009-03-26T21:53:00.000-07:00The elite's government FEARS you!!!!!!Their fear i...The elite's government FEARS you!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>Their fear is manifested in the laws they pass. Here is a law banning what MANY of the Founders wrote is a RIGHT of citizens when a government no longer represents them:<BR/><BR/>Section 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government<BR/><BR/>Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or<BR/>teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of<BR/>overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or<BR/>the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession<BR/>thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by<BR/>force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any<BR/>such government; or<BR/>Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any<BR/>such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates,<BR/>sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed<BR/>matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity,<BR/>desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any<BR/>government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts<BR/>to do so; or<BR/>Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society,<BR/>group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the<BR/>overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or<BR/>violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any<BR/>such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes<BR/>thereof -<BR/>Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than<BR/>twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by<BR/>the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five<BR/>years next following his conviction.<BR/>If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in<BR/>this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned<BR/>not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for<BR/>employment by the United States or any department or agency<BR/>thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.<BR/>As used in this section, the terms ''organizes'' and<BR/>''organize'', with respect to any society, group, or assembly of<BR/>persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new<BR/>units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes,<BR/>and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The federal government is allowing MILLIONS of illegals to invade our country. Corporate America is becoming increasingly more powerful and influential. Yet, according to the government of for and by the elites YOU, a citizen, have to accept whatever the government does with NO recourse other than voting...... and there is sufficient proof that shows to me voting is worthless since the entrenched power structure ensures that the emplaced elite class can not be removed.<BR/><BR/>The Founders specifically wrote of the people's right to abolish a government when it no longer represents them.<BR/><BR/>Tyranny is upon is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>obbop.wordpress.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-52591085656429228702008-05-02T05:45:00.000-07:002008-05-02T05:45:00.000-07:00You're funny Tom! He doesn't know how to read nor ...You're funny Tom! He doesn't know how to read nor does he have to. He has people for that.jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-49244322170096378912008-05-01T12:57:00.000-07:002008-05-01T12:57:00.000-07:00Bush? Read the bill?!!? He's still struggling wi...Bush? Read the bill?!!? He's still struggling with <EM>My pet Goat</EM>!TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-71394181805948597342008-04-30T13:51:00.000-07:002008-04-30T13:51:00.000-07:00Wease What the Hell? The Implications of the Sch...Wease What the Hell?<BR/> The Implications of the Schmeiser Decision<BR/>E. Ann Clark, Plant Agriculture, <BR/>University of Guelph, Guelph, ON <BR/>(eaclark@uoguelph.ca)<BR/><BR/>The Crime of Percy Schmeiser<BR/><BR/>Let us first be clear what Saskatchewan farmer Percy Schmeiser was found guilty of.<BR/><BR/>He was found guilty of a) having Monsanto genetics on his land, and b) not advising Monsanto to come and fetch it.<BR/><BR/>He was not found guilty of brownbagging - obtaining the seed fraudulently. Indeed, all such allegations were dropped at the actual hearing, due to lack of evidence.<BR/><BR/>Regardless, in his 29 March 2001 decision ( http://www.fct-cf.gc.ca ;click on decisions), Judge W. Andrew MacKay made it clear that how it got there didn't matter anyway. The guilt was the same. Specifically, "Yet the source of the Roundup resistant canola...is really not significant for the resolution of the issue of infringement..."<BR/><BR/>It also didn’t matter that Schmeiser did not benefit - at all - from the RR seed. In order to derive any economic benefit from growing RR seed, you’d either have to<BR/><BR/>< sell it as seed, or<BR/>< spray Roundup.<BR/><BR/>He did neither. He sold the crop as grain - not as seed, and he didn’t spray Roundup. He acknowledges spraying Roundup around his telephone poles - a standard practice - which first alerted him in 1997 to the contamination in his field because some of the plants didn’t die. Then, in typical farmer fashion, he got out his sprayer and made a couple of passes leading away from the road to see how far the contamination reached - total sprayed area was 3 ac out of the hundreds of acres sown in 1997. None of these points are disputed. No one - including Monsanto - argued that Schmeiser actually benefited - or even intended to benefit1 - from growing a crop contaminated with RR plants. But it didn’t matter. He was guilty nonetheless, and fined $15/ac x 1030 ac, plus the value of his crop $105,000, plus $25,000 for punitive and exemplary damages.<BR/><BR/>He also lost the improved genetics resulting from his lifelong practice of saving his own seed to produce his own tailor-made variety of canola, as the crop was confiscated.<BR/><BR/>The harm that has been done to Percy and Louise Schmeiser, now in their 70's, is grievous. But of even greater concern is how this incomprehensible decision will affect all western Canadian farmers - regardless of whether they even grow canola, let alone GM canola.<BR/><BR/>The Problem(s) with Canola<BR/><BR/>Canola is a relatively primitive crop, and as such, retains many of the characteristics of a wild species. Unlike corn and wheat, which have been domesticated by over 10,000 generations of breeding,<BR/><BR/>< canola pods mature unevenly, obliging farmers to cut and place the crop in windrows to allow the green seed to dry prior to combining<BR/>< the dry pods also shatter upon maturity, dropping a fraction of the mature seed to the ground<BR/>< the seed retains dormancy, meaning that particularly under the reduced or no-till conditions favored in the prairies, the seed can remain dormant for 6-10 years, depending on the type of cultivar - Polish or Argentine, and<BR/>< the seed can germinate anytime in the season - not just in the spring prior to seeding<BR/><BR/>Further, because the seed is very small, round, and smooth, it travels readily in the wind. It is not uncommon for windrowed canola to be picked up and blown over adjoining fields. Seed is known to be dispersed by transport trucks in transit - either blown out the top if uncovered or falling off the exterior if not filled tidily. Schmeiser’s contaminated fields are to the east side of a major haul road leading to Bruno, Saskatchewan, and the prevailing wind direction is west to east. The initial samples used by Monsanto to charge Schmeiser were actually taken from the roadside - not the sown fields.<BR/><BR/>Although canola is primarily a selfing species, outcrossing is in the range of 20-30%, and canola pollen can move long distances, several km at least, primarily via insect pollinators. The required isolation distance for hybrid canola seed is 800 m. Who is it that has to absorb the cost of installing an 800 m buffer between GM and non-GM crops on neighboring farms? Pollen has always moved - it did not start with genetic modification. But this is the first time we’ve called it genetic pollution, because the genes that move are proprietary.2<BR/><BR/>To put these numbers into perspective, Alberta Agriculture has calculated that even at 0.2% outcrossing (with a neighbor’s RR canola, for example), a crop yielding 25 bu ac-1 with 3% shattering losses would deposit 10,000 outcrossed seeds ac-1 or 4 outcrossed seeds per m2 (http://www.agric.gov.ab.ca/crops/canola/outcrossing.html). And that is just the genetic pollution from a single season. The lengthy dormancy interval of canola allows the soil seed bank of contaminated seed to accumulate with each successive year’s additions.<BR/><BR/>Land can be contaminated with proprietary seed in other ways. If you intentionally planted RR canola [or any other herbicide tolerant (HT) canola], shattered RR seed would contaminate your soil next year anyway, and the next, and the next. Emergence of ‘volunteer’ canola in subsequent crops is nothing new in western Canada - but what is new is that the volunteer plants bear proprietary genes and are tolerant to one or more common herbicides.<BR/><BR/>You can also bring RR canola into your land inadvertently, as an unavoidable contaminant in your sown crop. Cross contamination of seed crops with GM seed is now so pervasive that seed companies will no longer guarantee "100% GM-free" even in the seed they sell to farmers, for any field crop that has been subject to genetic modification.<BR/><BR/>In the aggregate, these arguments explain the widespread occurrence of RR canola growing in places where it was never sown, and even where no canola has been sown, in western Canada.<BR/><BR/>The impossibility of reproductive isolation - both on-farm and post harvest - is nowhere better illustrated than recent occurrence of contamination within Monsanto’s own RR ‘Quest’ canola. Seed with an unapproved RR gene was found to contaminate bags carrying seed with the approved RR gene, obliging the urgent recall of thousands of bags of seed, some of which was already on-farm and being sown. This is just the latest example of cross contamination within the seed trade itself, of which StarLink contamination in the corn to be sown in 2001 is perhaps the best known example.<BR/><BR/>How then can farmers be held accountable for something which the seed trade itself cannot do?<BR/><BR/>Well, they can’t, and even Monsanto knows it. So, Monsanto’s position - which the judge inexplicably accepted - is that all the farmer has to do is call them up and they’ll come out and deal with it. No matter how the proprietary genes got there, the judge held that the farmer is accountable for it, and they are obliged to inform Monsanto about it - or risk the fate of Schmeiser.<A HREF="http://www.percyschmeiser.com/crime.htm" REL="nofollow">schmeiser vs Monsanto</A>jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-18048266135739060052008-04-30T10:36:00.000-07:002008-04-30T10:36:00.000-07:00Wease You're funny! I haven't followed Perry Scme...Wease<BR/> You're funny! I haven't followed Perry Scmeiser but my blood is boiling already. You know though that I will finish what I am doing and look it up. I can just imagine and I am pissed already. I'll get back to you after I research it. Thanks!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-12065395873908408512008-04-30T10:31:00.000-07:002008-04-30T10:31:00.000-07:00torrence He is sickening. I am so sick of his cr...torrence<BR/> He is sickening. I am so sick of his crap. he friggen blames everyone but himself for everything he has done here and around the world. I am preparing something on that right now. <BR/> As we and the world suffer the consequences of his lack of knowledge and concern you can bet he looks into nothing and could care less about the consequences as he lies and tells people he does. It is sick but some still believe the scum!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-44547047114925061832008-04-30T09:43:00.000-07:002008-04-30T09:43:00.000-07:00Jim,. have you followed the case of Percy Schmeise...Jim,. have you followed the case of Percy Schmeiser?<BR/><BR/>If you haven't and your blood pressure is too low, look him up.Weaseldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657976442272800800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-84045032190462827392008-04-30T08:04:00.000-07:002008-04-30T08:04:00.000-07:00AND GWB had the gumption to talk about the Farm Bi...AND GWB had the gumption to talk about the Farm Bill as if he was astute or even read the document LOLAll-Mi-T [Thought Crime] Rawdawgbuffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08843040863123899426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-13367979232307896482008-04-29T13:58:00.000-07:002008-04-29T13:58:00.000-07:00The bird flu crap certainly sounds foul (ha) now t...The bird flu crap certainly sounds foul (ha) now that you tell me all this stuff. But seeing that it was Asia i tended to believe. I am sick of the friggen lying. Of of life today is a friggen set up for a hidden agenda and personal gain. It is disgusting! Boy are we screwed!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-31927041010062830042008-04-29T12:32:00.000-07:002008-04-29T12:32:00.000-07:00Yeah, the bird flu story changes when you dig deep...Yeah, the bird flu story changes when you dig deeper.<BR/><BR/>The factory farms pushed for the extermination of backyard flocks, for fear that their birds would be wiped out. In many cases, they lost their monocultured birds anyway. After all they couldn't wipe out all of the wild birds, that were the real vector for the flu.<BR/><BR/>All they needed was to find one sick bird, as justification to take out all of the fowl in a city.<BR/><BR/>It all sounded really scary didn't? The footage of thousands of birds being killed and cremated.<BR/><BR/>I worried that would happen in the US. It would be a stupid move to wipe out the genetic diversity in all of the breeds we have, in order to save a few mono-genetic lines with limited immune capacity.Weaseldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657976442272800800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-46506694480894131722008-04-29T11:55:00.000-07:002008-04-29T11:55:00.000-07:00tom I like your cats by the way. As for the subs...tom<BR/> I like your cats by the way. As for the subsidies, everyone i knew period has their farm. The small family farms have for the most part gone under. <BR/> Willie Nelson is their only help. Subsidies only help the big and wealthy farmers. You probably read the links.<BR/> The more I learn about this Medicare, McCain, Bush, MSM, what is really happening here and around the world, the more disgruntled I get!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-4623350984116535272008-04-29T11:41:00.000-07:002008-04-29T11:41:00.000-07:00The best solution here is to limit subsidies to fa...The best solution here is to limit subsidies to family-owned farms under a certain size. The left (or rather those on the left whose pockets aren't stuffed with agribusiness cash) sign on to this every five years only because US food aid to poor countries is always tied to the farm bill. That's linkage we need to lose.TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-76653823890597149532008-04-29T10:51:00.000-07:002008-04-29T10:51:00.000-07:00Knowing chickens as I do I have to laugh at trying...Knowing chickens as I do I have to laugh at trying to keep a record of them all. what the hell? We lost 15,000 once to smothering!What do you record every time you kill one to eat? I never thought about that with the bird flu.<BR/> I'm naive I guess. They had me convinced in Asia at least that the problem was because of all the small unregulated farms. I'm sick of this crap.<BR/> I have to laugh about this volluntary participation. That is friggen worthless. I just found out this morning that Participation by lending companies to help homeowners in danger of foreclosure was volluntary too.<BR/> Of course no vollunteers no help. Instead they bail out the banks and give a $7,000 credit to those buying the houses. I am sick and friggen tired of the facade of concern while screwing you. As you know, we're on our own!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15216381.post-46540013332190312008-04-29T09:47:00.000-07:002008-04-29T09:47:00.000-07:00Big Agriculture is trying hard to eliminate all fo...Big Agriculture is trying hard to eliminate all forms of competition.<BR/><BR/>We nearly had a system in place that would require that all chickens be micro-chipped and regular reports filed on where they were.<BR/><BR/>Each discrete location was to get a code. If you chicken hopped a fence into a neighbor's yard, you had to file a report detailing the reason for transport to and from your neighbors.<BR/><BR/>This legislation would of course raise the costs to a prohibitive level for small producers. Microchipping each chicken and individually tracking them would add several dollars at least to the cost of the birds. Not counting scanners and computers to ID the birds with. It could easily double the cost of each bird and make them too expensive for small producers to sell at a profit.<BR/><BR/>Of course, under the proposed rule, large producers like Tyson foods (one of the sponsors) would be exempted from microchipping their birds.<BR/><BR/>In other countries, the fear of bird flu has been used as an excuse to wipe many thousands of backyard flocks. While the factory farms are exempted from the slaughter, unless bird flu has taken hold and the losses are so high that they can't be hidden.<BR/><BR/>Ironically, in the third world, very few cases of birds in backyard flocks have been identified. Presumably, the fact that backyard flocks are more genetically diverse, gives them an advantage in fighting off the virus as compared to factory farms where the birds are so inbred, they are effectively clones.<BR/><BR/>In fact all of the outbreaks of bird flu in poultry have occurred in factory farms. In such an environment the virus is able to quickly evolve to evade the identical immune systems, in the many thousands of mono-genetically bred birds in these facilities.<BR/><BR/>Out of protest, the microchip idea was eventually implemented as a voluntary program with few participants. For now I think it's been shelved. One of the problems that came up, was funding. Farmers were asking their congressmen to have the government pay for the micro-chipping. The plan was to have one veterinarian in each state oversee all of the backyard flocks and insure compliance and to micro-chip the birds.<BR/><BR/>When I found out about that part I had to laugh, thinking of one veterinarian in Texas and one in California keeping up with all of those records. I read in a paper a while back that Los Angeles alone has 50,000 chickens roaming in yards. Imagine the paperwork entailed in tracking them as they roam from yard to yard during the day!Weaseldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657976442272800800noreply@blogger.com